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11/20/12 4:47 P

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Thanks for the information and link Fit_Artist. I will research this more. Primal Fuel is made with whey protein isolates as well. I am glad I posted this, I have never heard this. emoticon

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11/18/12 4:22 P

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I don't use whey isolate. I will have whey concentrate though...

Some info on "isolates"
"Important Points about High-Quality Whey There's no shortage of whey products on the market, but unfortunately most of them will NOT give you the health benefits associated with high-quality whey. First of all you want to use a whey protein concentrate, NOT isolate. All whey protein isolates are devoid of nutritional co-factors including alkalizing minerals, naturally occurring vitamins, and lipids, which are lost in the processing. This renders them deficient and overly acidifying. Unlike whole protein food concentrates, which do not acidify your body due to their alkalinizing minerals, whey protein isolates are over acidifying. I would strongly avoid ALL whey protein isolates just as you would avoid trans fats as they contain putrid proteins that some experts believe to be worse than trans fat. If chronically consumed in large amounts (such as with bodybuilders or athletes) without alkalizing foods, it can acidify your body and over time may lead to metabolic acidosis with consequences that include wasting of muscle and bone tissues, total metabolic shut down, and increased vulnerability to degenerative disease. So if you want to use whey protein, PLEASE do not use an inferior whey isolate. Look for a high-quality concentrate instead. These are the factors you need to look for in order to ensure you're buying a high-quality product:"


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11/18/12 11:08 A

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I'm no expert, but this is the only whey protien powder I've tried and I like it. It has minimal additives and is sweetened w/stevia.

Hammer Whey (chocolate, vanilla, chai and unflavored). I'm partial to the vanilla flavor and mix it w/coconut milk and fruit. If I want chocolate, I add plain cocoa powder. YUM!

Calories: 80
Total Fat: 0.3g
Cholesterol: 5mg
Total Carbohydrate: 1g
Sugars: 1g
Protien: 18g
Calcium: 19mg
Iron: 414mcg


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11/17/12 10:20 P

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Following the primal diet allows the use of supplementation with whey protein if desired. Mark Sisson offers a supplement called "Primal Fuel", a whey isolate protein powder with a balance of good fat, low carbs and fiber. However, the price tag on this supplement is quite high at a $79.00 per month.

In light of this I have come up with a substitute that I think is comparable to the "Primal Fuel.

PRIMAL FUEL (Mark Sisson) (Flavors available: Chocolate and Vanilla
Serving size: (44 grams) 2 scoops

Calories: 190
Total Fat: 10gm
Protein: 20 gm
Carbs: 11 gm
Fiber: 5 gm
Potassium: 165 mg
Sodium: 375 mg

For complete list of the Primal Fuel ingredients click this link:


Gold Standard Whey Protein (... about 19 flavors)

Serving size: (various sizes) - 3.3lbs = 45 servings @ 1 scoop
Calories: 130
Total Fat: 2 gm
Protein: 24 gm
Carbs: 4 gm
Fiber: 0 gm
Potassium: 0
Sodium: 210 mg

Click here for the complete ingredient list for Gold Standard Whey Protein:

My "version/substitute" of Primal Fuel:

Using Gold Standard Whey protein "Mocha Cappuccino" flavor, using 1 Scoop protein powder:

193....... Calories
24 gms:.. Protein powder: 1 scoop
7 fat: ....Coconut oil: 1/2 TBSP
5.............Fiber 1 TBSP. (See NOTE)
4 gm .......Carbs

OTHER: Omega 3 (alpha-linolenic acid ALA), 14%

COMPARE: macros:

PRIMAL FUEL.................. My PRIMAL FUEL:
Cal: 190............................Cal. 193
Fat: 10 gms .....................Fat: 7 gms
Carbs 11 gms....................Carbs: 4 gms
Fiber: 5 gms.....................Fiber: 5 gms
Potassium: 165 mg...........Potassium: 0
Sodium: 375 mg...............Sodium: 210 mg

NOTE: "The fiber used in Mark's supplement is "inulin"... I used: Spectrum Essentials Flax Fiber Prebiotic Dietary Supplement

PRIMAL FUEL: $79.00/(44 gms) 30 servings using 2 scoops

GOLD STANDARD WHEY ISOLATE: $38.99 (3.3lbs) 45 servings using 1 scoop

- Coconut oil: Barleans : 13.99, 32 servings @ 1 TBLSP - OR - 64 servings @ 1/2 TBLSP

- Fiber: Spectrum Essentials ... 13.99, 30 servings @ 1 TBLSP
TOTAL: $66.97
... just a suggestion, this is how I am supplementing with whey protein. If you have any other suggestions please post them. emoticon

Edited by: JAZZID at: 11/20/2012 (16:45)

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