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5/24/13 4:12 P

What a surprise. I would think your blood sugar levels would be much lower with exercise. Are you eating or drinking something that would bring this about. I know when I work out, my meds love exercise. My levels become significantly reduced with exercise.

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5/24/13 10:08 A

Hello everyone. I have a questions. Been doing good with my type 2 for a while until the last couple of weeks. I have been trying to work out more, but my eating hasn't really changed. When I come home from work in the evening my sugar would be in the 70s Now when I come home from work it's in the 100s not bad but still a big jump from what it used to be. My friend thinks I need to eat more since I'm working out more. Does any one agree. I'm terrible with food. It's something I really struggle with.
thanks for your help

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4/12/13 9:10 P

Have high blood pressure and Diabetes2. Taking meds for both. 1750 mgs of Metformin.

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4/3/13 3:17 P

BABCIATEA: Are you waiting the 2 hours after your meal to check your BS?

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2/26/13 3:14 P

today after lunch of 1/2 small banana 45 grm whole wheat flat bread 1 1/2 T peanutbutter sugar was 170 . Can't understand this. I amgoing to try to keep carbs below 30 gms per meal.

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2/21/13 3:45 P

Hello I have had type two for a couple of years and recently increased from 500 to 1000 metformin due to increase of A1C fro 6.5 ish to over 7.Yesterday I tried a vegetarian dinner meal of a butternut stew well within appropriate range for the meal pp bs was 195 and today after a lunch of a small sub sndwich I am 221. I am wondering if I need to cut carbs down further than usual ranges

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2/18/13 9:00 A

Hi there! I'm new to this whole diabetic issue. I have not been diagnosed with it yet, but if I don't get things under control...I will be considered diabetic. So I'm a newbie at this. Any help you can give would be awesome. My last blood sugar test was 150. Doctor says he wants it below 125. Trying to figure out the things to avoid. By reading some of the posts already, I've got a few ideas.
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1/14/13 5:18 P

Let me tell you my best advise is to get on the bandwagon now with managing your sugars with your diet. I wish someone had given me this advise. I have had type 2 diabeties for about 6 yrs now. Once they start putting you on medication it's all down hill. They put you on medication that makes you gain weight and then they tell you to diet and exercise. Exercise is important, even if you just walk 30 mins a day it will help tremendously. I read in a book once that eating a 1/2 baked pototoe is equivilant to scooping out the potatoe and filling the shell with sugar. That is how that potatoe brakes down in your body as sugar. So if you can cut the white potatoes out, stick with sweet potatoes. Try some of the multi grain pasta's, better than white pasta and eat lots of veggies. You can have reg. pasa and potatoes every now and then but for the most part they're gone. If you just cut these few things down in your diet and try to work in some exercise you should be ok.

I really do wish someone had told me this so I hope it helps you. I'm now on medications and insulin (which i don't even take anymore) and feel horrible. I struggle to loose a lb and try to keep active but it is difficult. Hang in there and just read some books on it and you should be fine.

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11/17/12 8:44 A

Good morning

Would like to join in with this group as I have recently been advised by my doc that my blood sugar is on the verge of being diagnosed as being diabetic. My BS has been normal until just recently. The last two tests have been over 100 (105-126). My next test is in Feb. He has advised me to give up white potatoes, pasta, bread, rice, cereals, sweets. I have been taking my BS on a daily basis and I do not like what I see. I am scared. Diabetes runs rampant in my father's family. I searched out for a support group and found you all. I don't know where to begin and need some help and advice. All I can think of right now is a life of eating fruits, veggies, meat. Any suggestons would be deeply appreciated.

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11/16/12 6:07 P

PDANNYK, for your comments and suggestions. I am happy to report my FBS as been in the 100s every day since this one crazy day. I record everything I eat and the time of day I eat and go to bed. I can't seem to explain why it would have gone so high on that one day. Perhaps, I didn't get the strip in the meter correctly. I see my doctor in Jan. Looking forward to discussing with him.

I'm researching the "ph diet" and I am a firm believer in God's grace and healing power. So good to see your health improving in so many ways.

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11/14/12 9:35 P

Paulla, I went thru the motions for 15 yrs untill the chrisis of my wifes lung cancer and hopeing for a cure I went on the lifestyle changeing diet I commeneted about. Proir to this, I lost weight, exercised but still had little control over my diabetes. As soon as I started this diet I saw and felt the difference in my health. This woke me up to the fact that "hey, You can beat this maybe". The more I read and studied the more I became convinced I could turn not only my diabetes around but my blood pressure dropped to normal, my cholestrol went down and this realy excited me! All it took was the people who authored these books support on facebook to make me realize that I was not the only one who had problems that mainstream medicine could only give me pills for as a crutch when there are ways to beat all these health problems using alternative medicines method of a healthy alkaline diet to cure ALL my health problems. I am now off all meds for all my health problems. Last week my A1c was 6.3, my b/p was 100/65, my cholesterol was 145, all without medications or insulin. I ma not cured cause if I do not eat right my FBS goes higher than a normal persons would so I gotta eat right. But, That still beats the cost of meds and insulin and poor health!.

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11/14/12 2:54 P

I am very confused this morning. My FBS has been running 122, 124, 128, then TODAY 411 What happened? Can one day of too many carbs really cause it to go this HIGH?

I'm looking at this as a SIGN!! I think I have been just going through the motions NOT taking this as seriously as needed. I will be calling my doctor tomorrow if the AM results do not improve.

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9/18/12 7:11 P

Sugarsmom2: I attribute ALL my sucess on 2 things.
First is the fact that I changed my lifestyle of eating. I researched and read 3 books on a "Diet" (they like to call it a lifestyle of eating cause they truely state, DIETS DON"T WORK,) called the PH diet. I joined a couple of groups on facebook that helped me stay on and further learn this diet One of the authors also conversed with me via email to help me.
2nd, I prayed for the fortitude to stick out and learn all I could about healthy living (and i think this prayer was answered).
As I said, I used to eat what health nuts like me call the SAD (sad American diet) and leaned on the doctors advice that I would be on meds the rest of my life cause I was genetically prone to diabetes since most of my family was diabetic. I treated my body just like most people not knowing that I could help myself by changing my lifestyle. 3 yrs ago I weighed in at 240lbs with a 42 (tight) waistline. I "dieted" for 2 years and got down to 189lbs. Tthen I started the ph lifestyle.I am now 156lbs with a 32-34"" waist! (my high school weight)
The real challange was believing in the diet, but I am glad I stuck with it. The more i read and learned why this works the more confident I was and am! I AM going to cure this diabetes thing!
I eat right, walk 1 mile @ day, bowl 3-4 times a week and go to the Gym twice a week for a 15 minute simple core muscle building routine!

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9/18/12 1:54 P

that is just great pdannyk. to take no meds. and to have that low a reading . great job . tell us your secrets .

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8/30/12 9:25 A

Makes perfect sense. THANKS

I will go for my first A1C in 2 weeks. We should know more by then.

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8/29/12 7:09 P

You may have a genetic disposed to having high tri's ( all my sisters have it) but you can overcome this with diet. As I said, I was told this in 1994 and accepted the fact that I would take chemicals to counter this high Tri's for the rest of my life. I now take NO meds and my Tri's last check 1 week ago were 61.AND, I am takeing No meds, just changed my lifestyle of eating!

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8/29/12 7:01 P

Tx, wait untill you get your A1C back. Ir will tell you just how diabetic you are. Then the next step is to get your doctoer to get you to a nutritionist that specializes in a diabetic diet. If they now have you on a 700 cal diet thats not enough calories to get proper nutrition.! If your A1C is over 6.2 you for sure need to lose weight. And remember, diets do not work!!!! A change of eating lifestyle is needed or when you stop or relax the "diet" , you will go back to gainiing weight and losing health! Change your lifestyle of eating, don't diet! Make sense???

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8/29/12 10:38 A

Hello Folks,
New here. I've recently been diagnosed T2 Diabetes. I've been placed on a very strict 700 calorie liquid diet and one low calorie/low carb meal a day. I'm not on meds and trying to drop the weight so I do not have to be. Here's my issue. I have not been taught the ups and downs of my BG levels. I printed out a little chart I keep with my "go bag" and check my levels each morning and sometimes throughout the day. I chart EVERYTHING here! I have not had my A1C test yet, will be test in two weeks.

My new lifestyle is going pretty good, the weight is coming off, I'm exercising but i'm also human. Last evening I had a moment of weakness, I saw the Doritos bag in the pantry, I smelled them........and there I was...just had to have 1......then another... and so on until I'd had about 10 or 12 chips. Then I prepared my evening meal and within 30 minutes of eating, I was OUT! Sound asleep on the couch. When I woke 2 hours later I felt pretty groggy still and checked my BG and it was 147. I went on to bed. This morning it was 143 upon waking but after I began moving around and came to work, it had dropped to 114. Is this normal? Is this the curse of the Doritos? I have a lot of questions and do not quite grasp the whole concept of my blood sugar, but I do know that Doritos are no longer my buddy.

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8/24/12 12:59 P

Thank you for your responses, they are appreciated. I must say however, Genetics isn't a cop-out it's a reality to me...all my family have it...even my daughter.My daughter BTW is a vegetarian. ... doesn't even drink milk! I am on 1200 calories per day and exercise at gym 5-6 times a week, eat lots of veggies & fruit. My a1c in Jan was 4.5, my current cholesterol is 214 and everything else was fine. My arteries are clear no problems.

Everyone is different and men can lose weight a heck of a lot easier than women. My husband went from 38 to 32 at the same time I was exercising along side of him at the same intensity...I made muscle but didn't lose weight! I am controlling with diet & exercise and I have never been on a diabetic medication.

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8/24/12 12:43 P

My doctor when I was diagnosed w/ diabetes said that tri's were caused by genetics in some people. Mine were in the thousand range. Today after changing my eating my tri's were 56 this checkup! My Chol. used to be in the low 300's and now are 156 with an abundance of HDL! Don't let genetics be a copout though! I used to take 2 gemfibrozil @ day and now take none, simply for diet change! There is a formula for figuring true total chol. it is LDL + HDL+ trigs (divided by 5) = total chol.

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8/24/12 12:05 P

I have always had hig trigs...its genetic...my last a1c was 4.5 and my cholesterol is just 14 points above the range they want you to have them in.

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8/24/12 11:07 A

Pardon my spelling, my Kindle fire changes spelling and adds letters here and there. sorry!!!

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8/24/12 11:06 A

My Dr. also made the reccomendation to take chromium piccolate and it helped. I stopped one time and as 30 days w/o it approached my sugars started up again. Chromium is usually defficient in diabetics according to him. I know it helped me.
You are way to high in chlor. and trig's though!!! You need to change your diet like I did. I never believed much in a strict diet but. I changed my entire lifestyle of eating and I am now off insulin, off my b/P pills, off my trigy. pills and am only taqkeing 500 mg metdfromin before dinner. Google the Ph Diet or go to http://rense.com/1.mpicons/acidalka.htm and read about it. If you want to bad enough you can get complete control of it. My A1C was 7.5+ a tyear ago and is 6.1 now. I went from a 38" waiste to a 32" waiste with this diet and exercise. There are many books out oon this diet also.

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8/24/12 8:45 A

Morning! you know about using chromium Dr recommended it for me controlling with diet & exercise? my cholesterol was 214 fbs 113 and trigs 555 but for the past 3 months running 130-140+ for fbs

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7/26/12 3:59 P

Thanks for the advice. I am gonna try the snack at night and see what happens. I have been light headed too when my BS is in the low 100's. Seems if it is normal I feel bad like when it is too low. I hope my body is just adjusting and this will soon pass

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7/26/12 3:44 P

if my blood sugar is low enough that I might get too low at nite I usually have a serving of a fresh fruit with a small glass 4 oz of almond milk with whey protein in it or a tbs. of almond butter with the fruit. That way the blood sugar doesn't spike but will not go down as much. during the nite either. Try this but let your body tell you if it is right for you.
I do not know if this is right but that is how I handle it. I also check my blood sugar in the middle of the night if I get a potty call. Mine goes down to about 65-75 sometimes but that is not too low for me! When my diabetes was not under control though 100 seemed low and I felt light headed. I think the body acclimates itself to high blood sugars and also when you have it under control it does the same thing. 75 doesn't make me light headed like it used to. Anyone else find this true?

I used to eat saltines with almond butter but I found that made my am readings higher. Fruit doesn't seem to do it. Must be the starches in the saltines or something.

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7/26/12 12:24 P

I've learned that when I am high in the morning, I have bottomed out during the night. I need to have something before bed for keeping me from bottoming out.

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6/24/12 2:01 P

I have found a way to keep my blood sugars level that works real well for me. I try to eat somethig high-protein or a good fat like nuts or seeds and nut butters 3 hrs prior to going to bed and this helped lower my AM blood sugar. I have been on a diet called the Alkaline diet and have changed my lifestyle of eating. I have gone from 2000mg of metformin( max daily dosage allowed) and 28 units of Lantus and an A1c of over near 8 to now when I take 1- 500mg of metformin and 6 units of Lantus a day with my last A1c of 6.3. . My blood sugars are near 100 in the Am and never above 130 after meals IF I follow my diet. I have lost 18lb all since I started around the first of Nov. 2011!. I hope to cure myself and be off all meds soon If The Good Lord is willing!!!
My IM Dr. cannot believe the change in me. All my blood profile levels are great for the first time since I was diagnosed in 1995!
I add protein like Almond butter or whey powder or seeds to my lunch and PM snack to keep my daily totals at a 50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20% protein! This protein and good fats are essential in keeping ones blood sugars normal. Track your foods on here and try to keep your nutrient levels at these levels adding protein and see if it helps you!! My insulin resistance is decreasing daily as I am virtually never above normal. I didn't believe them when they told me this would happen when I started eating alkaline..

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6/17/12 1:30 P

My morning BS has been running in the 130's and today 140. I have come off my Metformin. As long as I eat right it is normal during the day but is still high in the morning. Any suggestions on how to keep it stable for the AM?

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5/30/12 1:13 P

that's good news I am a diabetic and i really can't keep my blood sugar under control i only use insulin and i do zumba three times a week.Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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5/5/12 6:07 A

CNICHOLES..

Your sugar count is stil very high!!!!

You should be around 108 to be fairly safe without med's..

I'm not sure its the meds that affected you maybe the stress of it all..
Stress is a no go when you have high sugar.. I had stress for 2 years due to other problems and my sugar was always around 198 and 300.. so i would call your doc just to be safe.. you may damage your heart or nervous system..

My doc and nurse talked to me for months, sent me letters and called me randomly into the surgery, made 3 appointments in the week first thing in the morning to test my blood, trying to explain these things to me and i didnot really understand,I was like you kindof in denial thinking it will get beter,...
I was not that high then only around 109 to 115 to 117.. because of all the commotion i got to thinking these guys are so concerned maybe i'm missing something, maybe it is must be life threatening, so i gave in, and they started me on the med's.. My sugar was already going up slightly each month and the med's did not bring my sugar down much i had to go from 1 to 2 in a very short time.. I'm now on 5 which was partly due to the stress i had.. and not changing my food and drink etc eating 3x a day instead of 5....

You can always stop the med's later but to avoid other complications i would seriously not do that..
2 a day is not much for your high count.. my count is 115 to 133 these days and i take 5 a day..

Since im on SP with all the info they send and links to other sites & info i have read & learnt about the effect high blood sugar can have, and i've already had a few strokes that i never realized and my nervous system has been slightly affected .. and i was not as high as you when i started med's.. so i think you should take it a bit more serious.. i know how you see it i was there it took me months to get started on med's.. luckily i had a doc & nurse who didnot want me to get too many complications and were there for me..
I hope you will try to look into the other complications high sugar creates and what the med's do to help prevent that.. here is a link for you.. there is an intro from a talking lady when she's done you can scroll down and do some reading on all kinds of subjects..

DiabetesCare.Net
I hope yhis helps you..
success
Tisha

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5/4/12 9:25 P

Thanks ladies. I've been testing and my #s are still going down even though i'm not taking the meds. They are high ....between 150 and 180 but they were even higher when I was on the medicine. I'm gonna stick to my plan of eating very low carbs, drinking lots of water and talking to my Doctor on monday. Maybe the extended release is the way to go but if my #s keep going down then why even bother with the meds?

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5/3/12 10:42 A

CNICHOLES Please dont stop the med's metformine makes you sick the first month then it gets beter.. but if you dont take your med you can get other organ complications!!!!

When my sugar went up my doc prescribed more i use 2 in the morning 1 for lunch 1 for dinner & 1 just before sleep..

if your count do'nt go down a little before you see your doc you cld call the surgery & ask if it would be ok to take an xtra 1 before sleeping
Tisha

Edited by: SWEETISHA1 at: 5/3/2012 (10:46)

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5/3/12 9:55 A

Good luck CNICHOLE518. You are definitely not alone. I'm frustrated every other day with this and it's been 4 years. Just when you think you have it figured out, it goes all screwy again.

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5/3/12 9:41 A

Thank you! The frustrating part is that I was diagnosed at an urgent care center. They faxed the bloodwork,etc to my doctors office, I followed up with my Drs office and made an appointment and they were able to "squeeze" me in THREE WEEKS LATER. So...i'm still waiting for my 1st appointment with my GP which will be on Monday.I guess I will wait til monday and talk to him then. Maybe the extended release is the way to go.

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5/3/12 9:19 A

I agree, call your doctor. When I took metfromin only, it didn't seem to work at all for me. My numbers were still in the 200s. He switched to the extended release ones and now I take 3 in the morning. 4 made me sick, but sugar was still not low enough so then he gave me actos.

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5/3/12 9:01 A

Go back to your doctor and tell him/her what is happening. You may not be able to take metformin. Ask to try metformin extended release. You may also need another medication to make your body produce more insulin. You may not need this after you have had surgery and recovered from it.

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5/3/12 8:24 A

Ok. I'm at my wits end. I'be been on Metformin for 3 weeks now. I take 500mg 2x a day. I have been drinking water like a fish, watching what i eat, Ive cut back on my carbs BIIIIIGGGGG time and the lowest i got my FBS to go was to 150. Now, for no reason at all its slowly creeping back up. Yesterday it was 180, this AM its at 188. I'm doing everything by the book and I dont understand why this is happening! I went for two walks so far this week. Each was an hour long...i dont know what else to do. I wanted to go for a walk yesterday but my back was hurting so bad it took everything i had just to finish my 8 hours at work and go home. I have herniated disks in my back and I need surgery. I actually have an appointment with a neurosurgeon on 5/16. I just dont know what to do. I'm doing cardio whenever i can (usually 2-3x per week)
The metformin is STILL making me sick. Yesterday was awful so today i'm not taking my metformin just to see what it does to my FBS.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

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5/2/12 12:37 P

Foxstar that cld be my problem aswell.. woww why does the liver do that i thought the meds control it??
I usually have yogurt with berries or grapes and sometimes 1 or 2 walnuts in the evening.. is that not good enough??.. you say dont forget the protein.. but what is the best protein before sleeping and how much??
I have started eating or a little cheese or piece of sandwich meat with my apple snack during the day.. but Im the same as MRSLP06.. my sugar goes up & down usually on the high's all day....
I try not to stress as i know that has an averse effect.....
thanks
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5/2/12 12:00 P

I'll try a snack and hope that helps thanks Is it normal to just start getting higher all of a sudden like that, because the past 10months its been no higher than 115.

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5/2/12 11:14 A

Your liver is dumping sugar into your bloodstream when you sleep. You need a small snack before bed. About 15 grams of carbs and some protein. Don't forget the protein. That should help your morning numbers. If you are having problems during the day try lowering the number of carbs you eat. Start with bread, pasta and rice if you eat any.

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5/2/12 8:40 A

Hi Tisha, Thanks for the response! It's great knowing I'm not alone. Yeah the Actos is for my surgar too. I do take a cholesterol med too but that hasn't changed in the couple of years that I've had this. I'm doing ok with that right now.

I talk to my doctor next month. I really just hope my meter is bad. I don't understand how one day my sugar is just consistantly high all of a sudden. I work out after Dinner since it's when I eat the most carbs. And I'll be honest I'm not getting up any early to do it before work (at least right now). So after 40min on the stationary bike my sugar was 122 and went to bed. Then this morning my FBS was 139. I can't tell you how many times I just want to give up and say screw it. I've been diagnosed about 4 years ago and only feel like I've had it under control last year until now. I just don't understand. I wish it was as simple as eat this and not that and be done with it.

How much does stress really affect your number?

I do try to eat around 45carbs for each meal. I'm trying to track my food on SP too. So far it's easy to do breakfast and lunch because I'm at work and on the computer all day but when I get home I slack with entering the food. I will check out that Leslie Sanson on youtube too. I just bought a kettlebell and I'm excited to start with that too.

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5/2/12 6:43 A

MRSLP06..Hiya I'm pretty much with you there.. only my doc puts me on 5 a day..
last month my 3 month check was beter than its been in a year but still he wont take me off 5 a day... i have to go another 3 months if its a little beter he might!!! reduce the tabs...
I'm strugling to try to get my diet correct here on SP .. i have alot of problems to get the righjt balace.. usually the carbs are on the higher side of the track and the protein, fat & caloties under the lower ..i've started eating nuts but it only sometimes helps a little..
Aother member has suggested that i go really low carbs or zero carbs for a while.. which i will plan to do.. when my pantry is empty again.. another week or 2..
I do know that if I'm stressed my count goes higher and if thats been ongoing i discuss that with my doc and has taken that into consideration.. freaking can cause stress...walking helps with stress... I like a cup of tea preferably with milk when I'm stressed
I've started to do the Leslie Sansone walk away the miles on youtube.. she has a few and i do the slow ones when I'm stressed...
What is the Actos?? and is it also for the sugar??
sorry i can't help you much but let you know you are not alone.. I've just recently been able to test and I'm really shocked at my high numbers...
feel free to ask anything..
good luck Tisha

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5/1/12 10:56 A

Hi guys, don't normally post but I'm kinda freaking out. For almost a year I've had the BS under control. It's been between 97-115 for FBS and after meals under 150. Last two weeks my sugar as been higher than normal FBS at 120-145 and after meals 198. I try to do almost every day at least 30min on my stationary bike. My eating habits although not great haven't changed. I tried a new battery in my meter and new pack of stripes and still higher than it's been.

Is it high cause im freaking out before I test my finger? I have been trying to exercise more, do I need to eat more? Do I need a med change?

medicine is
3 metaformin 1500mg total
1 actos 15mg

I don't want to change my meds... I'm doing my best to at least get off the Actos.
I see my doctor in june
last AIC in January was 6.1

Nothing has changed except riding my bike longer. Anyone know having any suggestions?
I know part of my issue is I want "normal numbers" not the diabetic numbers I'm getting.

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5/1/12 10:44 A

Hi guys, don't normally post but I'm kinda freaking out. For almost a year I've had the BS under control. It's been between 97-115 for FBS and after meals under 150. Last two weeks my sugar as been higher than normal FBS at 120-145 and after meals 198. I try to do almost every day at least 30min on my stationary bike. My eating habits although not great haven't changed. I tried a new battery in my meter and new pack of stripes and still higher than it's been.

Is it high cause im freaking out before I test my finger? I have been trying to exercise more, do I need to eat more? Do I need a med change?

medicine is
3 metaformin 1500mg total
1 actos 15mg

I don't want to change my meds... I'm doing my best to at least get off the Actos.
I see my doctor in june
last AIC in January was 6.1

Nothing has changed except riding my bike longer. Anyone know having any suggestions?
I know part of my issue is I want "normal numbers" not the diabetic numbers I'm getting.

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4/27/12 7:13 A

Hiya,
I'm starting over due to some health issues that got in the way with consistency..

I checked my sugar this morning 3x and im not that happy how the med works.. instead of bringing my glucose down it went right up.. so im not sure what this means..
Have to do a little more research and ask some questions...
Was 8,7.. after eating and taking (metformine 1000mg) went up to 11,4?????

I take 2500mg a day in total...

I have some plans for today to do 10 mins exercise with Coach Nicole.. walk to the shop and bike back and do some cleaning chores at home.... i will be testing throughout the day and in the evening relax with a healthy meal..

Then i will post how things go it might be quite late this evening or early morning..
success all in your goals..
Tisha

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4/19/12 11:28 A

Hang in there. You and your doctor will get your numbers under control. This is a infuriating disease. You can do it.

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4/10/12 10:49 P

My BS are so out of control right now, I've had a high of 540 and this was about 11:00 last night after I got off work. I think work is my big stressor and is causing this. My doctor suggested going up 5u. for the Levemir for morning and night, also for next weeks followup we will be talking about getting/using a pump.
getting kinda worried about this

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4/9/12 4:54 A

I can not ever get my BS down below 100. I am on insulin as well as metformin I had my A1C drop but blood sugars still high to me. I have just found out I have gum disease and I have issues with sinuses that I am having surgery for soon. I wonder if that is why my sigars are up.

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3/12/12 11:07 A

I also have the Dawn Effect. I try to eat a snack before bed that is a protein, otherwise it just does not work. I also walk at least 10,000 steps a day which helps alot. Do otyer exercise during the week also. Diabetes is such a stubborn disease.

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3/1/12 4:33 P

MIMISOCKS...I have the same problem...my A1C is coming down but my fasting blood sugar level was way too high. There must be something other than more meds....

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2/20/12 11:59 A

I had gestational diabetes (14 years ago) but it was controlled without meds...I dealt with midwives (one of the best decisions I have made.) I walked every day just about until I had my baby. My readings were prefect. But I had complications because of fybriods tumors not my diabetes. Best wishes on your journey.

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2/19/12 4:48 P

I have gestational diabetes and have been trying to get my fasting BS down. The Dr wants it below 90 and mine ranges between 105 and 120. I know that GD is different than Type II and the hormones from the placenta are driving this but if anyone has any tips for good evening snacks I would be interested. I am on insulin (Levemir) and my dosages has crept up from 48 to 63 units over the last 3 weeks (per the high risk OB). The OB says that the hormones should stabilize in the next week or so so maybe that will help?

I have tried yogurt, peanut butter and whole grain crackers, cheese and meat, protein bars recommended by my dietician, whole grain pasta, hard boiled eggs, just to name a few.

Thanks!
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2/17/12 7:33 A

Sorry girl it be's that way sometimes. My dr said they would try these meds and monitor me. If that does not work insulin could be next...My heart skipped a beat but you do what you have to in this battle. Since I have joined a gym my morning readings have dropped this was without the new meds....now today I will begin my new meds. I know the lows will creep in.

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2/17/12 7:14 A

Had A1C drawn, down from 8 to 7.2, BUT my am blood sugars are over 100 even with 2x daily Metformin, so Dr. increased to 850mg from 500 mg 2x a day! I was so hoping to not need medications in the first place and now it's increasing!!!!

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2/13/12 1:40 P

WOW just came from the dr and a1c used to be 6.6 not any more not it was 8.1 OMG. Dr placed on JANUVIA and ameryl still taking metformin. I am so glad I seen a new dr. She was very informative and caring. She took the time to explain things to me. She mentioned acto and advantia. I was not comfortable with actos cancer possible of the bladder and advantia heart problems. NO way. But I am glad that she is thinking of things new. WOW I am glad for my eraser...................LOL

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1/27/12 9:37 A

Hi There,..... if you can only eat canned fruit....make sure it is in its own natural juices or at least "Lite" canned fruit! With all your medical problems.... we know other medical conditions can affect your blood sugars! Even stress can affect your blood sugars! Try to eat lean proteins, and canned veggies if you can't eat fresh, and try to eat as healthy as you can, and do some mild exercising as much as you can...... even if it is only 15 min. a day.....just do a little something. Talk with your health care provider, and hopefully you will do very well!!! You can do it!! Good Luck!!!!

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1/26/12 10:57 A

my blood sugars have been out of whack since oct when i got my gallbladder taken out. my diet remains very selective- mostly starches. i have to get back to balanced meals, no snacking, etc. in addition to this surgery- i had issues w/my liver, pancreatitis, medication induced gastroparesis, and severe ibs (plus accompanying nausea, spasms, and reflux). so lets just say recovery has been and remains very interesting...i am on medication for the nausea, reflux, and spasms. i look 10 mos preggers- lol...i actually think the pancreatitis has returned. we have decided to go back to carb counting but right now my tummy doesnt like veggies or fruit except applesauce and canned peaches. oh well this is no fun but im just trying to take things one step at a time.

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1/21/12 11:39 A

Thank You sassy Nak!! My FBS was 114 this morning, a little higher, but, still under 120. I just need to keep at it, and keep trying!! Ready for spring so I can walk outside!! Thanks for the positive response, and I hope you are continuing to do well yourself!! we just have to hang in there, no one wins by giving up!! Have a good weekend!!

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1/21/12 10:42 A

SDWG just saw your post.

You are doing great and doing what it takes. It's funny how easily for some the motivation to succeed is because of our diagnosis. I know for me, nothing could motivate me the last few years to do anything good for myself but the minute I was told I had type 2, I was motivated right away!!

Keep up the good work!

I have done two of my three diabetes education classes and they are very helpful and I learn a little every class. I recommend taking them if you can.

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1/15/12 9:33 A

The last three mornings, my fbs has gone down,down,down!! YEA!! and I am not on any meds. This morning it was 108. not where it should be but, lower than the 120's where it has been!! So, I hope the last three mornings is a sign of good things to come! I have lost 13 lbs now, and hope to lose another 20-30! then I will be a HAPPY CAMPER!! and hopefully that will also help me to lower my blood sugars!! I am praying this will happen!! :)

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1/15/12 9:20 A

I hope things get better Sassy-Nak.

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1/8/12 7:17 P

Great news Bonnie!! Let us know how diabetes class is going and how you are doing with your morning fbs.

Best advice I can give is something that I can't follow. Do your best and don't be overly upset if your bs or fbs inexplicably raises slightly. Infection, hormones, stress, exercise are some of the other things (besides food) that will affect your bs.

work! Carol

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1/8/12 9:57 A

Thank you Carol and SDWG! I really appreciate the feedback!

It's ironic because this morning my FBS was 99. My doc wants it below 100 and I have only had a couple morning readings below 100 and today was one of them.

I think I am going to try to limit my dinnertime carbs. Last night I ate a very low carb/high protein dinner so maybe that helped.

Carol, I begin my diabetes ed classes this week. I am really looking forward to learning more about this condition.

SDWG, you are lucky to not be on meds. I hate taking any medications. You can win this battle so I'm told, with diet and exercise for some people. Keep up the good work!

Thanks again,
Bonnie

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1/7/12 10:01 P

Hi Sassy-Nak,
Dawn phenomena is something that causes most of us a struggle. Some suggestions are to limit the amount and types of carbs you eat at dinner. Carbs that are complex are better because they do not spike your bs. Just before bed eat 30 grams of complex carbs and 15 grams of protein. Beans seem to work well as a complex carb.

If you have not done so, I would suggest you have your dr. prescribe attendance at diabetes education. A diabetic nutritionist can assist you in learning about what foods to eat and when. The education was extremely helpful for me.

Please let us know how you are doing.

Best wishes! Carol

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1/7/12 8:16 P

Hi Sassy Nak,

I too have the same problem....my blood sugars during the day are pretty good, but, when I get up in the morning.... my fbs is high also --between 120-135. I am not on any meds at all...trying to do with just diet and exercise....... so far. I have tried eating protein right before I go to bed...sometimes it helps a little, and sometimes not. I don't have any good answers for you either. I joined our local weight watchers just the week (again) I am hoping by losing some weight that will help ALL my blood sugars come down!! Sorry for not replying right away!!

Hang in there...keep us posted!!

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1/7/12 7:40 P

I am disappointed. I thought this forum was supposed to be supportive and a good source of advice and support. Not one post to my question......is there a better thread to go to? Sorry to sound negative but I must be misled about the diabetic thread! I look to the experience of others to help.

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1/6/12 10:24 A

Hi all,

I need some ideas of what folks do to fight the "dawn phenomenon." I've heard to eat a late night snack. I tend to go to bed early so it's a long time between dinner and wake up time. I can't get my FBS down and am following my diabetic eating plan to a tee. I'm also exercising, but not every day like I am working towards. I find it totally unappealing to eat a snack before bed or to wake up and eat something in the middle of the night. I have never been a late night eater.

I'm going to force myself to try eating a late-night snack. What do you all eat and does it help for those of you who have the same problem?

Thanks for any advice.

Bonnie

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12/9/11 9:23 P

Best wishes

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12/9/11 6:18 P

A few other thoughts. I learned from "the Lady Mary" how important it is to weigh and measure your food, exercise daily to lower your bs and watch your portions. Also just a note on vegetarian - it could be high carbohydrate easily. High carbs = high bs.

Good luck! I know you can do it!

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12/9/11 1:51 P

No, I didn't know there was a class like that. I see her on January 3rd to review my 6 week A1C, so I will ask her then. Ok, so what I'm hearing is that this will take some time. I am changing my diet and gravitating toward a more vegetarian lifestyle, so we will see what all these changes will bring. Thank you both for your input!

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12/9/11 8:18 A

I admit it is a lot of work, but I just saw a woman on the oprah show dr oz was interviewing a woman who was only in her 30s on dilysis and had her leg below her knee amputated and and part of her foot in the other leg. She looked 60 instead of 30. She said when she was young she ate what she wanted and tried to compensate with insulin. That option is not an option.

Yes it a life style change. I had gestational diabetes too 1997. I went thur a widwife their clinic monitored my diabetes weekly, gave my a menu. I followed it and exercised until just right before I delivered my baby. They told me what could happen but I guess I dropped the ball right after I had my last baby. I did not listen. Now this is what I have to deal with. Keep moniting your food and exercise. Take that medication as prescribed. Ask for a diabetic class when you go back to the dr.

I've been diabetic for 12 years now. I was diagnosed in 2001. Put on ameryl lost some weight was taken off med. Was controlled by diet and exercise only until 2007. reading soaring again, (Going thur the change of life SLOWLY) placed on metformin 1000 one daily, and 2011 of June placed on glyride. I admit it is no picnic but you either control this beast or it will control you. Try and get over the unfairness...it be that way sometimes. You can do it do not give up. This team is very supportive and these folks know their stuff. I have cried on their shoulders many times. . I've decided to take my dr suggestion and go thur a weight loss program in June thur the hospital. If is offered to those of us who have asthma and diabetes. That way I will not only lose weight but my readings will not only be monitored me but the hosipial personnel too. If there is any weirdness with my diabetes they can help. If my reading are still high even if losing 20-40 pounds my dr will have to move and make a decision as what to do with these high mornings readings. This is not a game for me.

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12/8/11 6:09 P

Hi- When I was first diagnosed the doctor slowly increase my metformin. The Dr. started with t 2 and now take 4 metformin daily to bring your bs down slowly. He explained that while an endocrinologist will bring bs down immediately, he was more concerned with my overall health and the effects on my body.

Have you been to diabetes education class? If not, the doctor can prescribe it for you. It is extremely helpful in better understanding diabetes and how to manage your diet to keep you bs as even as possible.

Hang in there. It will get better.

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12/8/11 2:45 P

I was diagnosed just 2 weeks ago, with an A1C of 8.7 and fbs of 355. Since then, I've been put on Metformin, but my fbs is still between 190 and 210 in the mornings. I'm exercising, eliminating all sodas and sweets, avoiding breads... I go back the first week of January after another panel. It's a little frustrating to make so many changes and still have bs readings that put my brother in the hospital with chest pain and sweats! What can I expect in the upcoming weeks? Is this something that just takes more time? When I had gestational diabetes 10 years ago, my blood sugars were easily controlled.

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12/5/11 7:15 P

I did this for eight wks. and I do eat only whole grain excrpt one time before I started the dietmy sugar was no lower then 160 now ita generally between 70 and 95 the diet was an experiment and helped me figure out what I was doing wrong, I reserched the diet and made modifications

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12/5/11 2:40 P

Using liquid or nutritional drinks would NEVER work for me. I like to taste and chew and I like to feel satisfied when I eat. Satisfied not too full but not hungry either. I do eat whole grains this includes whole wheat pasta. I try and limit the bready carbs. Sometimes I am on target and then there are the other times. I do not believe no luck but I will pray for your success. We all have to work at own journey. They may take us in different ways but we are still on the same road. Prayers indeed.........

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12/5/11 1:56 P

I went on the diabetic cure diet and it brought my numbers way down and I lost 16 lbs. the swelling went down in my l. foot I stayed on yhe diet 8 wks, but when I added bread and pasta to my diet my foot swelled again , so I'm back to 2 nutrition drinks aday and no bread
Wish me luck

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12/5/11 10:55 A

I love learning all about this disease and how it affects us differently. Morning reading are extremely high tried eating only protein. Can not have bread or fruit for a night time snack or I soar even higher. I got my a1c it was 6.6. Higher than it was before. All dr can say is it weight related. I am sick of hearing that speech. Nevertheless I will be down 20 pounds by this upcoming march 2012 (my personal goal) and I will see what he will say when or if the readings are still elevated. I am asking for a referral to see an endo. PERIOD!

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10/23/11 9:45 A

Hi I'm a grandma also and I'm 61 , my bg was almost always high then I heard about the diabetes cure diet and researched it
you eat 600 cal.(I eat 1000 cal.) but I don't eat starchy food no squash, no milk
I eat non starch veg. soy milk or coconut milk you can have cottage cheese any cheese, sour cream just no milk
I started sept.12 and lost 15 lbs.and my readings on 9/12 were 165 and a week later 92 and now they average 70, 75 I gave my self eight wks. to see a change
PS I drink nutritional shakes for breakfast and lunch and a meal for supper
I hope this helps

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10/22/11 8:52 P

Dear lady, NEVER self-adjust oral meds! First, you wouldn't do it based on a single high reading, there needs to be a consistent pattern to indicate a change is necessary, and second, you need your doctor's help with that anyway! A lot of things can affect the readings you get: It may just be stress... as in worrying too much, or as in a physical stress like a virus or germ you've been exposed to. Even a minor pain like a hangnail can raise numbers! You do need to be careful, but no need to go overboard either! If it STAYS up there, and doesn't change, and you can't account for it, THEN worry, THEN call your doctor for some advice--and of course you can ask us any time.... OK?

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10/22/11 9:36 A

Scary thing yesterday - I went out to eat, which I almost never do and had a salad with chicken. I did not have my evening Metformin with me and was sort of curious about what would happen if I didn't take it since lettuce was the only carb I ate. Two hours after dinner my BG was a whopping 343. Ouch! That's at least twice as high that it's ever been.

Took my pills and an hour later my BG was 98. Maybe I had a bad strip? I don't know but I'm going to talk with my doctor before I (1) go without my pills and (2) eat out again!

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10/20/11 10:47 A

my bs was 154 this morning, the highest it has ever been. Even after breakefast, meds, 1 hr of exercise and testing again 2hrs later, it is still high for me at 148. Is this a sign I need a medication adjustment? I take 500mg Metformin 1x daily and usually don't go over the Spark "D" carb recommendations. What else can I do?

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10/7/11 6:06 P

Each day I am learning more about this disease and how it affects me. My bs tends to drop after exercise, even if I eat something before. I guess the lesson I have to learn is to break my exercise sessions up and not go more than 30-40 min at a time. It's hard to stop once I get my momentum going, but If I don't want to pass out in the gym, I better heed the shaky feeling that comes from the low bs.

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10/6/11 9:39 P

Amy, it happens to all of us somewhere along the way, and your friend who advised you did just right!

The thing most people DON'T know is that you don't have to have your blood sugar drop too low for it to happen. It just has to drop too far too fast! I had the reaction once and checked my BGL and it was 200--but it had been over a hundred points higher and was coming down too quickly for my body to deal with it!

You should purchase some glucose tablets or gel to carry with you for future incidents. Relion (a Walmart brand) has a little keychain that holds four glucose tablets, and they sell a decent sized bottle of tablets for about $4. They keep just about forever, and two to four are usually all you need to get you out of the reaction long enough to find a small snack or eat a meal--which should then include protein so it will last you a while!

Do keep asking questions, that's how you learn this stuff! LOL

You're doing

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10/4/11 11:12 A

Please don't be afraid to go on insulin. What most diabetics resist accepting is that diabetes is a progressive disease. I've been on insulin for 15 years, and I was very against taking it at first. I considered it the mark of a failure, but it isn't. No diabetic is the same, and you just can't compare yourself to someone else. Read everything you can about it, and be very well informed the next time you see your doctor.

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10/3/11 3:49 P

I've had that happen to me a couple of times at work. Once I tested my sugar when it happened and it was 64. After drinking some coke I was "normal" again. Hasn't happened again - don't think I'd eaten enough that day - was around 3PM when it happened to me and I can tell you this...I didn't like it one little bit!

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9/27/11 10:17 P

Hi All,
I had a weird thing happen today. I was fine all day. Ate breakfast, and ate lunch but around 1:30pm, I started to feel shakey and then my heart started to beat really fast and I felt faint. I didnt have my meter to check my bs, but my dads fiance told me to eat/drink something with sugar in it quickly. I did so and a few minutes later I felt fine. I have always been high...my sugars have but for some reason after lunch they dropped really low that it affected me that way. Anyone have this issue? When I tested this morning my sugars were 135 or so. Should I call my doctor or should I wait and see if it happens again? I am just hoping it was a one time fluke thing. I didnt exercise at all before hand, but about 1 1/2 hour afterwards I went to the gym and I was fine during the whole thing. And have been fine the rest of the day. Any advice or anything?
Thanks and God Bless!
Amy

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9/25/11 3:50 P

Kathy: I'm seeing a GP, but he has a lot of diabetes patients. I'm the one resisting being put on insulin. I was just wondering what other's expeirence had been. Thank you for your reply.

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9/25/11 3:15 P

P.S. Are you seeing an endocrinologist, or a GP? I never heard of a diabetic doctor who hadn't heard how to deal with this...

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9/25/11 3:11 P

It sounds to me like another case of Simogyi effect, aka the "dawn phenomenon". When you don't eat for a while, your brain sends signals to your liver to release the glucose that is stored there for emergencies. The problem is, with diabetics a lot of times there is an overreaction, and you end up with more in your system than you need. You don't eat when you're asleep--at least, MOST people don't! LOL--and your body interprets that as an emergency.

That's why diabetics need to have a regular eating schedule, the same times every day, no skipping meals allowed, so the body doesn't go into emergency mode... and it's also why a great many diabetics need to eat a small protein and carb snack at bedtime--so there is something in your system for your body to work on while you sleep.

I know, I know, it's sounds counter-intuitive, but try it. Just take a small portion of dinner and set it aside to be eaten before you go to bed. If that ISN'T the problem, you haven't done any damage to your eating regimen, and if it IS... well, problem solved--and no medication needed!

Just be sure to keep it light: a half cup of cottage cheese, or pieces of apple dipped in peanut butter... half a cup of your dinner entree... you get the idea. About 15 grams of carbs, and an ounce or so of protein is usually all it takes.

Let us know if it works, okay?
Kathy

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9/25/11 7:57 A

Is anyone taking insulin at night to help lower fbs levels in the morning. My morning glucose reading is always higher than normal, but by noon time it is acceptable and stays that way the rest of the day. When I saw my doctor last week he was concerned about this. Said it is hard on the system and also cannot be controlled by medication. I had my AIC bloodwork done last week and will see the Dr. this week for the results. We will discuss this night time insulin again at that time.

If you have experienced this I could use your advice. Does it help? Do you feel more energetic in the morning? Does it slow down weight loss? I've heard that taking insulin will slow down weight loss.

I really appreciate any feedback you can give.

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9/21/11 10:20 P

That is , Amy!

Isn't this FUN? LOL

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9/21/11 4:00 P

Doctor called me today with A1C results. It went from 11.2 to 8.7 in 2 months! YAY! She was thrilled I lowered it so much. She said to keep up the exercising and dieting and I should be at 7 before I know it! Thank you for your support.
God Bless!
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9/16/11 3:14 P

fbs was 99 @ 0900.

Now if I could just get off this &$% plateau.

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