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5/9/13 10:52 A

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How do you track the tibicos in the nutrition tracker?

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2/7/13 7:40 P

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Ha! That's funny! I just read an article about the alcohol content after a 2nd fermentation is done! :D

Noted about the flavorings. I was basically going to follow the cultures for health videos, and like you said - just the grains, water, and sugar.

Thanks again! I'm getting real antsy for a good batch! My middle child was premature, sick all the time, and had lots of antibiotics. Now he has really bad allergies. I've actually been giving him curcumin to help ease some inflammation which has been working great - but I know because of all the antibiotics his gut flora has been decimated. Same with my husband after all his sinus infections after so many deployments to the sandbox. I'm hoping that this project of mine does all of us some good! :D

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hey mmm!
Sorry I am just seeing this now.
Girl its been so many years since I smelled baby spit up, that I've forgotten what it smells like!

They do have a bit of a fermented sweet/sharp acidic smell to them.

Whenever you get kefir you need to rinse it in mineral water.
And throw out the first couple of batches of tibi.

Tibicos (tibi) is the name of the finished beverage that water kefir produces.

Don't ever put you kefir grains in juice or in with the flavorings.
Always put the tibicos in with the flavorings.
There will be enuf bacteria/yeast in the tibi to do its magic.

Another thing... I used Welch's Concord grape juice to make a grape soda this summer.. and I got sparkling wine.. bc I let it ferment too long!
LOL

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So my very first batch of kefir water is brewing away. I was actually quite surprised by the smell when I opened the package of grains. I didn't expect them to smell so much like baby spit-up. LOL. I'm hoping that it tastes much better than it smells when I add in my flavorings. Please tell me it will Mzz!!

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Good question, MMM!

Goitrogens work by blocking the uptake of iodine by the thyroid gland... if you're getting your medication from a pill then it follows that iodine isn't critical for thyroid hormone synthesis, because the hormone is ready made in that pill.

Iodine is used elsewhere in the body, but strawberries are a crop that contains iodine naturally.

I don't eat strawberries unless they are organic.
Because organic strawberries are so expensive and difficult to find, I eat them rarely.

Aside from being goitrogens, the other problem with strawberries is the chemicals used to fumigate the soil before planting.

The fumigant used to be bromide based, which is bad not only for the thyroid (bromine is a halogen, which competes with iodine that the thyroid needs) but also for global warming (who knew?).

So California... in its effort to comply to its global warming rules, switched from methyl bromide to methyl iodide.

Which doesn't upset the carbon cart but does cause thyroid cancer.

Sometime last year public outrage got growers to stop using methyl iodide... and I stopped following the story because it was just getting too complicated and there's other things to eat that are less controversial that I don't have to bird dog.

As for other goitrogens...
I eat a LOT of Kale... which is a goitrogen... but I'm also careful to get adequate iodine,iron, selenium, copper and zinc... I also lightly steam the Kale in a pan, or blenderize it for green drinks and mix it with kefir water.

Both methods I feel help disable the goitrogens.
I don't know what you tell ya about the strawberries.
All I can do it tell you what I've done and why.

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Mzzchief

PS if you do decide to eat them, treat it like you would soy... keep it away from your thyroid meds by at least 4 hours.

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Do I need to worry about goitrogenic foods if I don't have a thyroid?

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remember strawberries are goitrogenic

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Read the blog and commented...

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Yay!! Thanks Mzz! Even my hubby is excited about me making kefir after I told him about it, and my little girl is excited because she can put strawberries in it! :D

Just purchased my water kefir grains & a nylon mesh strainer. Now I just have to go buy some jars. Very excited!!!

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hey girl!
I have two types of kefir, water kefir and milk.

The water kefir beverage is called Tibicos.
To be perfectly frank with you, I prefer tibicos to the milk kefir, as its really quite delicious.
The milk kefir is really really tart.

I blogged about water kefir here.... for those reading who have no idea what kefir is about!


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Basic equipment is two mason jars, one to grow it in and another to collect it in.
A non-reactive strainer... plastic is best, stainless steel second.
Brown sugar... I use organic succanat. If you don't have brown sugar, than white sugar and molasses.
Mineral water... I use mineral water from Walmart, 88 cents a gallon.

Hope that helps!
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Mzz,

This is more of a question for you - I remember you mentioning that you make your own kefir a while back. I'm really interested in making it myself, and I've watched a few videos, but I need a little advice on how to start. I found Keysands live organic water kefir grains for sale on Amazon that has some amazing reviews... but other than some huge glass jars, what else is needed?

A "how to" would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks Mmmdrop

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