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That was a while ago, all better now, more or less... thanks! emoticon

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hope you are better Kathy

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9/1/12 2:05 P

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Yeow! Careful is good but obviously no guarantees.

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Some days, even being careful isn't enough...

I tore my rotator cuff GETTING INTO BED... LOL

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"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." Walter P. Chrysler said it, I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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ME? My shoulder is better but I am careful NOW! Too bad I was not careful before. I must have lifted something heavier than I knew??Who knows?? My sis son said it was old age... emoticon

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emoticon I have and I am telling myself that too.

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I'm glad you're feeling better, I do understand the pain of medical bills though. Tell hubby-This too shall pass ;)

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No but I did hurt my rotator cuff a few weeks ago. I am better but before I was in PAIN! went to er as per hubbie now he is crying because of the bill. emoticon

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Thank you all so much, I will stop my upper body weight training & push ups till I see the doctor & probably try to stick to ice which does help. Also of course no heavy carrying. I will probably look for an orthopedist, since my regular doctor will probably send me to one anyway. Will let you know what happens, thanks for the good advice, I know the sooner I get help the better off I will be, I tend to forget that :) Took me 3 freakin months to get a one on one with a CDE though(I go Friday, I'm excited! Hoping for quicker ortho appt :)

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8/26/12 9:24 P

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Yes Liz definitely see your doctor. It sounds a lot like bursitis which is the swelling of the fluid sac in your joint known as the bursa. I have had episodes of it for many yrs in my shoulders. The thing that really helps the most is ice. Try icing the joint right at the shoulder rotater part. Since many shoulder issues are actually in the joint more deeply it is hard to treat. I find muscle rubs etc to be useless. Ice has always helped me if I do it several times a day for a few minutes. The Nsaids and natural remedies will probably help some too. Good luck with it.
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Go to the doctor. I had a very bad shoulder, I could not lift my had above my shoulder or past my spine at my waist. I used to be able to link my hands together behind my back. I went to physical therapy and that helped some. What I had was the fluid sack in the shoulder had solidified, not completely. I still cannot straighten my arm completely upright but it is close. This is after 2 1/2 years. I don't often have pain in the shoulder anymore though.

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After my knees were replaced I had surgical gout. For quite some time thereafter I had attacks of gout that affected my right shoulder. I didn't know you could get gout in the shoulder. My doctor prescribed Allopurinol to prevent gout attacks. Until the other evening when I actually injured my shoulder, I haven't had any further problems with my shoulders.

The others are absolutely correct, you need to get a professional diagnosis and then the correct treatment will be effective. Don't even consider self-diagnosis.

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I have had it a couple of times, usually in my left shoulder. It was excruciatingly painful and I could not lift my arm at all. I had to stay home from work because I could not dress myself.

Chiropractic may offer some help but be careful. Depending upon the cause, it could do more harm than good.....

What I have found works the best for me, is Arnica Montana along with Arnica jel.) Get them at a health food store) The AM are tiny little tabs that melt under the mouth. I took the maximum dose (4 every hour) initially and gradually decreased the amount and duration. The AG is rubbed into the muscle and helps reduce the swelling. And of course had to exercise though the pain until the arm was mobile again..... this takes time!

Anything you do can have potential side effects. Check with your doctor as to the possible cause of your condition. I refused the injections, etc and went the Alternative route. This may not be for everyone...

Good luck to you.

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8/26/12 9:46 A

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Wow, thank you all so much! Fortunately I have not lost any range of motion at all yet but it is very uncomfortable to put any pressure on it, It's really just my right shoulder at this moment. I think it's important to be pro-active & catch things as early as possible. obviously, my doctor will probably send me to a specialist which is fine, thank god I have insurance. I don't have much time now but I will check back later & process this all, thank you all & have a great day, Liz

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had it once & my DR gave me some pills that are not meant for asthmatics talk ask check & check again

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Talk with your doctor. Diagnosing what is happening to your shoulder is important so that you are prescribed with the proper treatment. Hopefully some PT might help so you don't need to take a more radical step of cortisone (ouch!) or surgery. There are many different ways to exercise your shoulder muscles. You want to keep your shoulder strong without exacerbating your injury. Kathy is absolutely correct - warm up with same aerobic exercise or heat before exercise. A cold muscle can respond like a cold rubber band and when that happens it is not pretty.

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If you can use your shoulder at all, it probably isn't frozen, just slightly frosty! LOL

This is the kind of issue that really takes a level of expertise that the layman just doesn't have. Even a doctor can miss something here... mine did! LOL It took a trip to the ER...

You may have torn a rotator cuff or have something as simple and uncomfortable as arthritis, or something else entirely... I find that I prefer my doctor's description to the definitions I saw when I googled it... my doctor defined a frozen shoulder as "immobile, due to inflammation and lack of proper use." What happens, apparently, is that there is inflammation due to an injury, improper use, or overworking of the joint, which results in pain: and, our reluctance to use the joint because it's sore increases the problem, allowing adhesions to form, which basically kind of glue the moving parts together.

I was told that yes, cortisone (injected into the joint itself) can reduce swelling and inflammation, and IF THAT'S THE PROBLEM, it will help-- but it won't address the adhesion issue so it isn't always effective as a treatment. Sometimes the only way is to go in surgically and break up the adhesions... a viable solution of course, but not one most of us want to face, especially when there are exercises you can do, if you catch things in the early stages... they're painful, but they do work and will break up small adhesions in the process. I know, I do them two to four times a week, when I'm on target with my workout routine.

I know it can be expensive, but it were me, I'd talk to my doctor, maybe suggest an xray or ultrasound to make sure I am not making more problems for myself by trying to self-diagnose. I actually thought I'd torn my rotator cuff again, and went to the ER because it was sudden like a new injury. Turns out, it wasn't that at all but something rather unusual. I have a VITAMIN D deficiency due to poor kidney function, which caused a parathyroid issue, which in turn caused granular calcium deposits in the muscles and tendons that were apparently shifting when I move, pressing on nerves in the process--plus I also apparently have some moderate arthritic deterioration in the AC joints on BOTH shoulders. It was a relief in a way, to know-- but... Yuck.

I was told to continue doing the exercises, and just take pain meds and/or ice things up really good when the swelling got bad--I can't take NSAIDS because of the kidney issue that causes the vitamin D deficiency that caused... catch 22. LOL The Vit.D issue has been addressed, but I don't know if that will dissolve the calcium deposits or if I'm stuck with them. So far, it feels like I'm stuck... lol

I always start with warmups, either a light set of upper body "aerobic" stuff, or a heating pad... Then ice up the joint afterward, to reduce any swelling.

The last couple of months have been a major setback for me, but I'm ready to start doing them again, myself, so I can try sending along my list of exercises, if you like. Just sparkmail me, and I'll go look them up. I do them from memory, myself, but I couldn't tell you what they're called... LOL

Anyone else have personal experience of this frozen joint thing?

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I had never heard of Frozen Shoulder. I did however, pull some muscles when I brought my breathing machine up the stairs last night. That thing seems to get heavier every time I take it somewhere. I can't do without it though so I am forced to deal with its weight. That is an exercise in itself.

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When i was looking it up, apparently the only treatments they have are nsaids(like advil), cortisone shots(OW)& surgery. they really don't know what it is or what causes it, & diabetics do indeed get it more frequently than most. My pain is just annoying at this point, haven't had it diagnosed but if I find anything else out I'll let you know, about other treatments.

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I have it. have had it for years. recently was told that maybe shots might help..IDK. My endo doc hasn't suggested anything, like it is something diabetices get sometimes, I take tylenol extra strength. helps some Let me know if you find out anything, could use a bit of relief myself. emoticon

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Hi all, hope everyone is doing at least ok today, I am. I noticed recently when I carried heavy bags for long distances, my shoulders would be really sore, and stay that way. I just recently heard about frozen shoulder & I'm thinking I have it. It feels better when I don't carry heavy things, do upper body workouts & take ibuprofen. I'm quitting the ibuprofen tomorrow, really don't want to take too much of that.. Well if you have it or know about it I'm sure I don't need to go on, just wondering if anyone here has it or knows about it? I'm seeing my dr. 1st week in October

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