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9/25/12 8:06 P

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So true.

The folks here have a wealth of information and they're super generous with sharing it!

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9/21/12 3:56 P

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I was so glad to find this team because I knew I could diet - have a lifetime of it. Losing was not the problem - maintaining is. But there were so many things that began happening this time - other lifestyle changes, thought processes, etc and I felt pretty alone. The blogs by maintainers have been a major resource for me. Just recently a sp maintainer really helped educate me as to bmr and the importance of meeting it. I can tell you that in my other teams, there are people who do not know about meeting your bmr. Education is crucial (can you tell I was a teacher?). This team can really help point people in the right direction.

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9/11/12 12:28 P

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Will you please tell me how to change to the maintenance ticker? Thanks!
oops, found it, finally!

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8/20/12 10:44 A

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I agree, too. It's not just the support from co-journeyers, it's the constant reminder that we aren't alone. I am more mindful of my own food life if I share it with others. There are whole magazines and TV shows on cooking and food, but not much on limiting food. It's obvious to the world that people losing weight have to impose limits, but not so obvious that even those of us who look "normal" to the outside world have to limit food also. People (like my sister and brother) who have always had intuitive food limits, find it amazing that I still have to count. But then again, people who can throw a fast ball think all it takes is a windup and a pitch. They ought to see me.

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@ PACHZIGER

I know people had been asking for a maintenance ticker for a while. Even these threads probably aren't the first time it had been suggested.

And the maintenance tickers appeared at the same time as a bunch of other kinds of tickers that don't even have to do with weight....

So I'd hesitate to claim credit for this team in getting them. But I would hope that we all expressed our appreciation for them on the community tech forums (I think I did - it was a year ago). Plenty of us use them, anyway!

Yeah those hiatuses (hiati?) can be a real problem, for lots of us. Staying active and engaged with other humans seems to be one of the "magic" ingredients for continuing maintenance, for a lot of people.

There have been studies done on how effective various forms of contact are for weight maintenance after weight loss programs. #1 appears to be in-person. #2 is via computer. but so far the studies haven't been very sophisticated about considering how interactive the computer part needs to be.

I bet that if we form emotional attachments with our online friends, interactions with them can become almost as effective as face-to-face interactions.

So anyway, that's my longwinded way of saying "I agree." LOL

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8/20/12 12:18 A

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If you guys are responsible for the maintenance tracker, THANK YOU! I've obviously slipped a little too long but I still feel I'm in maintenance compared to where I started. I just need to visit SP regularly and keep monitoring the scale. A two month hiatus doesn't cut it for me.

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I think a 5th stage for maintenance is a great idea too...keeping people active and motivated to stick to it would be so helpful, especially since hitting the goal can be such a let down after struggling so long to get there.

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8/17/12 8:09 A

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@NELLJONES

We only just got that maintenance ticker, in the past year!
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I agree it's very very nice!

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8/17/12 8:05 A

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On another thread GOING4HEALTHY made a great suggestion that we start piping up on the main message boards. I love this idea. So I'm reposting my response over here so we can find the links more easily.

As a start, I've posted our August maintenance anniversaries over at the "Woo Hoo! Button to Celebrate Success!" board:
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/messageb
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I think something like this might help spread the message that maintenance is hard but doable.

Would anyone be interested in handling these posts once a month? I've formatted the maintenance anniversaries spreadsheet so you can just cut and paste the names and page links. A template can be used for the rest of the message. What do you think? Is anyone up for this?

Another thing we can do is to browse those boards for people seeking help in maintenance.

Here is a link to message board posts containing the word "maintenance"
tinyurl.com/SP-boards-maintenance
And here's a search for the word "maintain"
tinyurl.com/SP-boards-maintain

There are lots of folks on there asking for help and support on how to maintain, transition into maintenance, etc.

Most of them are not on this team. One simple thing we can do is congratulate the ones who have gotten to goal and invite them to the team using the link on the front page and their Spark ID.

It would also probably be friendly and helpful to respond to their queries. When we respond it might be useful to mention the At Goal and Maintaining team so they can find us if they have more questions. We have a simplified link you can paste into the box that comes up when you click the "Add a Link" button:

http://teams.sparkpeople.com/maintaining

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8/17/12 1:42 A

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Yep I'm one of those who lost w/Spark, then maintained for almost 2 years. I drifted away from Spark and healthy lifestyle, gained back about 10# over the next 2 years and now am back at losing it again.

As a "failed maintainer" I guess I can blame SP for not providing support but it was me shoveling food into my mouth when I got stressed. I could say that I was marginalized on the boards but I'm the one who lazed on the couch.

Is losing hard? You bet! But i did it. Is maintaining hard? Obviously! But i can do it. I need to find a way to enjoy the perpetual balancing act so I can keep doing it longer than 2 years :)

A ship in the harbor is safe. But that's not what ships are built for.

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8/16/12 7:54 P

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There used to be 5 stages of Spark, with Stage 5 being maintenance. You got so many points for going through each one, and I remember I couldn't get the stage 1-4 points because I was already at goal when I found Spark. They aren't listed on the Sparkpoints page anymore. I remember how long we had to beg them to let us have a maintenance ticker, but their programmers did figure out how to do it. .



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I really like the 5th (Maintenance) stage of the program idea. AND after reading all these posts I vow to be more active. I too have felt like nobody "needs" to read my blogs now that I am close to my goal weight.

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Ha ha ha! I love the marriage analogy. Too true! (I've been happily married to my high school sweetheart for 15 years, and it's awesome, but boy, it's work!)

Does SP read any of this? How does one formally suggest something like this?

4-a-healthy-bmi, this reminds me of your most recent blog post, too... I'm definitely in a phase of wrapping my head around all of this. I like the support from this team, but it would be even better if it were something the site took on.

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7/30/12 1:50 A

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Kristine, I love your idea about a 5th phase! emoticon
I think knowing that the last phase is maintenance (rather than a fleeting moment of victory) is so important.

This all reminds me of the movies, where getting married is seen as romantic, but happy marriages are not celebrated as much.

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7/26/12 12:31 A

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I think a more involved transition phase would be helpful, too.

If we could just get folks over that 2-year hump, I think the rates of relapse could be better.

Already we're starting to lose people from the Hall of Fame, due to attrition...
docs.google.com/spreadsheet/c
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There are quite a few people who signed up a year ago and haven't updated their data, although they've been sent spark mails about it. 48% of them were still under 2 years of maintenance.
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If you click the links to see their Spark pages and / or contributions to the site (on the first link above), you can see that many of them have gone inactive or their account doesn't exist anymore. I hope they've just moved onto other sites and are still maintaining successfully. But disappearance usually doesn't bode well, given how often we see people coming back and writing regretful blogs after an absence and regain.

Edited by: 4A-HEALTHY-BMI at: 8/15/2012 (22:21)
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7/25/12 9:05 A

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Now that I've had a chance to reread 4-a-healthy-bmi's post again and digest it, I think what might be good is a 5th part to the "spark diet", maybe called maintenance phase... ie, you stay in the 1-4 as needed (good to cycle back to useful ideas), but some more emphasis placed on the "5th" phase. I think the idea of encouraging people to stick with it and keep tracking/keep engaged for 2 years of maintenance is such an excellent idea. And honestly, it benefits SP, too.... I think it would make more people stick around (which I think they want, right?), it would help them document long term success, and I think it would have a really great (and positive) reorientation to the whole site.

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Too bad so little attention is paid to those who maintain their weight after losing, because that's the REAL mark of success of any program. I'd love to see the percentage of people who maintain for a year, two years, or more be higher for SP than for other programs.

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Yeah, I got that number from looking up the names in the blog postings. I wanted to get a rough idea of how many of our members were still active on the site. Of course there are plenty of folks who might participate in other ways, but I just wanted a rough comparison with some other groups. It turns out that we have a much smaller fraction of vocal members than a team such as the 300+ to lose team. Here's the thread where we discussed that: www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/team_mes
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We've got over 16,000 members now. I doubt there are more than 120 who are regularly posting to their blogs.

You've got the right idea. Turn that trend around NOW. I find I'm getting better about responding sooner to gains, which I hope means I'm getting better at this!

@GOING4HEALTHY
Your story sounds painfully familiar. While *we* definitely need "fixing," as you indicated, I also think there are tools that could be implemented here that can help support maintainers better. Since the folks who run Spark People are too busy doing other things to spend time on this, I began building tools on my own, using Google Spreadsheets.

It was interesting to go back and read my original post from over a year ago, because I can start to see where the ideas came from.

In the end it wasn't the periodic challenges that helped us document ourselves, but rather the collection of maintenance anniversaries and the Hall of Fame that resulted from those data.
docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=
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And now that the list is over a year old, we also sadly have folks who have not checked in for over a year.
docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=
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Most of them appear to have disappeared from SparkPeople.com overall, I have only ever heard from one of them when I tried to contact them and ask them to update their data.

I think to improve our maintenance statistics it will require keeping people engaged and focused on the long-term. This is one reason I emphasize the following numbers*

- The likelihood of regaining weight when you reach goal is 80% - 95%.
- When you've maintained for 2 years the likelihood of regain drops to 50%.
- When you've maintained for 5 years the likelihood of regain drops to 27%.

* clinical.diabetesjournals.org
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If we can just get people over that first 2-year hump, their chances of success for the long term are dramatically increased.

If you haven't already, I welcome anyone reading this to also join in to celebrate your maintenance anniversary and help us show each other and the world that this CAN be done!

docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform
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...and if you can think of any other tools or challenges or forms of support that will help us maintainers, I encourage you to post them on the forum or even develop them yourself!

And it's not all bleak. One thing we got from SparkPeople.com in the past year was a maintenance ticker, which is awesome, and lots of people use them.
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Edited by: 4A-HEALTHY-BMI at: 7/17/2012 (06:51)
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7/17/12 12:20 A

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I agree that Spark drops the ball, when it comes to the maintenance side, of weight loss. It is big time exciting when you're losing the pounds, sure, but once the scale and jean sizes have reached their lowest level, then it can get pretty darn mundane.

When I joined Spark in 2007, I lost a ton of weight, and everyone was seeking me out for tips, so it was exciting and rewarding. Then, the weight loss stopped and I realized that I no longer felt part of the main core of Spark. So I left. Struggled on my own, re-gained, and returned once again...just to find myself right back to that "what do I do now" side of Spark. Left for just a short time, came back, lost again, and decided it wasn't 'SPARK' that needed the fixing...IT WAS ME!

So in 2010, I once again left Spark at the weight of 129 pounds and began working on my own mindset of 'why' I kept putting myself onto this same roller coaster of gaining and losing. Part of me believes it was the 'challenge' side of myself..as nothing could stop me, once I put my mind into it..then once the 'challenge' was done..so was I.

But this time, I got my head together (this is key) and the battle was/is over. Now, since I still thrive on 'challenge', I had focused on a couple body & age ones that have/will keep me on the straight and narrow...

1st: I do not want to risk having to have another pelvic floor type surgery, as I did last year, and any added excess weight CAN make it a possibility. So I ain't going there! I'm scared "straight"!! emoticon

2nd: Since I'm at that 'age'...there's the 'Change' on the horizon, in the very near future. And along with that, comes the sporadic hormones, which could very well alter my body's ability to get excess weight off, easily. So I ain't risking it! I'm staying "narrow"!! emoticon

I have been back on Spark, not even 2 months, yet this round was/is not due to any form of weight loss. In fact I'm, now, 17 pounds less than I was when I left in 2010. emoticon No, I came back because I was missing my old Spark Friends (2 of whom came back just days ago, themselves) and because I want to show that it IS possible to be part of that 5% success category...even at the age of 50! emoticon

KEEP STRONG MAINTAINERS!! emoticon

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So glad there is a maintenance team. I have tried and failed to post with my smartphone and have come to the conclusion that SP needs me to sit at my computer to post anymore. Rats. Anyway, I like our leader's comment somewhere (I saw it last night on my phone) that of 13,000 maintainers here, only 150 or so blogged lately! I plan to blog! I am up by 9 pounds over my lowest weight, but that only means I have 4 pounds to lose to be within 5 pounds of my lowest (I already am within 5 pounds of my lowest) and I am bloody determined to get there again! Yeah for SP!

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I am so glad there is a maintaining team. It's a place to share with others the reality that being healthy also is better than any extra amount of unhealthy food tastes.

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Maintaining is not as dramatic and glamorous as losing, but I've found that I get great satisfaction from this wonderful team and keeping records of my exercise, food, water and sleep
through Sparkpeople. They keep me focused on the healthy lifestyle I've adopted for the rest of my days here on earth. emoticon

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I agree. Perhaps like with the "Messy" series that deals with maintaining orderly homes by looking at how "Cleanies" live... to learn how to be successful in making our bodies healthy we need to look at the habits of maintainers even more than the habits of weight losers.

But of course, in this society of wanting instant fixes, there is always somebody trying to market the impossible dream, rather than the diligent work it takes, day in and day out, to maintain, nurture, and refresh our bodies and ourselves. You're right... it's not flashy. But it so beats the nasty roller coaster of regaining and having to lose it all over again.

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I agree that the "diet" community doesn't do anything about maintainers because they aren't flashy, they don't make money or good stories. However, these are the stories that need to be told because we have learned there is no such thing as dieting, there is only finding and living a healthy lifestyle for your body and your life!

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Documenting people who maintain is not a great interest to the diet community. Only here is the topic brought up. It would be a grand idea for the Sparkpeople organization to gather the info from its members and have their body of experts crunch the numbers and info and produce a book.
When you reach the weight goal the wow factor and how you did it questions go away.No more story telling of that journey. It gets old.
You still have the diet sites on your computer and still read them and even hang out here.
It is a new frontier when you start the maintenance life. questions pop up in your head, like should I journal still with a calorie range like here or should I just eat whole food, keep a exercise log. and the list goes on. Important part is never go back to your old familiar way of life. That what would put you back and worse less muscle to burn that fat.
The temptation is only a thought away. So keep the food and situation triggers to a minimum. That is hard..
please never give up such a wonderful gift of new and healthier life.

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I do think using the trackers helps me tremendously. I used them this weekend as a family reunion of sorts and "gained" 4/10th of a pound.

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This is such an important topic. I don't know about anybody else, but I've become obsessed with learning more about weight and fat since I started this journey. The statistics are dismal about how many people actually manage to keep the weight off. I understand that there are metabolic changes that happen and that anybody who has been overweight will NEVER become a thin person on the inside e.g. for the rest of my life I will be a fat person in a thin person's body and will have to monitor my food and exercise if I want to stay thin. OK, cool, I get it. But even knowing what the odds are, I still want to try.

The other possibility is that the research is flat wrong. Too many studies are done on people who self report intake, or with people who are at a very extreme stage (e.g. who are so desperate to lose weight, they will let themselves be checked into hospital for a month to be studied). Maybe that doesn't represent everybody.

The best thing Sparkpeople could offer its members is good, solid information that says, look! It can be done! We've got a group of people right here who have done it, and this is how they achieved it.

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Yes, a whole other part of weigh loss and getting healthier is maintenance. It would be really interesting to find out just how many people are at the maintaining stage. Do people leave SparkPeople after they reach their goals? How many "have" to come back because they've gained the weight back?

One would think that it would be advantageous to have a maintenance feature to help continue the success of the members. Wouldn't that be another positive that "x" amount of weight has been lost using SparkPeople, but also kept it off for "x" months or years. Hopefully, it will be considered and implemented soon!

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You're either naive or there may be something here for my next business venture

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Hope springs eternal.

If they ultimately won't implement what we want, at least we can collect our ideas and eventually maybe someone else will.

I'm still hoping they'll get around to it. Color me naive, perhaps.

Edited by: 4A-HEALTHY-BMI at: 6/30/2011 (13:17)
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that's a shame





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@ BAILEYS7OF9
I've had several email exchanges since 2009 with Chris Downey and the Spark Coaches about expanding support for maintainers and every time been told they'd love to do it but are busy with other projects.

Edited by: 4A-HEALTHY-BMI at: 6/30/2011 (13:11)
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Curious. Are you sending any of this to Spark Guy or the Coaches?





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Carrie, I still have to track, and give myself pep talks. What SparkPeople does for me is give me a venue where I can do this without "wearing out" my ever normal friends in real life who don't "get" that I still have to work at it.

I mean, with all the weight cycling I have done over the years, they must be exhausted from hearing about it all the time. But here at Spark, we're all continuously working on it! Focus. I guess that's my personal deal. I know I want it. I just need the constant reminders of how much.

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While I find coming to the site interesting, I didn't find it helped with maintenance. - My 12 pound weight gain can attest to that.

I need MORE than the social networking, I need monitoring and some sense that I have to report. Perhaps I'm abdicating responsibility, but I find needing to report progress to others keeps me more focused. But, what I also need is a place to learn how to fix situations when they start to go off kilter. That was definitely lacking when I slipped and started creeping upwards ever so slowly.

Instead of getting help, what I got was people telling me how well I'd done.

So, I guess I'm one of those people who needs external accountability.

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I really believe the continued social support is vital to maintenance for me. Spark People *is* my maintenance plan, because I can keep coming here and continue to talk about it and keep it green!

Motivation requires constant renewal. Weight maintenance is *work* for some of us! emoticon We need to feel rewarded, pampered, successful... and the feedback kind of stops or goes negative once you've got to goal range!

I'm really looking forward to tracking successful maintenance as a group / team!

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Every Thursday morning when I weigh and see I'm still right at goal weight after 4 years, I'm amazed, because I've previously been on the same roller coaster we've all been on before.
I can only credit the daily logging in to SP with my food choices and my exercise minutes and reading the informational blogs and articles and testing my knowledge by playing Sp trivia. I also must acknowledge the support and encouragement I get from my husband, who walks with me and enjoys healthful food as much as I do. We have a kitchen scale and weigh our meat (4 oz. for him and 3 oz. for me).

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I can't wait until I get back to maintenance so I can monitor. I think this is just what I need to maintain focus.

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Head games anyone?

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In another thread NELLJONES addressed the issue of how to demonstrate success in encouraging maintenance.

"I've often wondered if plans that charge for weightloss LIKE people to gain it back so they can get another shot of income? Spark is free so that wouldn't pertain, but Spark may get people who were successful on Jenny or Nutrisystem, or on their own. It's hard to sell Spark as successful in helping people maintain, where are the stats? The before and after pics aren't very dramatic, which is the way I like it, but not conducive to a successful business model. "

This is such an important topic I thought it deserved its own thread.

I think this should be possible. I mean, if the NWCR can document maintenance based on annual hand-written surveys and publish the results in peer-reviewed scientific journals, I think tracking self-reported weights on a site like Spark People would also be compelling evidence.

At the moment no one is tracking maintenance here on Spark as any kind of aggregate statistic. I suspect our pilot maintenance challenge may be the first time anyone has tried. I'm actually kind of interested to see how well we manage as a group to stay within our stated ranges.

There are 39 people signed up already. I suspect we'll have over 40 signed up by the deadline (July 5). Actually we'll definitely have at least 40 because I haven't signed up yet, myself! LOL

That's a pretty respectable sample size, actually. I've read scientific papers on maintenance with that few subjects (not that we're going to try and publish analyses on ourselves, LOL)

But, suppose we find that 70% of us have kept within range for 2 months. That's pretty good. And if we kept having challenges and found that even as few as 50% of us were able to keep within range for a year, that would be amazing, given the current statistics out there.

I think we can do it. Many of the papers I've read have stressed the importance of an interactive support system for maintenance. We've certainly got that here. And with a few challenges and maintenance-oriented team goal streaks thrown in, I suspect we can buck the trends.

Anyway, I think with numbers like the kind we'll get out of challenges like this we will have the potential to document our success at maintenance as a group. And I think it's that sort of thing that a site like this could implement to sell its success to the world.


Edited by: 4A-HEALTHY-BMI at: 6/29/2011 (20:42)
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