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I just posted to another discussion, but I think maybe this is the right place. I'm trying to cut my carbs to under 60 net per day. This really seems to be helping my blood sugar readings, but I'm having trouble getting enough fiber. The veggies don't seem to be doing it. Any suggestions?

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GEORGE815,
I happen to know from other forums that KATTREE is not taking any medication for her type 2 diabetes. She was, but she decided to try managing it by eating low carb.

So her reported results are medication free. I too manage my type 2 diabetes with food choices alone. I don't eat things that are more than 6% net carbs by weight. Yes it is a little restrictive, but needing to take pills with you all the time is also restrictive.

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Belated congrats on the 6 score for your A1C. Are you taking less medicine now?

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thanks for the suggestions, will try them

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fbs 126 got my a1c back yesterday 6 emoticon

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or shred cauliflower raw and cook dry with small amount of coconut oil and mix half and half with the rice

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Get Basmati rice. Long-grain Basmati is the lowest on the glycemic index.

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I'm craving white rice...any ideas?

I also got some chicken lunchmeat, and wrapping it around celery, and about 15 minutes later, I'm so-ooooo hungry, what gives?

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I am so glad I found this thread today!! I started the New Atkins Plan on April 1, 2014 and have lost about 13 pounds and my numbers are good but I was having doubts that I was doing the right thing. I am so used to eating regular "diet" food and counting calories or points that when I looked at carbs I was horrified. I started questioning if I was doing the plan right. But like yall are saying it's the blood sugar numbers first then the weight loss!

I'm still confused but I will continue and see what happens! I'm doing about 30-35 gr. of net carbs a day or at least trying to!

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James, i guess humans can get used anything
, even rabbit food. I just hope my ears don't grow long and floppy and get bushy tail cos that'd just be weird. This morning i ditched my usual ham and cheese sandwich for breakfast and had whole honeydew melon, one whole grape fruit, a banana and more supplements than you can shake a stick at.

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Subject: Rabbit food

Hi Jeff,
Yes I used to think of various vegetables as rabbit food. I only ate them to soothe my conscience, and even then not very much.

Since cutting out carbs, except for those in low carb vegetables, I can honestly say that my taste preferences changed. Unbelievable really. I now love zucchini and many other vegetables. Even ones that I downright disliked, cucumbers for example, are now OK, not great but OK.

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Jeff,

Hang in there, it will all come together. A quick note, you can enter in food that is not already listed. If you take the information from the label. On your food tracker it will say "enter food not listed". Then it will be there for the next time. Your making an effort. It's about small steps. Good Luck.

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Hi Juniorssister and James. The nutrition labels are labeled in grams for carbs here if they are labeled for carbs at all. And the school lunches have nothing in the way of nutritional labeling. So i can only second guess on my carb intake. I am on insulin and yes I check my glucose levels like 4 to 8 times a day.
I've been using the spark food tracker but half of the things i eat aren't on the food list.
So i havent been counting carbs i'm still semi newly diabetic. I've been muddling along trying to eat more rabbit food and avoiding alcohol and chocolate...except i'll use low bs levels as an excuse to have chocolate.

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Hi Juniorssister and James. The nutrition labels are labeled in grams for carbs here if they are labeled for carbs at all. And the school lunches have nothing in the way of nutritional labeling. So i can only second guess on my carb intake. I am on insulin and yes I check my glucose levels like 4 to 8 times a day.
I've been using the spark food tracker but half of the things i eat aren't on the food list.
So i havent been counting carbs i'm still semi newly diabetic. I've been muddling along trying to eat more rabbit food and avoiding alcohol and chocolate...except i'll use low bs levels as an excuse to have chocolate.

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Exactly, what the carb amount that is listed for the product. For example one cup of fresh strawberries might be 12 Carbs, for me I might only take a half a cup. My food tracker is shared, feel free to take a look for an examples. I am by no means an expert, but I'm willing to share what I know, and I'm willing to learn. The amount of carbs that are effective in both good blood sugar control and weight loss is very individual.

If you aren't already I would encourage you to track your food. Do you currently test your sugar? Or are you just trying to make better choices? If you test your sugar, it is a lot of trial and error. Test your sugar before a meal, wait at least two hours and test again. Something that is referred to as testing in pairs. Keep careful track of what you eat. You can note your numbers on your spark food tracking page. Then you will be able to determine what works well for you. After awhile, you will know what works for you and what does not.

I agree with James fully, the amount carbs recommended is to high for me personally to maintain control without shots.

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JEFFJAPAN,
The diabetes association has "one carb choice" defined as something with about 15 grams of carbs. They do suggest 2 or 3 choices per meal, so about 30 to 45 grams of carbs per meal.

So at 3 meals a day that comes to something like 90 to 135 grams a day. My type 2 diabetes is NOT under control at 90 grams a day. I've measured. But this is about 1/3 of the North American average of 330 grams a day. So it is lower, but in my mind not low enough.

However they are not aiming for drug free management as I am. The problem is that it is hard to sell such a radical approach, so the Diabetes Association takes the middle road on this. Too bad.

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I understand one carb choice is one selection it's used for carb substitution. But what exactly is one Carb count? Is it measured by the gram ? So
Carbs 40 would be 40 grams of carbs?

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When I refer to 40 Carbs I mean actual Carb Count.

What I think you might be referring to, is something my Diabetic Educator used as an example, and they would say, pick 1 Choice, 1 Selection meaning One Choice equals 15 Carbs. Atleast that has been my experience

For me, good blood sugar control comes first, and weight loss comes second. Right now that amount of carbs helps to keep me shot free.

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Hi Juniorssister. When you say that you stay at 40 carbs do you mean 40g grams of carbs or 40 units where one unit is 15grams of carbs?

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Following those Diabetic Guidelines of 45 per meal, will make a Diabetic go crazy. Or atleast for this diabetic it did.I am not, nor do I profess to be any type of medical professional. This is my experience and what worked for me. I started on 4 shots a day, oral meds twice a day. Following what that guideline said I should follow. If your not finding the success you want, start tweaking. What I can say for sure, is that our bodies are all different, what works for one, may not work for another. I have now eliminated my meal time shots, and my sugar has been steadily hoovering around 95. At 49, its the first time in a long time I'm losing weight, slowly, but it's coming off.. I keep my carbs no higher than 50 a day. Mostly staying around 40. I'm sure to get my carbs from veggies. Keeping my protein low, and my fat alittle higher. There is a wealth of information here and people are so supportive. I'd encourage you not to be afraid to try different things. If it doesn't work for you, try something different. Keep your doctors and nutrionist as part of the plan, but keeping exploring to see what does and doesn't work for you.

I also recommend tracking. For a long time I tested in pairs, meaning before I ate, and then 2 hours afterward, you need that much time for your body to process properly. Then see what spiked you, and what didn't. In beginning it's alot, but it will give you the best information possible, what works for you.

Be your own investigator, you are worth it. Over time, things might change, and you have different results or reactions. Record, Journal, Read and Investigate.

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In my opinion the Glycemic Index is only slightly useful. It helps you pick foods with less of a blood sugar spike, more of a spread. However even better is to avoid carbs in the first place rather than just smooth their effect out.

You can be eating a lot of things with a low GI and the effect is a long term spread of more carbs. Not all that helpful.

It is very easy to avoid high carb things with few adjustments in what you eat. For example eating mashed cauliflower rather than mashed potatoes. After you don't eat the high carb things it is easier to go further and make choices on other things that lower your carb intake even more. Your blood sugar measurements will show the impact.

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I've tracked my carbs for years, and tried to stay within the Diabetic Educator/Dietitian's goal of 45/meal 15/snack....my A1C continues to stay at 7 or below (126) but I have highs especially in the morning around 9 (162) which I know is normal and up & down during the day. Which I understand is not the way Diabetic should be. We should try to stay consistent, rather than up & down significantly. Last week, I start eating by the Glycemic index, still using the 45/meal goal and for the 1st time, since I started on meds(metformin(4)/diamicron(1) my morning BS is 6.9 (124). emoticon so I think I continue with watching carbs & using Glycemic Index. By the way I work in front of the computer so sit all day, but walk most days for +/- 1 hour.

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Great information from all of you! I really have not tracked carb grams. I think I will look into this more. I would really love to get rid of this weight and diabetes!

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For breakfast I sometimes have nutola a Rosedale combo of chopped almonds, cashews,hazelnuts and macadamias toasted with cinnamon and ghee. It can be made ahead kept in the refrigerator and topped with a 1/4 cup of blueberries and a splash of almond or coconut milk. It is tasty and filling

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Thanks James, I will get the ingredients this weekend and give it a try.

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METALJEN73,

Here is a low carb pancake recipe, you just need to go buy some vanilla flavoured protein powder.

Make it according to the recipe, but depending on the brand of powder you may need to add more or less water. If you've ever made ordinary pancakes you should know how thick the batter should be. Also keep them small, they don't hold together quite the same, close but not exactly the same.

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Careful on the heat, they burn a little easier than wheat based ones. Oh yes, go buy some low carb pancake syrup. Lastly don't forget bacon as a breakfast possibility.

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Thanks James,

One tip I would love is breakfast ideas. I am eating eggs nearly every day. Needless to say after a 1-1/2 weeks I am getting sick of eggs.

Lunches are ok I am eating salads, leftovers, or frozen atkins meals. Dinner is ok too I just have meat and veggies.

But breakfast is a struggle. I used to eat cereal or oatmeal.

Any tips from those more experienced would be appreciated.

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METALJEN73,

Good for you. After one week the physical part of the carb addiction is broken. But like any junkie there are still cravings.

My suggestion is to have low carb comfort foods, like cheese. I've also made whipped cream that I eat like a dessert. I whip it and at the end, when it is thick, blend in a squirt of flavouring, I've found lots of flavours of Mio, which is 0 everything, especially 0 carbs.

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Thanks for the advise everyone. I do notice it is better this week. I also have seen my BS numbers come down about 10 points.

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METALJEN73,

A headache when going low carb is very common. Your body is addicted to carbs and nothing else will do. Perhaps lots of "reserves" in body fat, but your body is out of shape chemically speaking and can't burn its reserves.

All this changes in about 3 days, and this hump is one of the reasons people keep eating loads of carbs.

For the headaches take some ordinary salt, like a teaspoon or two in warm water, and drink it. It helps a lot. After one week of low carbs you'll feel fine, probably better than before.

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My guess would be that this could be a result of cutting out all of the sugar and processed food. A type of detox so to speak. Makie sure that your drinking enough water. As always be sure to check in with your doctor so that your own medical concerns are addressed.

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I have a question for others who have gone low carb. I am on day two of significant carb reduction. Above 30 net carbs per day. I have a significant headache. Is this normal and will it go away?

Any help would be appreciated I feel awful.

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I was on diabetes medication for 9 years. I started a low carb diet to loose weight, which I did. As a side effect I was able to stop my diabetes medication completely.

My blood sugar is not under control with 90 grams of carbs a day. It is under control with 30. Everyone is different, and will have different carb ranges.

Even if you stay on your diabetes meds, lower your carb intake and get to a lower carb range. It is very easy to stop eating ultra high carb things.

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Great information Russell!

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What you say makes perfect sense to me Russell. Thanks

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Hope it is working for you Melissa.

Re-reading some of my posts were amusing. A few of my ideas were poorly explained, and it has been 2 more years now since I last posted. I have now been off meds for 57 months ( almost 5 years ), and my A1C is 5.3. I have lost 170 lbs now, and exercise a lot more because of it. Eating high fat, low carb has also allowed me to get off my cholesterol meds, and reduce my BP meds by 75 %, while dropping my Tchol to 105, and my BP to 95/65.

I could say that more exercise reduced my cholesterol, and increased my HDL, and the weight loss helped with my diabetes, of course. Now when I do eat off plan, I don't gain 8 lbs. of water weight, or have a 300 blood sugar. The reaction is less severe.

The truth of it though, is that all of these problems are symptoms of one thing. Eating too many high glycemic carbs. By reducing most of these, and eating lower glycemic carbs, I got rid of craving, which let me lose weight, reduced blood sugar spikes, which caused less Insulin to be released, which keeps my glucose from being stored as bodyfat by the Insulin, and also because that keeps my blood sugars from crashing, since Insulin's job is to remove glucose from the blood. When the blood sugar hits 70, we get hungry, so high glycemic foods, cause a huge spike, a huge Insulin release, which removes the glucose from the blood to your booty. Now you are fatter, and hungry again. Getting out of this loop is the answer to lowering blood sugars, as well as the number on the scale. If you are hungry, you won't do either. The improved BP, and cholesterol stem from overall imporved health due to these factors. But without the loss of cravings, you wouldn't lose weight, or get blood sugars stable.. so cholesterol, BP etc. are also benefits of low carb.

The question is always how low carb. How many carbs can you eat at a meal, and keep you blood sugar below 120.. that is the proper amount, and it varies with every individual. If you have a 150 blood sugar, you ate too many carbs, or they were to high on the glycemic index.

So the first thing you will want to do is eat better carbs ( quality ). Lower glycemic carbs will allow you to eat more carbs, and maintain normal blood sugars. So of course ice cream is out except for special occasions, but what about corn, potatoes, bread, pasta, rice, cereal, or even bananas. I'm not saying that you can't eat these. You need to test these, which is why you poke your fingers, and get your blood sugars before, and 2 hours after a meal. If you eat corn, and chicken, and your blood sugar is 110 two hours later, then enjoy. If it is 168, then corn may be a problem for you. If you are worried, ask your doctor. Tell him/her that whenever you eat corn, it spikes your blood sugar, and see what they say. If it is incoherent babbling, ask for a referral to a dietitian. test each food, and find out what carbs don't cause you to go over 120.

Once you have a list of foods that are " good ", then you need to work on quantity. Any good food, in enough quantity is harmful. For broccoli this may be 10 cups, and for corn it may be 1/2 cup. At that point, you can decide whether to eat 2 cups of broccoli with cheddar melted on top, and have a 90 blood sugar, or eat 1/2 cup of corn, and have a 120 blood sugar. You may even decide to do both, one for lunch, one for dinner.

It all comes down to quality, and quantity. The better the quality, the high the quantity you can eat, before popping over that 120 level. By doing this, you can maintain blood sugars below 120, and in 3 months, your A1C will be under 6.0

The trick is to let the number on your meter guide you, not a random number like 150 grams a day. I can get to 150 grams a day many different ways.. Some will keep the blood sugars below 120, others will cause them to soar over 200. Carbs are like a gas pedal. You don't want to go over 120, so you don't want to push the number too high, but you don't want to go too low either. So by paying attention to what each food does to your blood sugar, you will be able to know what your blood sugar will be. You can say if I eat 1 cup of tomatoes, and 1/2 an onion with some olive oil and chicken breast, my blood sugar will be 110. If I add 1/2 a cup of kidney beans to a chili with tomatoes, mushrooms, and onions, it will be 130, so I will cut kidney beans down to 1/3 of a cup. You may even find that you add carbs to one meal, and cut elsewhere. When I eat my eggs with vegetables, I usually use mushrooms, but if I was running low on my blood sugars, I could add onions, or peppers, and just double the veggies.

Much the way you use the gas pedal to keep your speed between 35-65 m.p.h., you can use your knowledge of carbs, and how they affect you, based on meter readings, to keep blood sugars between 80-120. By changing the amount, and glycemic index of the carbs you eat, you can determine what your blood sugar will be two hours from now eventually. This is the #1 complaint I had on the diabetic diet. I had no idea what it would be. I had no control.

Hopefully, you can determine what these foods are, and discuss this with your doctor, and make the necessary changes, or see a dietitian, who will help. Also, I hope for most of you it is a high level of low glycemic carbs, so you don't feel deprived. Good Luck with getting those blood sugars between 80-120.

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Thank you to everyone participating on this thread. It has really brought me peace, knowing that others struggle with carb confusion too. I was diagnosed 3-4 years ago, had a honeymoon period, and then went right off the rails and am now on insulin. I'm kind of broken-hearted about that, but on the other hand, so what. Little I can do about it now except for just keep on trying to get healthier in whatever ways I can.

I asked my doctor last summer (now I'm working overseas) whether I should low-carb and he said "yes." I THOUGHT that was the answer I needed, but then I later realized, "HOW low carb?"

I have fair control, but still struggle a lot with DP. So I'm high in the mornings, but then during the day close to normal. Close, but not there yet. It's like herding cats, I swear. You get one or two of them in line and the rest go wandering.

So I'm going to do under 100 carbs for a bit and see how that works.

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Thanks so much for recipe. It gives me something sweet to eat for snacks. Great idea. Merry Christmas.

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SEWPERFECT3,

Here is a like to the recipe. You need protein powder, either chocolate or vanilla flavour, and you need unsweetened peanut butter. I like the crunchy kind, it adds a bit of texture.

The link is from a recipe on my favourite low carb team.

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What is your recipe for this bread?

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Just for the record I'll repeat what others have written on this thread. I too am managing my type 2 diabetes free of medications after 9 years of pills. Insulin injections were around the corner.

I eat about 20 to 40 grams of carbs a day. It took me about 6 months to find a range of foods that keep me happy and not feeling deprived. This morning I made chocolate bread from chocolate protein powder, crunchy unsweetened peanut butter and water. About 1 gram of carbs in a slice, 10 grams in the whole loaf.

Like others, I too am generally less hungry eating low carb.

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In Oct. I began to cut carbs drastically to no more than 40 net per day. Lots of protein and more fat than I'm accustomed to. I gave up all bread, pasta, fruit and sweets (I eat a handful of raspberries daily). I did this based on what others on these boards have done and the results that they have had. For me the results have been that I have lost weight and my FBS have stabilized. I feel great. I follow pretty much what Russell does who also posted on this thread.I believe that cutting carbs has helped me manage my diabetes and lose weight.

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My nutritionist said about the same thing about 150 carbs or less per day on a 2000 calorie plan. You split the out with 50 carbs breakfast & snack, 50carbs lunch & snack, 50carb supper & snack. You cant carry any carbs over to the next period of the day. If you break out the fresh veggies you can eat a lot. It requires planning to have the right foods in the correct portion. At the beginning it takes a lot of label reading of you foods. One way to look at grocery shopping is don't shop the inside isles. That is where most of the prepackaged food is and it is all loaded with stuff you don't need and can't have! Just learn to live without bread, any way shape form. You will just save yourself a lot of aggravation if you do. My downfall is exercise, I hate it! Just remember at the beginning it will be a little hit or miss. You find the foods that don't spike you blood sugars. Like my sister she can eat Dreamsfield Pasta and it doesn't bother her - still does me. She can do agave nector I can do honey. FYI you will have cravings. Now that your have been doing all this for 6 months I bet you are better at it already

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Hi everyone. I am new to diabetes and am read Dr. Neal Bernard's book on reversing diabetes. It is leaving me more confused than anything. Any suggestions? Thanks, Keith

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I am brand new to this Team but I am soooo glad that I stumbled upon you. PJ! I have read all of your posts and I just want you to know that I am so grateful that you all were willing to share so many specifics. I do not have health insurance and who knows when I will so I am on my own, learning at your knees as well as what I can read from different "experts". I have been monitoring my blood glucose since February 2011 although like the other person here the test strips are quite expensive and when our income dips down they are one of the things to go unfortunately.

I have been fortunate enough to lose weight (70 lbs from my highest weight) but I am still considered medically obese so I have switching out the type of food plan that I had been following. It was time. I C/P many of your comments so I can refer back to them as I tweak my new food plan.

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150 per day seems to work perfectly for me while I'm losing weight...I've a long way to go to maintenance, and I don't know what will happen to that number as the pounds come off--guess I'll find out.
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I was told in my $1500.00 diabetes class 45 carbs per meal if you need to lose weight and 60 carbs per meal if you want to maintain weight. So far I am down 51 pounds and have gone from three medications to just Metformin.

My issue is that now 7 months later, i seem to be forgetting some of the info from my very expensive nutrition class. I think it is time to see a nutrtionist and get some help. I need to shake things up a bit!

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Hi Everyone!!! nice to read all the posts here!

I am a T-2 diagnosed last august! My 1st A1C at end of august was 11.9 my cholestol was 6.9 total and triglicerides were 14.5! I was 238.5lbs! fast forward to Mid November i had really made a change to eat better and exercise more... I started doing 4 days of 45mins cardio per week anything from walking more to stationary bike to zumba and started seeing a Private Dietitian who changed my life... the 6 month journey to a new me she put me on has taught me soo much about nutrition and has changed how i see food!

In November my A1C went down to 7.2 and just February went down again to 6.2! My total cholesterol is now 2.3 and and my triglycerides are 1.5!!! I am now around the 180 range and still have about 20lbs left to go till ill be happy with myweight which is not a problem as im on a good plan...

I am now a 3rd semester Nutrition student in a Associates diploma program hoping to become a Nutrion and Wellness Specialist here in BC Canada and help others diagnosed with diabetes

for my eating plan... I can eat what i want as long as it fits in the guidelines she set out

Breakfast: 500cals, 45g NET Carbs, 12g or more Fiber, 15g or more Protien
Lunch: 600cals, 60g net carbs, 10g or more fiber, 18g or more Protien
Afternoon Snack: 150-180cals, 15g net carbs max, Source of Protein
Dinner: Same as Lunch
Bedtime Snack: 150cals max, 15g net carbs MAX (adjusted to find a product that can maintain good fasting sugars as needed) - I use Extend Bars they are a miricle for my overnight sugars!

Breakfast is the most important meal of the day especially for diabetics like us...
For me i usually have...
1 Serving Quaker Weight Control Oatmeal with 1/2 cup skim milk about 25g carbs, 6g fiber and 10.5g protein
1 cup of mixed berries (Raspberries, blueberries, strawb and Blackberry) 15g net carbs, 7g fiber 2g protein
1 Serving No sugar added Vanilla Greek Yogurt! - 50cals 3 carbs and 8g protein

I also have a iced nonfat latte tall from starbucks but i dont have that with breakfast... i wait till im almost at work and by then the sugars have normalized a bit and then i have it this way im allowing the milk sugar to impact a bit later on so im not hit all at once!

Just wanted to share about my story!!! i have some comments for others ill post a bit later on today just wanted to introduce myself and say hi!!!

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What I'm having trouble with is not eating enough carbs without going over the calories. I've discovered I could eat nothing but chicken and salad, and not be bothered a bit! The tracker has been a real help for me in that department!

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I am very new at counting my carbs, I was diagnosed with T2 3 weeks ago. I am on Metformin and as of yesterday I am also on Glipizide. My BS is now in the very low 200 started out at 380. Keeping my carbs at 130 a day is very hard for me since I am used to eating what I want. But I am doing it.

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Russell, one might also ask what would happen if obesity became a rare disease or if people simply refused to "diet" and try all the new things that are advertised. Weight loss is such a huge industry simply because no one is the same and something that works for one person won't necessarily work for another.
I really admire that you are able to cut your carbs so low! I keep mine around 125 to 150 a day and my weight just goes between 238 to 246. I read the book that Dr. Bernstein wrote (I believe) and he recommends only 30 gms of carbs a day to his patients but I haven't been able to go there yet! :) I did lose from 275 down to the 245 over the course of a year when I started watching my carb intake. I think I will bite the bullet and go down as you recommend by 10 gms at a time.
Especially now that I have been diagnosed with ESRD Stage 3 and have to watch proteins too!
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Just thinking to add my $.02 worth to the conversation.
I began my diabetic journey inSept of last year (2011) and began *dieting* to lose weight. My diet evolved during the ensuing months, going from a lo-cal (1200) low fat diet to what it is today, a vlc program that includes fat but very few carbs. Why? Though on metformin and now Januvia, on lo-cal/lo-fat I could never get my blood sugar leveled out. Since beginning, low carb has brought my A1C to the mid 5 range from just over 6.1. I couldn't get below 6 on lo cal. Just couldn't. I am fortunate to have a Chinese endo who is happy to approach my diabetes (or pre-diabetes) in a not so traditional way. She is encouraging me in the very low carb approach, and we are working to fine-tune my particular approach.
Do I embrace the low carb lifestyle? You bet. For me it works well. I rarely get hungry, I don't count calories, and best of all my sugar levels run between 90-110 most of the time. It keeps me from having the highs and I rarely drop below 85. I did LOTS of research before joining the VLC way of life, and for me it makes lots of sense. I wouldn't expect it to work for everyone, nor does everyone want to cut out the bread, potatoes, rice and sugar to the degree I have cut mine out. But my sugar meter really motivates me and this does work for me.
I realize that there is no *one size fits all* lifestyle. But don't be too fixed on one way of doing things. Whatever program you decide on do the necessary research to understand WHY you do it. Hyegeek is just very enthusiastic with what has worked for him. I happen to agree with him, but do believe we all have to find out what is right for our individual needs.

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Sorry that I don't stop by this team as much as I should. It has been 2.5 years since I took any meds now, and I have a 5.1 A1C, so diabetes is kind of on the back burner for now. I have a leaky heart valve, so focusing on heart health, and low carb.

My exercise is walking 90 minutes a day for 5 days a week, and 60 minutes of basketball on Wednesday, and Saturday.

My diet is 40 net grams of carbs a day, eating in my SP range of 2,470-2,820. That's total carbs - fiber. Today for example, I will be eating a can of mushrooms in 6 eggs, with 2 Tbsp of butter for breakfast, half a cup of macadamia nuts for a snack, then 13 ozs of b/s chicken thighs, 1/2 a can of NS tomatoes, 1/2 an onion, and a Tbsp of olive oil, cooked in 3/4 cup of water. That meal is eaten twice. Once for lunch, once for dinner. ..2,573 calories. 67% fat, 6 % carbs, and 26% protein.

Most people won't cut carbs so low, or embrace fat, which helps me sleep better, dropped my blood sugars enough that now I worry about low blood sugars, and dropped 135 lbs off me. I make sure to have some vegetables at each meal, except my snack, but sometimes even then. Yesterday's snack was 2 ozs cheese, and a cup of green beans. I have 10 servings of veggies a day. This keeps me from having low blood sugar reactions.

Since you hopefully already switched to healthier carbs, the biggest change I have done, is getting rid of pasta, bread, potatoes, corn etc. Pop was hard too...lol. If you still test daily, eat 3 pieces of chicken, and some green beans, and see how it affects your blood sugars, Then have some noodles, and corn, and see the results. I have had a 400 blood sugar before, and eaten 6 thighs. Two hours later my blood sugar was 80.

Basically I want to lower carbs enough to get a normal blood sugar reading. Many people do this around 100 grams a day. Cutting it to 150 a day was not enough for me. I did well all day on a "diabetic diet", but then cravings would hit me, and I would get 10 bean burritos, a 2 liter of Pepsi, 3 packages of Ho-ho's, and a pint of Ben & Jerry's.

I think my huge improvement had to do with my serious problem with sugars. I eat no fruit now, unless you count my tomatoes. I limit my cheese because of the lactose. These are sugars, and while alone may be okay, the food I eat if they trigger a craving, is not.

Start by cleaning up your carb choices. A book about glycemic index will tell you what foods spike sugars the most. Then start dropping carbs by 10 grams at a time, and see if that has a positive effect over the next 2 weeks. Pay attention to what you eat, so that if you binge, you know why you had a 280 blood sugar one day. Also note any foods that cause a binge. You may be able to eat more carbs if you eliminate trigger foods.

Bottom line. If you cut carbs low enough, eventually your blood sugars will normalize for most people. Whether you want to, or can stick to it, is another issue, but that is how I got off all diabetes meds in 12 months. They were threatening me with Insulin shots, so I was motivated..lol.

I just never believed that halving carbs was good for diabetes, but any lower was dangerous. I replaced my carbs with fat as a fuel source, and my energy has tripled also. I sleep better now too. My cholesterol has dropped 90 points(104), and my HDL has improved( 33 ). My LDL dropped a LOT ( 51 ), and my triglycerides from over 3000, to under 100. I am now off the cholesterol pill too.

I am not recommending my way of eating to anybody, but you asked what I did, and that is what I am doing. Hopefully small changes in the types of carbs, or minor reductions in the amount will get your blood sugars down, and the weight being reduced.



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Hang in there Kelli, everyone hits plateaus, and often people gain weight back. But you can do this. I love your attitude of being willing to sacrifice some carbs and looking for new answers! Have you read the DTOUR book? I'm reading it right now and it's helping me. I've lost almost 40 pounds since I started reading it and taking the advice. I still have a long way to go and many non scale goals to reach (such as I really want to be off my diabetes meds) but I believe we will get there emoticon

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Hello Russell, I am new to this forum.
I felt encouraged when I read your post.
I lost 65 lbs. the first 8 months, after being diagnosed with type 2.
I have followed the guidelines for carbs since day 1, that I was given, 45 for each meal and 15 twice a day for snacks.
I have high blood pressure and high cholesterol.
Last a1c and cholesterol check was fantastic.
My fasting blood sugar ranges from 92-108.
My probelm? I had 10 lbs. left to goal and have now gained 15lbs. back.
I have been horrified to lower my carb intake, until last week, but I still have not lost any weight.
Can you share with me what you are doing to become healthier and what is working for you to continue your weight loss? What is your daily diet like? Exercise?

Thank you.
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that's awesome, congrats! Do you count veggies when you count carbs? I don't, but I have been counting fruit and all the other carbs. still, I think I need to bring my carbs down a bit more, and I bet that would bring my numbers the rest of the way down so I can get off some or all of my metformin. *crossing fingers* will let you all know how it goes

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My husband and I are both trying to lose weight while getting my sugars under control. Diabetic nutritionalist gave me a range of 30-45 carbs at each meal and 15-30 carbs per snack. Husband and I have started a low-carb diet 2 weeks ago and I am seeing a huge difference in my sugar readings. I am staying under 100g carbs every day and was able to decrease my insulin requirements. I have more energy during the day. My sugar is staying under 150 even after a meal.

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Stick to the carb plan you were using before if it worked better for you. If I ate the recommended
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Russell, thanks so much for your post. It's well written and makes sense to me. At one point my doctor told me I had diabetes, but the numbers didn't add up according to statistics. From what I read, I was still pre-diabetic. I didn't fill the prescription for metformin, nor did I begin to take statins. After losing weight in the three month period between blood tests, my numbers greatly improved. I'm going to continue to watch carbs and limit most of them to fruit, while attempting to keep my calories around 1200 daily.

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The first two weeks I used SparkPeople I did not go with the recommended carbs. I was usually lower than the range or at the lower end. My blood sugars were better controlled. The last two weeks I was usually in the range recommended here. In both cases I lost weight but my blood sugars are more erratic. I really wish I could change the goals on site.

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Hiya,
Been on this team a while now.. i didnot post on this thread yet, I'm type 2 diabetic and have been on med's for 4 years..

Due to living on a budget icould not test my blood glucose when i joined SP in februari.. I bought a meter on sale last month with 50 strips and it was a bargain as the strips alone cost double and plus...
I've been meting every morning my meter reads the same as in uk here in holland..
A member from another team say's that you should multiply with 18, which i've been doing..
but another member here had a conversion of her glucose and when i devided it with 18 and multiplied it it did not add up to her conversion.. So now as you can imagine i'm really confused.. am i converting correctly?????Does anyone know??

My number this morning was 5.9.. (i had fallen asleep before my last tab & woke at 2.30 & took it then,I woke at 10.30 and did my test) my numbers are usually alot higher....
When i x 5.9 with 18 i get 106.2.. does anyone know if this is correct.. i asked SP & they told me to keep asking members..

Yes i live in holland been here for a good 30 years now.. In the south near Belgium..
Im from the UK, my dad was in the airfoce so we moved around alot, and i spent some childhood in Cyprus aswell..At 16 i still had the travelling bug and travelled around europe and lived in different countries..Went back to UK went to College then eventually ended up in Holland...

Weather is also rainy here but it comes in bursts like long heavy showers...its cold for this time of year its usually very warm...

I've been a pretty healthy eater most of my life, so to be diabetic is baffling to me..
I've put more weight on taking metformine than i've ever had.. just trying to reach the goals of contoling my glucose count..

I struggle with the tracker goals all the time,if I'm doing more fitness than my first goal they advice to upgrade so i did before i got ill with cramps... But the count on the nutrician tracker changed aswell and the calorie intake went right up.. I was already having trouble to reach it.. So when i had time-out with severe cramps i decided it was beter not to change the fitness count and went back to the original 10 to 30 mins a day count.. The nutrician track went back hahaha... So now i can try again to meet the count...

But I'm not as enthousiastic as i was before i got cramps,.. I'm not drinking as much water as i spent alot of the day in the bathroom & if i was not home it was painfull & felt like it exploded, so i cut that right down.hahaha...
My doc say's try to drink warm water..yuk.. I'm not keen on that but am doing feesable attempts very occasionally.. he says drink herbal teas then.. that i have been trying but forget to track it....

I've changed my fitness also to Leslie Sansone walk away the miles, as its easy not strenuous but its longer so i'm not sure to track as my nutrician will go up again which will bring the problem "how am i gonna find more calories etc..."

Well I'm so glad to have found SP I have lost 5kilo's and am glad for that my goal is 55lbs so thats aprox 10 off so leaves around 40...It goes slowly .. I still haven't found whats good for me yet.. I'm looking into a very low carb diet, its hard to go carb free,. but very low is also challenging.... I'm still searching for way's to do very low carb & how to plan the meals..
I'm a fruit lover and can eat all day fruit, which has a lot of glucose.. so im trying to eat with a piece of cheese or protein (when i remember)...
thats enough of me today..

Well wish everone a good evening/day/afternoon

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Russell, I've been reading your last few posts and nodding my head like a bobble head. (grin) I was diagnosed 11 years ago. I went through what some people call "the sweetheart period" at the beginning, where I lost weight on the standard diet, mainly by exercising like a demon for a couple of hours a day minimum and taking metformin. Fast forward five years, I had gotten bored, didn't exercise as much, and regained some of the lost weight. Surprise, surprise, my numbers went back up, and I was on meds again, with threats of insulin.

For about six weeks now, I've been following an eating plan that I created from the book "The Blood Sugar Solution" by Dr. Mark Hyman, and I feel like it's saved my life. My glucose daily averages have gone from 150 - 200 range to the 80 to 110 range, and yesterday my endocrinologist cut back my meds. So far, I've lost 19 pounds. Since I had been on a weight plateau that hadn't shifted any for the past five years, this is HUGE news for me.

The book examines how insulin causes "diabesity" weight gain, in diabetics and non diabetics alike. Hyman advocates non-processed healthy proteins and lots of veggies, predominantly, with healthy fats and fiber levels. He helps you to customize the diet, instead of insisting on a one size fits all approach, which I appreciate. I've been following the lower carb level "advanced" diet, and it's working for me. My endocrinologist considers me to be a success story -- and so do I!

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Wow! a way of eating that gets rid of soaring blood sugars, and helps you lose weight. Isn't that kind of what people are looking for?

Maybe because that is the natural way to eat? I am sure that if they were looking for a fuel to run the internal combustion engine, they would try many types of fuel. Eventually you would settle on gasoline because it does what you want. Maybe they would try plain oil, olive oil, kerosene etc, etc. In the ned they settled it by what worked the best for them.. someone had to say " gasoline does the job.. it fits perfectly " Thats why it was used. Any other fuel that wasn't as good was thrown on the scrapheap of history.

Yet when it comes to food, we have a way of eating, which reduces hunger, causes weight loss, stabilizes blood sugar, and we say " that's dangerous ". Something that does everything you need. For me personally, I can determine how many lbs I will lose by tweaking the diet ( fat %, and carb total ). Shouldn't we consider this way of eating without bias.

People talk of the dangers, and most of them have no scientific basis... "your brain needs carbs ", " your kidneys will be damaged ", or " you'll have no energy "... lol, these are just scare tactics. You are eating carbs, and ketones can also fuel the brain, your kidneys are in more damage with diabetes, while no proof is shown that low carb causes kidney damage, just that it could be an issue for someone WITH kidney damage already. Last, do you really think that 1000's of people are running around with no energy, long enough to lose 100 lbs? feeling run-down for a year or more?

That sounds more like a regular diet, does it not? hungry, crabby, worn out.

Best case scenario is that even when they have people in front of them who have succeeded beyond the norm, with all the benefits, and no harm, they are just being cautious.

a cynical person might ask.. how much money would be lost if diabetes was to become a rare disease?

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I have come to a very similar conclusion on the low carb thing. I currently able to eat more than 40g a day while maintaining blood sugars, but I'm letting my blood sugars dictate what I do.

While the weight loss that resulted from changing my eating has had many benefits, I would say that I place the control of blood sugars above weight loss. Ie, if the diet needed to keep my blood sugars in control did not allow me to keep the weight off, I'd opt for the blood sugar control just to prevent all those terrible side effects that you mentions. Fortunately, the diet that controls blood sugars also controls the weight, so I don't have to choose.

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I am now at 22 months with no meds because my carb range is 20-40 a day. My brain seems to be working. My last A1C was 5.4.

I would like it if I could eat closer to 80 carbs a day. I don't miss bread, or pasta, but I would like to be able to eat more fruit, cheese, maybe some nuts all in the same day, without fear of high blood sugars, or weight gain. However most days I feel no hunger at all, or cravings.

It really pains me to see people following the diabetic plan(s), and having to take meds, worry about side effects of medicine, and diabetes. Fear of low carb is causing people to continue eating loads of carbs, even though it spikes their blood sugar. They know in their heart that lowering carbs works, but everyone says it is bad, so it must be. Cutting carbs is okay, but not too much. That's hogwash.

You may be able to lose weight at 100 g of carbs a day, maybe only 40 like me. Stable blood sugars, and weight loss, should be your primary concern, and if what you are eating isn't helping.. make a change.

I would have to say that the #1 thing that got me off my meds was losing weight, and low carb did that. Maybe losing weight would have been enough, but I couldn't do it without low carb. Since I can't have a lot of carbs, I also see a larger benefit than most I will agree. I can drop from 500 to a 90 blood sugar with one low carb meal. This also works in reverse, so not such a great thing. It allows me to lose quickly, get into ketosis quickly. It also makes it so I gain weight quickly, have 500 blood sugars if I eat off plan. Also why I have to drop below 40 grams of carbs to lose, and maintain stable blood sugars.

Most people do not need to go that strict, but a nutritionist, or doctor right now can't even suggest this to a patient these days, which I find wrong. I am certain that a person can manage biabetes through low carb. Most of the people I know who have gotten off meds have done low carb. Still, more have done " moderate " carb, and struggled. Every one of those is hungry, blood sugars wildly all over the place. Luckily for them, they are on the " right plan ", or it could be dangerous.

I wonder what horrible side effects make low carb so dangerous.. could it be blindness, amputation of the extremities, kidney failure, and dialysis? No, that's diabetes.

I hear about people taking meds to stop problems for things like tingly legs, or heartburn. Side effects always include something like anal bleeding, impotence, temporary blindness, but no one tells them not to take them. They have to fix the original problem!

Meanwhile you have a disease that has horrible side effects already, not to mention the medication side effects. While low carb doesn't work for all( I think it would if done correctly ), it has less side effects than diabetes, and obesity. The idea that it is " unmentionable " is a crime. My doctor says they know low carb manages diabetes, but she can't speak of it " on the record ". I am the only patient of hers who has low cholesterol, off meds, and lost 100 lbs. Plus my BP is low. I am dropping meds every 6 months. She is unable to suggest it to people she knows will die, even though she believes that what I am doing could save 100 other patients. If she tried, they would fire her.

So they are all going to go blind, or have a foot amputated eventually, all because we " know " what works. Amzingly with all this " knowledge " we have so much more obesity, and diabetes, and no one seems to be getting better.. well, except for low carbers.

Go talk to a low carb team member.. you will hear about no hunger, 100 lbs lost, less aches and pains, disease in retreat. No one talking about a disease they picked up along the way. These are people who have been on it for years. Meanwhile the SAD is causing obesity, and diabetes at record levels. The proof is in our face. The professionals are bound by the govt., and the govt moves slowly. You can't blame the professionals for doing their job the way they are told to. My doctor knows she is hurting all her patients, but she needs a job.

I lived with diabetes for 7 years, until finally they discussed insulin.. that scared me enough to overlook the " dangers of low carb ". I personally believe they are hogwash, but a healthy person wouldn't voluntarily attempt something that might do them harm. I figured .. what the hell. I think diabetics should consider low carb though. Get educated about what foods to eat, do it properly, start very low.. low enough to see decent weight loss the first week, and stable blood sugars.. after you stabilize for 2 weeks, start adding back in carbs ( low glycemic carbs first ), and when you stop losing that is your max carb range. The healthier the carbs, the more you will be able to have.. Most should be from acceptable vegetables.

I would NOT recommend low carb to people that do not like meat, or who would start before learning about low carb. It is more work than a regular diet, same as a vegetarian. Both are restrictive diets, and need to be managed to work correctly, and to get your nutrition.

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My body just keeps needing more meds/insulin. I eat the 45-60 carbs per meal, 15-30 carbs per snack(2). I don't alter my intake much at all yet my body keeps changing. I exercise 4-6 days a week for minimum of 30 minutes. I do everything I am supposed to. Of course if I didn't eat any or little carbs I suppose my BS would be better, but for how long? We are all individuals.

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I agree with that Ambrosia. Glad you have found what works for you. My BS levels have been staying high. Jan. 19 doctor put me on insulin in evenings. Has helped a lot.


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I just wanted to report that I am having GREAT results since lowering my carbs significantly. I found that the ADA recommendations (and recommendations from my Dr., sadly) left my blood sugar levels waaaaay too high, and when I abandoned them totally for a low carb approach, my weight dropped and my blood sugar leveled out considerably. I think you have to experiment and see what foods give YOU good blood sugar readings and stick with them. Everyone is a little bit different.

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Ooooohhhh! Yep... I changed my goal date. Mystery solved. Thank you!

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