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3/7/12 9:58 A

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Another important point: WHAT you eat with the carbs affects their impact on your BS. Eating carbs only is the worst which is why we are always advised to eat some protein and/or fat at the same time. This helps prevent or at least slow down the spike in BS.

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3/6/12 1:51 P

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Sounds great to me. I always like to mix my meals, have breakfast at supper or supper at breakfast, whatever. And if works so why not!

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3/6/12 9:55 A

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Water and veggies have always been easy for me to do. Getting away from pasta, rice, potatoes, etc. - not so much.
And yes - we all have individual struggles, that's true. So I appreciate all the comments because at least I know that HERE are some people who have similar frustrations (although not always within the same food groups! )

BTW: Having chicken on top of salad greens for breakfast .... how's THAT for getting away from a morning breakfast spike!

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3/3/12 9:40 P

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Kathy, that is so funny (your friends being carbohydrates) lol emoticon

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3/3/12 9:24 P

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That's pretty much it, LITTLEWIND! I think it's fairly safe to say that we all think instantly of unhealthy things when ever the word "carbohydrate" is mentioned! LOL

And when I eat the right balance FOR ME, I can honestly say that some of my best friends are carbohydrates! LOL

I wish I could eat more protein though... my kidneys can't handle it. A renal diet is worlds away from the diabetic kind. You think YOUR choices are limited-- It's VERY hard to stick to no more than a few ounces, when there's a lovely roast or a piece of salmon or a slice of tender chicken breast... *sigh*

I'm only supposed to have about 10% of my dietary intake in protein, 15% maximum. The "norm" on SP charts is 30%... and for most folks in the US anyway, THAT doesn't seem like much! LOL
...gives you an idea how much fun this is! LOL

I think the point I'm going for here is that Val makes an excellent point about carbohydrate sensitivity, but that we all are coming from different places, and we all have different tolerances and needs, and -- as LITTLEWIND said,
"What works for you may be different. The only way to tell is to test, Test, TEST...."

And oh yeah, don't forget to drink the water! LOL

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3/3/12 4:46 P

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I am a type 2, will always be a type 2, but I have been on insulin for many years now. It's sort of like cancer, once you have been diagnosed with breast cancer, it will always be called breast cancer, even if it they get that all out and then it comes back in the lungs, or where ever Crazy, huh!.

As for mealplans, one of the biggest problems today, is that when someone says "carbs" they immediatly think of flour, potatoes, rice, etc, etc.

All vegies (and fruit) have carbs as well and they are usually a healthy alternative to the above mentioned. Just be sure to avoid the high starch ones (like corn) Just like fats, you have to choose the healthier foods.

Try to eat lot of fresh veggies whenever possible. If you want to cook them, look for the lower starch alternatives

I really wanted spaghetti the other day, so my bil bought a couple of(very small) spaghetti squash and we had that for dinner. My sis made a nice sauce, and it was every bit as good as the pasta, but without the guilt or spike.....

I cannot eat oats, it spikes my bs. Other people can. But if I eat lots of fresh veggies and a tossed salad, I not only don't get spikes, I actually need less insulin.

What works for you may be different. The only way to tell is to test, Test, TEST....

emoticon Please keep us posted.

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3/2/12 9:45 P

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Pasta, bread, white potatoes are a recipe for high spike in blood sugar for me. I eat oats for breakfast, otherwise I get my carbs from veggies and fruit.

It is understandable that you are feeling both frustrated and burnt out. It takes time to accept that we need to view food as a tool for health. Take each day as it comes and post to let us know how you are doing. Great advice to go see a diabetic nutritionist.

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3/2/12 9:41 P

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let us know how you are getting on

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Thanks for all the responses!
I guess as I'm getting older [I'm 44 now], my dietary needs are changing. I drink water primarily, and have always loved my veggies! I became a diabetic with my first pregnancy 11 years ago and the endo told me after my baby was born the diabetes would go away - I guess that was my first indication I was not the typical diabetic!

I also have none of the other problems/complications that diabetics usually have [like high cholesterol and/or blood pressure, etc.] - even while dealing with PCOS too.

I guess I'm just getting a little frustrated and burnt out ... BUT I do appreciate the input from everyone, and I will continue on!

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3/1/12 8:43 P

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Diabetes is a carbohydrate intolerance disease. Carbohydrates will spike your blood sugar more easily than veggies and proteins, and that's a fact.

I [respectfully!] disagree with needing to eat carbohydrates in order for your brain to function. I've happily lived on 30 grams of carbohydrates a day for many years and had no issue with lack of brain function. : ) Perhaps the 30 grams a day were enough but truly, you DO NOT require brown rice, or pasta, or bread, etc.

Your body is proving to you that you either need to avoid those foods or perhaps consider adding insulin to your body so you can keep your blood sugar under control.

While type 2s don't turn in to type 1s, they often become insulin dependent. It used to be said that type 2 oral drugs push the pancreas to work harder, therefore wearing it out and necessitating the need for insulin. I don't know if that's current wisdom or not.

My type 2 husband watched how easily I managed my blood sugar and started on insulin several years ago. He's had a normal A1C since then.

Food for thought...



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hey kathy RIGHT!!! emoticon

TODAY IS LIFE THIS IS NOT A DRESS REHEARSAL

there is no cause when there is no effect km

i can do that, but not on a tuesday
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and down the shute.

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Mary's right. It takes some time to get used to a new regimen... and it's easy to feel deprived in the process.

Your doctor is right too, about the Type 1 vs Type 2. Type 1 is an autoimmune disease, where your body attacks and destroys the insulin producing cells. Type 2 is primarily an insulin resistance/carbohydrate sensitive disease... the symptoms and treatments are parallel, though Type 1 simply cannot produce insulin and Type 2 can but can also in some cases gradually lose the ability, for other reasons.

Type 1 will always require insulin. Type 2 may or may not, depending on a variety of factors.

There's a lot of stuff to learn here, but it isn't rocket science, and we're smart people, so...

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And don't forget to DRINK THAT WATER! Hey, Mary, did I sound like you, there? LOL

Kathy emoticon emoticon

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well my friend welcome to the team..have you thought about fresh veggies and fruits??? do those have gluten?? the problem with low carbs is carbs is what the brain uses to function so you need more balance than you would get with mostly protein get your doc to refer you to a nutritionist for diabetic counseling on that stuff you can find a multitude of books and cookbooks for free in the library for sure..you may have to hunt for them but they are there..i know this is hard because i have chronic kidney disease and the diet is so restricted there is nothing really left to eat..it took a while and lots of tears to get myself into it but as i said that was so restricted you know low protein low phosphorous low potassium and low sodium and there was just nothing left it seemed expecially when you laid that atop the diabetic thing..i did a lot of personal screaming and crying for a year but i finally conquered it..it's not easy but it can be done talk again with the doc about the spikes..you know i use short acting bolous injection of insulin based on the carbs counts i consume you might consider thatalso
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TODAY IS LIFE THIS IS NOT A DRESS REHEARSAL

there is no cause when there is no effect km

i can do that, but not on a tuesday
for that is my day of thrust in the opposite direction -
off the starboard bow
over the hurdles,
and down the shute.

last is just the slowest winner. c.hunter boyd

people often say that motivation doesn't last. well neither does bathing - that's why we recommend it daily. zig ziglar

if i stitch fast enough do


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Hello - I'm new to SparkPeople. I have Type 2 and I also have a gluten/wheat allergy, and PCOS [I know - I'm a mess!] I've dropped 10 lbs. since the beginning of Feb. by cutting back on portions and getting a bit more activity. I have a long way to go ...

Lately, I've noticed that my blood sugars after meals are getting way too high no matter how much carb is with my meals. I've gotten my morning FBS down to under 120 just by getting more sleep [I'm a bit of a night-owl, unfortunately]. But no matter what my meal contains, whether it's 1/2 c. brown rice or a bowl of gluten free pasta my sugars spike into the 200's. My system doesn't seem to be able to tolerate any carb amount. And unfortunately, a lot of gluten free grains make my blood sugar spike.
I take Lantus (40 units), and 1000 mg Metformin with dinner.

Has this happened to anyone else out there? I've heard of Type 2's becoming Type 1's, but my doctor said that's not true...

In the last week or so I've switched over to a mostly protein based meal plan.

Any comments or info would be appreciated .... thanks!

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