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3/17/13 7:08 A

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I am just catching up and am interested in all the energy and thought going into making this team and maintenance more effective. This is already a great place because so many members are active in it. Anything that stream lines the info visually and in a concentrated way will be a great start. I love the Big Page of links.

I do subscribe to the Motivation and Consistency coaching to help me "check in" to routine and a challenge each day. I find that showing up every day is really key to my maintenance consistency.

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3/16/13 3:23 P

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I'm finally reading all these ideas. Something I really like about SparkCoach is that it is is focused. I didn't used to think I had ADHD until my daughter was diagnosed with ADHD Inattentive type and as I read up on it, I realized I probably have had this all along. So I guess that's kind of what I'm trying to do with the Maintenance FANS thread -- a maintenance coaching group, but weekly instead of daily. We'll see how it goes. I read an article the other day that peer contact may not be as effective as I might hope. But this was in a telephone model, comparing peer support to professional support. And when you get support here, you get dozens of ideas, not just one person's 2 cents.

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3/15/13 9:05 A

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In the end we created a Big Page of Links that I think may help fill the holes.
tinyurl.com/maintenance-links

Edited by: 4A-HEALTHY-BMI at: 3/15/2013 (09:06)
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1/2/13 2:21 P

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Bumping this topic up in case anyone has more comments...

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8/22/12 8:07 A

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GREAT suggestions. I love these ideas!

My name's Tina. I lost more than 90 pounds between March 2010 and March 2012 and have been keeping if off ever since.

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8/22/12 8:00 A

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All the ideas proposed sound great, but I keep thinking about the structure in B. Piggy-backing on some of Tina's suggestions, I'd propose maintenance stages something like this:

1 - I've Reached my Goal. This section could have subsections on the need to reward oneself and on soul-searching (is this *really* my goal, or do I want to keep losing?)

2 - Transitioning. Subsections may include detailed steps to change one's Spark page to reflect maintenance, information (or links to articles) on experimenting with calories, and advice on avoiding the letdown that frequently comes after the long, sustained effort.

3 - The First Year. This gets at Tina's "now what?" question. Subsections on planning (a la Periwinkle), channeling weight-loss momentum and goal-setting techniques into other areas (my main one is decluttering), creating a new vision collage (if others are like me, the initial one is so familiar it has lost some motivational punch).

4 - One Year and Beyond. Since I'm not there, I don't know what subsections to propose.

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8/22/12 12:38 A

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Here were some of my thoughts.

Nell is exactly right that we don't want to lose focus on supporting each other in maintenance. That's one reason I thought creating a "newbies - ask questions here" thread over in the Introduce Yourself forum might be useful. That thread could be more for what she describes as "help," while the "maintaining or backsliding" thread and much of the rest of the site could still function to provide support. There will sometimes be a little overlap, of course. And I 100% agree we don't want to abandon our maintainers!

The rest of these are about how I'd structure a Lifestyles Center

1) Have a whole section just about the transition phase, kind of like the material I put on the special thread for newbies in the Introduce Yourself forum.

2) Break down the ongoing maintenance into "HOW" vs "WHY" sections (exercise/fitness/monitoring versus managing your psychology)

3) Update the featured member stories. Require these things in order to feature someone:
A - Spark Page must exist and be public
B - Member must have been active on the site within the past year

4) Make sure that the articles listed don’t contradict each other.
e.g. "Prevent Weight Gain with Daily Weigh-Ins", "4 Signs It's Time to Step Off the Scale" Is it any wonder people are confused about how to maintain?

5) Include helpful articles about maintenance from the Daily Spark.

6) Include a link to the "Weight Maintenance" articles from here: www.sparkpeople.com/resource/wellnes
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articles_list.asp?iSel=42

These articles need to be updated.
A - include links to the original research articles or a citation
B - Remove language that says the original research papers are “recent,” because in most cases they are not. (They were when the original post was written, but that was up to 5 years ago.)
C - Articles should link back to the Maintenance Lifestyles Center so people can find more information about maintenance after reading them.

7) Include links to "popular blog posts" that relate to maintenance

Edited by: 4A-HEALTHY-BMI at: 8/22/2012 (01:10)
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8/21/12 7:01 P

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I like the C option. I just read one of the maintenance articles listed and really liked it. I've been maintaining over 5 years and still can learn more.

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8/21/12 3:05 P

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I like A or C better than B, just because the groupings seem to help find info.

But I'm new here, and so I'm just getting used to the resources that have been put together. (And I have to say I'm TOTALLY impressed by the involvement of the team members and the direction of the team leader! Rock stars!)

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8/21/12 11:47 A

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That's a great point, NELLJONES. How do you see the difference between what we can provide here on the team thread, which would continue to be very dynamic, and what could be provided in the Lifestyle Center, which would be a bit more static (though it would be nice if it were updated from time to time!)? I think the team thread is best for both support and help while the Lifestyle page is probably better for help and may help the 'lurkers' out there who need help but are not willing to ask for it in a discussion thread. What do you think?

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8/21/12 10:48 A

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I agree about cluttered website pages. If I am going to do more than just chat on threads, I am usually looking for something specific rather than browsing, so for that I liked A best.

I came to Spark having been at goal for a very long time. I was looking more for support rather than help, and the two are very different. Support is when I need people to pat me on the back, tell me things I already know but need to hear again. Help is if I have a real question. It's hard to differentiate, my husband still doesn't know the difference.

As long as we are here and active (and growing!) it will not only work out, but change over time. We have to make sure that the newcomers who need real help don't fade out the support required by longtimers. That's how you lose them, and become a group of newcomers.

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8/21/12 8:39 A

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I agree. If I see clutter on a webpage, it makes me feel overwhelmed. I would like to see more about ways to maintaining, how to overcome the issues of maintaining, and maybe hearing about others that struggle with it. Also, an recipe box of sorts might be nice so we can go to and pursue them like a cookbook. I have trouble doing that with SP recipes site.

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8/21/12 8:36 A

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My initial impressions about the current lifestyle center are:

1) Rather than focusing on maintainance, much of it seems to rehash the mesages you see in the weight loss pages.

2) Its advice is far too general and there aren't many specific suggestions/strategies maintainers can use.

3) A lot of the information is outdated. What's more demoralizing than clicking on a Success Story only to find out that person is no longer active here on SparkPeople.com? For all we know that person has regained all of their weight!

Here are some of the specific changes I'd like to see:

- A 'Transitioning to Maintenance' section that encourages people to start thinking about maintenance when they enter the last portion, maybe 10%, of their weight loss phase. This section could include links to articles and discussions about what the shift to maintenance means both in terms of habits and the mental shift.

- An 'I've Reached my Goal! Now What?' section with more specific information about the habits of successful maintainers and their strategies. For example, we talk a lot about gradually increasing calories once a person begins the maintenance process. How about links to articles or discussions that outline a specific plan to do that? I think the 'Maintaining a Healthy Weight' articles also give short shrift to tracking as a very useful maintenance tool. I've personally found tracking to be an indispensable tool in helping me to analyze my eating and exercise plans and make adjustments according to the results I want to see. Also, NANCYANNE55 had an interesting article on her blog recently about planning for splurge meals with a very specific plan for how she does that without going totally off the rails. I'd be interested in seeing more things like this featured in the lifestyle center:

itallmakesadifference.blogspot.it/

-I think a glaring ommission is the lack of a 'Help! I'm Backsliding!' section. This could include links to articles and discussions about what maintainers can do to get back on track after a slip up.

-I'd take the 'Keeping It Off: Member Stories' section and move it over to the top right of the page (do we really need a poll there?) and make sure the people profiled here are active on SparkPeople.com. These could be updated periodically and old stories could be archived, with a link at the bottom that people could click on to view them.

-In the 'Suggested SparkTeams' section, our team has the most members and is by far the most active (the '30-40 Something Maintainers' team is actually INACTIVE) yet it's listed last. Again, I would be very demoralized to click on a link here only to find an inactive team. Our team should be listed first and inactive teams should be removed.

-All that glorious space in the bottom, right corner could be filled with links to 'Hot Discussions about Maintenance,' which would include recent discussion threads on our board. This would need to be updated regularly so the content would be fresh.

-The 'Stay Motivated' and 'In the News' sections don't seem very useful to me at all in their present format. I'd like to see more links to maintenance-specific challenges in the 'Stay Motivated' section and current articles about maintenance from a range of sources in the 'In the News' section.

I lifted some of the next part about how the page could look from my initial message but am reposting it here to consolidate everything:

-Stylistically, I'd probably want a teaser to an introductory article at the top of the page that viewers could click on to read the entire thing. This article could explain the different features on the page so people would know exactly where to go to get what they need.

-There could then be a section dedicated to the different areas I mentioned above--'Transitioning to Maintenance,' 'I've Reached My Goal! Now What?,' 'Help! I'm Backsliding!,' 'Staying Motivated' and 'In the News.'

-Then a section with a link to a specific program maintainers can follow with 'Stages' like B from 4A-HEALTHY-BMI's original post.

-The 'Success Stories', 'Suggested SparkTeams' and 'Hot Discussions about Maintenance' would run along the right side of the page.

-Photographs would be nice so the page doesn't just look like one big set of links. Thumbnail-sized shots of featured success stories and other stock photos connected to the ideas of the other sections would be nice to see.

My name's Tina. I lost more than 90 pounds between March 2010 and March 2012 and have been keeping if off ever since.

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8/21/12 7:11 A

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Awesome, thanks for clarifying!

And what about the content in A?

What things would you keep? What would you remove? What new things would you add?

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8/21/12 7:02 A

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I went back and edited my post with A, B and C. Hope that's clearer now!
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8/21/12 6:57 A

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Thanks for getting this discussion started!

I linked to three different pages - let's call them "A", "B", and "C" - when you say the "first" page and the "second" page, do those correspond to the A and B? Or B and C?

(I'll go back and label them in the original message)

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8/21/12 6:05 A

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Visually, I think my ideal would actually be some sort of combination of B and C but with less clutter. I'm sure it's just a personal preference, but seeing a series of links and 100 different sections sometimes makes my head spin.

I think some people like the idea of having everything planned out for them, which is where B would be useful, while others might just want extra support in certain areas like C. Visually, B is much more appealing, so I'd probably want that format front and center with the links to the other resources off to the side or on the bottom in neatly organized sections and maybe a few pictures.

I'd probably want a teaser to an introductory article at the top of the page that viewers could click on to read the entire thing. This article could explain the different features on the page so people would know exactly where to go to get what they need.

Edited by: TINAJANE76 at: 8/21/2012 (07:01)
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8/20/12 8:54 P

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Hi guys,

I'm kind of dissatisfied with the jumbled team links, and thinking about ways to organize resources for us, both from the perspective of folks transitioning into maintenance and also people trying to continue maintenance into perpetuity.

I'm starting with the "Maintaining Your New Weight" Lifestyle Center as an example.

A: www.sparkpeople.com/resource/lifesty
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If you could design a page with the same sorts of aims (organize information and resources helpful to aspiring maintainers and continuing maintainers), how would you do it differently from what is there?

What things would you keep? What would you remove? What new things would you add?

Would you rather see a whole program, like this?

B: www.sparkpeople.com/resource/
sparkdiet
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Or how about a page more like this?

C: www.sparkpeople.com/resource/
health-an
d-wellness.asp


And if you did want to see something like those, how would you gear them toward planning for and carrying out maintenance?

I love asking you guys about things like this, because you always come up with awesome ideas that I wouldn't even have thought of!

Edited by: 4A-HEALTHY-BMI at: 8/21/2012 (06:58)
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