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twin: noun, adjective, verb, twinned, twin·ning.
noun:1. either of two children or animals brought forth at a birth.

Just call it a LITTER and be done with it!!! emoticon

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11/27/12 11:20 A

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Now you're getting into dangerous territory. Keep the Baltimore Sun , NYT and Phila. Inquirer crosswords out of this. The person who made the crossword and the person who edited it had to agree, so you have to accept their definition for their crossword...otherwise you will screw up the whole thing.

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11/26/12 7:41 P

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Still, even Mom would get it right on occasion.

I was doing a the Baltimore Sun crossword and I saw an opportunity. She is a big Sun crossword fan. So I called her.

"Mom, I'm really stuck here. Can you help me with 42 across?"
"Sure, let me get it. 42 across. Three letter word for 'pair of twins.' What's the problem?"
"'Four' doesn't fit."

She called me a bad word and hung up on me.

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11/26/12 7:30 P

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The family (and we are a big one) often goes round and round on this one. Dad would bring it up because he knew it would push Mom's buttons. Then we kids would get into it too.

Great fun.

Mom's answer was always the knee jerk "four" in her Captain Obvious voice. Her back up? "I have asked math teachers and English teachers and they say four."

Yeah that answer is full of logic. Not!

Dad would pull out the old Webster.

pair: noun, plural pairs; pair, verb.
noun: 1. two identical, similar, or corresponding things that are matched for use together: a pair of gloves; a pair of earrings.
2. something consisting of or regarded as having two parts or pieces joined together: a pair of scissors; a pair of slacks.
3. two individuals who are similar or in some way associated: a pair of liars; a pair of seal pups.

twin: noun, adjective, verb, twinned, twin·ning.
noun:1. either of two children or animals brought forth at a birth.
2. either of two persons or things closely related to or closely resembling each other.

So!

A pair is two individuals or things. A pair of idiots, a pair of liars, a pair of dice, a pair of aces
A twin is one individual that is closely matched to another individual.

A pair of twins is two individuals who belong to a closely matched set.

Think of it this way. For the sake of argument, you have a twin sister and I have a twin sister. Each of us is a twin. We are a pair of twins.

Or as Dad put it, "A pair is two things that come in twos. A twin is one of two things that come in twos. A pair of twins is two of one of two things that come in twos. Therefore: a pair of twins is two."

Mom's response was "No! A set of twins is two. So a pair of twins is four."
Dad: "A pair of sets of twins is four. A pair of twins if two. I never asked about sets of twins."

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Edited by: TIMOTHYNOHE at: 11/26/2012 (19:33)
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11/26/12 7:17 P

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Hmm .... I think a "pair" of twins is like a "set" of twins - that is - 2. I know the link I posted said otherwise, but a twin is a person who happens to have a twin. So a "pair" or twins would be two people who are both twins, right?

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11/26/12 6:48 P

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I googled it and got many arguments on both sides:

answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid
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Catiatm, that puts a whole new spin on it. A pair of pants is how many pants? Hmm, I still thing a pair of twins is the incorrect way of saying twins. I've always heard it as a "set" of twins


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Just for fun

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Maybe a dictionary would help. (Do they still have those things in book form?)

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Perhaps suggest a basic math class

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It has been known to erupt into high pitched arguing in favor of a knee jerk answer and the other side being so obstinately stubborn about relying on logic an what words actually mean.

So Debby, knee jerk or logic?

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Your family really argues over this?

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I agree...4...a no brainer...

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ditto ...... a set is 1 pair I have a set of twins.... people would always say to me she has 2 sets of twins..... no only 1 set!



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How many is a pair of twins?

GO!

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