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TOPIC:   Bold Faced Lies - Grain Foundation 


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-HEALTHYAMY
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8/7/12 6:00 A

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Interesting, I went to the six servings a day blog. Lots of grain recipes... and propaganda.


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SWIFTSEATURTLE
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8/6/12 10:05 A

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Moving this back to the top.



PAGAPEACH
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11/1/11 8:04 A

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I wonder who will be the one to go after the corn changers? This again is probably just as big of a gmo as wheat.



SWIFTSEATURTLE
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10/31/11 11:37 P

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On this I'm not confused. Thanks for going over it. Allan's getting used to saying no to bread and starches.

I was confused about something else I read somewhere, that I can't find tonight.

The toast experiment would be interesting to do.



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10/31/11 11:19 P

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Well try not to get lost in the smoke screen that the grain foundation is putting up. In the grain foundation blog one of the points that their expert brings up to scoff at Wheat Belly is that the glycemic index (load - response- whatever way you want to measure it) is something that varies from individual to individual and therefore "it's just another number of no particular importance". This is in response to Davis' claim that eating two slices of "healthy whole grain" bread will cause a greater response than a Snickers bar would. Well the fact that everyone is different is true, but the fact that it is of no consequence is false.
Davis is of course trying to make the point that bread - even whole grain bread will raise your blood sugar higher than you might expect. And if it's true that it's higher than a Snickers bar that can't be very healthy, can it?
You could conduct your own study. You and or Allan eat two slices of whole wheat bread. To be fair I would make it buttered toast - not a sandwich or anything else to throw it off. Test glucose level afterwards. Yours will be different from Allan's of course. If you do this on a different day/time you will get different results. So the grain foundation says this means it's not relevant? It's relevant if your glucose spikes - or if his does.
If you really want to test the difference you could do the Snicker bar thing at a different time. It's important that it is a Snicker's bar though. Not to discredit Davis but that particular candy bar has a good ratio of nuts in it and the nuts slow down the glycemic impact... so it's a little bit of stacking the deck as it were. A different candy bar - especially a cookie/candy bar might equal the bread - but he's trying to impress people with the fact that grain ain't as healthy as it's cracked up to be and this comparison is compelling... hence the grain foundations need to say "oh that's not important - pay no attention to the man behind the curtain".
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SWIFTSEATURTLE
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10/31/11 10:05 P

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I accidentally overlooked this post, but definitely want to read the link. I have a feeling I'm going to be confused! My book has another viewpoint on glycemic load, and I wonder if it's another point of view altogether.

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10/28/11 1:15 P

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That was interesting. Wonder if they were so up in arms when the Paleo thing came out to? Hope Dr. D has body guards!



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10/28/11 12:49 P

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Recently I saw a post on the Wheat Belly blog that referred a blog SixServings.org. The post under attack was about one of their "experts" debunking what was in Dr. Davis' book and calling it a "fad diet". There were 26 comments at the point I looked at it - all of them anti-grain and telling the authors that we all aren't that stupid.

After reading that post my curiosity was up and I started reading other posts. I encourage you all to take a look. It's actually entertaining it's such a crock of b.s. It would be funny if there weren't a lot of people out there - and even (government subsidized) well respected "authorities on nutrition who are still buying and selling this as truth with a capitol T.

They are so bold as to say that "one size does not fit all" with regard to the glycemic index and that this is "just a number" of no particular consequence (!?!!)

Take a look for yourself
www.sixservings.org/

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