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SHIVAMOON
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It's a non-fermented soy sauce and in this case MSG is not added to the sauce, it is a natural chemical process that occurs in the making. For that reason, you won't see MSG in the ingredient list. You could find a more scientific explanation of how this happens on-line if you were interested, just type in Bragg's Liquid Aminos MSG, but that's as good as I can offer. Actually, regular soy sauces are generally fermented...I'm happy with what I can buy in the store.


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As I've said, I don't know whether the liquid aminos are even available here (Belgium), so I don't miss them. I'm kind of wary of anything with chemicals in it and MSG and Aspartame are top of my list to avoid. But it seems to me there might even be a way of making home made (and therefore MSG free) "liquid aminos"? If it's fermented soy sauce it seems like it should be possible.


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I've been rethinking this over time and don't really think using Bragg's in small quantities is all that bad. Small quantities are the key.


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Hi Gardyloo,
Thanks for the cheesy sauce recipe. I'll be trying it soon.

Bragg's Liquid Aminos are a non-fermented type of soy sauce -- so that's where the cheesy flavor comes from when combined with nut. yeast.


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Hello! I've been reading over this thread and I was especially intrigued by the whole liquid amino thing - I don't live in the US and I've never even heard of it, but the good news is, I've never missed it either! emoticon Well now that I've heard of it then a few second later learned it had MSG, I guess that's just as well.

To the original post about nutritional yeast flakes: I don't find that they taste particularly "cheesy" on their own, but you can make a very cheesy taste by combining them with miso paste and a splash of soy sauce.

And if it's a cheesy flavor you're after, a quick and easy (and raw!) way is to combine cashew nuts, paprika (also called "bell pepper"), lemon juice, salt, black pepper and a bit of cumin powder in a blender. Very good on raw carrot slices!


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You'll be happy with the results :~)


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ShivaMoon I don't use cumin but I was thinking that is the missing ingredient. I have to go and buy some.

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Do you use cumin? I find cumin to be absolutely essential for hummusy tasting hummus.


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thanks ShivaMoon. I did not think of using nutritional yeast in my hummus. I just made a batch today that came out better than the last time. I am still tweaking my hummus, I cannot seem to get it to taste like the Sabra ones but I was pleased with the batch I made today :) it sounds like a great idea to try.

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Of course you can. Sometimes I spray soy sauce (tamari, shoyu, sometimes Bragg's) lightly on my veggies and sprinkle on some nutritional yeast. When I make hummus I put nutritional yeast in the mix, it adds a nice flavor (I don't measure, but equiv of about 1/4 C yeast to 2 C beans.) Experiment. There are many ways to use it. Hope you enjoy it.


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Hi all. I am a new Vegan [about a month now and counting thank you] and just ordered some nutritional yeast from Amazon myself. [I think it is the NOW brands one; I chose it because the label says it has B12 added to it and sometimes I forget to take my vegan B12 supplement] I am hoping to make good use of it and would love some other ways of using it besides on air popped corn or pizza [no cheese of course]. I was thinking maybe I could use it on salad or steamed veggies or maybe a baked potato/sweet potato. emoticon

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Bragg's is made from soy. The "benefit" was supposed to be that it was not fermented (but I've learned so much since then. Fermented foods can be very good for you.) Here's Jaz's Coconut Aminos link so you won't have to go looking for it:

www.coconutsecret.com/aminos2.html

Jaz, you just made my day. It's so nice to see you back!


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Jasmin, I think the difference between Aminos and Soy Sauce is microscopic--at leat to "my" taste buds! First time I bought it I paid a lot for it...then taste tested it and went, "For goodness sakes--it taste just like soy sauce! I could have saved several dollars and just bought some soy sauce!"

So taste wise, I don't see much difference at all. But I guess soy sauce does not have the MSG in it, so it would be the better choice.

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Hi beautiful friends.... darling Shiva, I also so sad to hear about the msg in Braggs aminos. I did however hear, in passing, that it was "very artificial”...

When I reflect, and maybe someone can enlighten me.... what is the benefit of the liquid aminos? Is it made from soy, like soy sauce? So it’s obviously not for soy allergies.

To me, and this is only my opinion... when we use these items because we are "100% raw" and this is a "raw" product we venture into "micro raw vegans"... I think the traditional soy sauce is a better option...?

Again please let me know if I am missing something! Coincidentally, I just posted a link to coconut aminos.... I assume, because it is non-fermented, it also has MSG.

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Christie, when I first started eating vegan three years ago, I had "fresh new taste buds" to vegan food, and I was amazed at what little difference there was between the taste of Braggs and the taste of soy sauce. In my opinion soy sauce could easily replace Braggs in recipes.

But after being vegan for a while, I could tell there is a "mild" difference in taste. For instance, I used to love using Braggs sprayed on air popped popcorn and didn't like soy sauce on it (Braggs had a more "buttery" taste to it, I thought).

But like I say, for me the difference still is tiny. I've also choose to stop using Braggs after hearing of the MSG thing and only use soy sauce now.

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What do you buy instead of Braggs?

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About a decade ago I went to a lecture given by Patricia Bragg (Paul Bragg's daughter and the woman who's pictured on the products.) She went on and on about the virtues of her non-fermented soy sauce and the low sodium in her product. I took her at her word and not till some years later did I compare the sodium levels with other soy sauce products (surprise!) But , oh my the msg. I remember that little tag saying "no msg" and I believed it. (Note to those who didn't go to PattK's link: the process used for creating the non-fermented product produces MSG. As it is "naturally occurring" they do not have to list this on the label, but were forced to remove the cute little tag saying "no msg."

Sigh, I feel so lied to, and it was right to my face, too.


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I was disappointed, too. My lesson learned was to read labels of everything, even products I've been buying for many years such as Braggs.

Patt in Minneapolis
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SHIVAMOON
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MSG, that's awful. I've been using Bragg's a long time and just bought more (it was on sale.) I'll have to start changing my ways. Sigh.

Thanks PattK

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SHIVAMOON
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Thank you. I'll definitely look into that.


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This is a discussion on a McDougall forum - one of the culprits in Braggs, aside from high sodium, is MSG www.drmcdougall.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t
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Another problem is hydrochloric acid is used in processing instead of traditional natural soy sauce fermentation processes that require more time. Here's some discussion from a few years ago; everything recent is very buried. theashbulletin.blogspot.com/2011/02/danger
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This post doesn't have articles, etc. quoted; but it minces no words stoneglasgow.blogspot.com/2011/04/bragg-li
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Sorry! I wish I could. This came up in a broader discussion about ingredients, so I can't point to a specific ingredient in Braggs. The labeling misdirection was so off putting to me on top of that discussion that I just won't use the product any more. As I recall, Braggs acts like MSG in the body; but don't quote me on that. I'll do some research when I have time and post what I find.

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What do you mean by addictive elements, PattK? Can you be more specific?

Thanks.


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Yum! I love nooch! Braggs users, look at the serving size! Braggs uses 1/2 tsp as its serving size for nutritional stats instead of 1 Tbsp like soy sauce. Kikkoman Less Sodium Soy Sauce has 575 mg of sodium in 1 Tbsp. Braggs has 160 mg sodium in 1/2 tsp which works out to be 960 mg in 1 Tbsp. Kikkoman Organic Soy Sauce has 1000 mg sodium in 1 Tbsp - pretty much the same as Braggs. I've heard negative things about Braggs and addictive elements from some chefs recently, so I have removed it from my house.

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I've not tried nut. yeast yet on a meat eater, but I suspect you are totally right about that, because I remember when I first used it I wasn't that impressed with it, but by the second time I used it I was liking it.

I had never heard that the yeast is high in protien, though--good to know!

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If you feed nutritional yeast to an omnivore, they generally don't think it tastes that cheesy, but I think it tastes cheesy enough.

I like it because it's quite high protein - if you use 'faux vegan cheese', as well as being high in fat and salt, it doesn't tend to give you much in the way of protein. In that way, I think that nutritional yeast is a better replacement for cheese in a recipe (nutritionally speaking).

My supermarket stocks it (with the health foods, organic foods and gluten free products), and I can also get it at the organic shop, a vitamin/supplements shop, and a bulk bin place. So there may be somewhere near you that sells it.

Some brands (but not all) are fortified with vitamin B12, so if you don't take a supplement it might be worth keeping your eyes open for one of them.

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I've been known to go into a panic when I'm low on nutritional yeast----I love that stuff!

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I haven't used it yet, but I keep threatening to order some from Amazon. I don't know how the price compares to other websites, but they have it.

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Yes, I've discovered Braggs and I love it. It is easy to get too. Even my hubby has switched over to it.



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Hi Bab, I use nutritional yeast and get it from the bulk bins at a local health food store. Make sure you don't get brewer's yeast by mistake. Nutritional yeast is yellowish and comes in powder or flakes. I like the flakes best. To me, it has a slightly nutty/cheesy flavor. I use Bragg's liquid aminos (which is similar to soy sauce, but with less sodium.) by spraying the Bragg's on my veggies (or air popped popcorn) and sprinkling some nut.yeast on top. Like for Terry, it's become one of my have to have ingredients.


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Hi Bab, I had never heard of nutritional yeast before becoming vegan 3 years ago, either. New one on me! I bought some at Whole Foods (which is not near me) and now it's one of those "have to have" ingredients for me.

Does it taste like cheese? Well, it certainly smells like cheese when you sniff it, and it can add a cheesy taste to things when mixed with it (like spagetti sauce). It's not cheese, though---more of a "recipe ingredient" to add a cheesy taste to things. For instance, you can sprinkle it on top of pizza to replace the cheese but it's not so great that way. But if you stir it into the pizza sauce it will give it a cheesy flavor.

I'm sure you could order it on-line, though I'm not sure where at, since I rarely order vegan foods on-line. Maybe somebody else here can suggest a good website.

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Hi, I'm new at this. I just got a cookbook called the Veganomicon. It is really interesting. I'm getting lots of good ideas. One of the ingredients that I've never heard of before is nutritional yeast. I googled it and the say you can get it at Whole Foods, it is available on line too.

Does any one use it? Does it really taste like cheese?


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