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11/16/12 2:31 P

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I'm already North enough I think, if the growing season gets too short it may be hard to raise enough food...
Anyway my plan is to head onto the water, safer than land.

Those talking about cold, unless your talking WAY north you do realize the zombie event could start in the summer?

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But what if they then created zombie-sharks? I'm not okay with that. lol I'm officially going North and I'm already pretty North in Connecticut. Canada sounds great.

And being that I was raised canning food for the winter, I'm not concerned on that front. I will head to less populations of survivors or zombies, tyvm. Me and forest are good friends.

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Steal two boats (one motor, one sail) destroy the bridge and head out to Key West.
Secure the island.
Stockpile gas and food.
Easy-peasy.

You do make a good point, DSD, as to whether zombies could survive a walk in the ocean, which, if they could, would certainly limit the effectiveness of my plan. However, I believe that the living dead, while potentially able to survive a walk across the ocean floor, would still be at the mercy of the ocean tides, as well as ocean predators. Plus, I would think their ability to smell humans would be greatly impaired underwater.

So, the idea is, yes, they might be able to walk underwater, but effectively navigating under the seas? Highly unlikely in my book.

The Key West plan remains!
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Lots of things already out there to think about! I always assumed that heat would help decompose Zombies, but apparently they don't think so on "Walking Dead." They are in Georgia and those mother truckers seem to keep coming....

My musings about disaster usually surround an EMP strikes ever since I read the book "One Second After." That scares me more than Zombies (sorry, but it does...can I stay and play?!)

I agree 100% with BELLASARAH28 about the south. Predicted "Kill" rates in any disaster for regular old humans sans Zombies are usually much higher in the deep south because our air-conditioned a$$e$ are not used to hard physical labor in killer temps. I've lived in AL and SC. Try running from a Zombie in 98 degree temps with 70% humidity. Add the adrenalin from fear and most of us (me included) would probably pass out or have a heart attack pretty darn quick. So south is out for me.

Also remember that anyone who relies on medicine to live would probably die within the first 1-3 months. Think of anyone in your life that is a heart patient, diabetic, has high blood pressure or is asthmatic. Dead....or undead as the case may be....

We live in the north now and I would stay here and make my stand. Who ever survives would have to band together to fight off Zombies AND desperate people alike. Being an isolationist does not make sense in a disaster. I have friends and family here. I know my all my neighbors and they know me. I know just about everyone who is nurse, doctor, beekeeper or farmer within a 2 mile radius of my house. I belong to local gun clubs. I know the terrain and where the stores, warehouse, rivers and lakes are. I don’t stock pile food or water to excess, but we have an above ground pool in the back yard that would come in handy as do many of my neigbors and I am prepared with a decent amount of weapons, ammunition, medicine and survival gear (read camping equipment and some military gear!) to use or trade in the short term.

In the long term, I agree that we would all be screwed. emoticon

And I agree that we need a Zombie emoticon!

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6/7/12 12:01 P

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We were in the West Indies on vacation (Nevis), and some of the islands there are really isolated. I'm back to thinking south might be best.

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11/29/11 3:44 P

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I have read books where Hawaii was a safe zone. Problem is tho, zombies don't need to breathe. So I'm not sure an island is safe.
After having been out west at a ranch for vacation, I'm starting to think Arizona/Nevada might not be bad. You have all sorts of natural defenses. Like canyons and bobcats.

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11/23/11 11:36 A

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Hmmm...I wonder.... Would islands be safe from the zombie attack? What about Hawaii? Do you think they'd let outsiders on the island or would they be protective of their limited resources? I'm guessing they would fight outsiders off...if you could even get there in the first place (I'm thinking of whole cruise ships filled with zombies -can't highjack one of those!)

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Nice plan!

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11/9/11 5:31 A

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I think I'm already far enough North- Fairbanks AK... unfortunately a fairly large population base, but fortunately a LOT of green/alternate energy sources to scavenge from so that when the grid collapses, the fortress will still be going strong. Probably stay here for 2-3 years, then head south to where food can be easily grown/maintained as most of the zombie wars should have calmed and the rot of the undead decomposing to the point they are not the major threat anymore- but only assuming that is how they respond, and wildlife in unaffected. If the wildlife becomes zombified too, or the zombies aren't rotting away during summer months up here- then I'm staying put, or maybe moving to an out of the way hot springs but taking a lot of town supplies with me, year 2 maybe?

(see my post in 'your survival plan about my fortress)

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10/17/11 10:51 P

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Definitely north, it's no contest. Less population = less zombies. Colder climate = food lasts longer. Easier to get warm without electricity than to get cool. Even if you don't know yourself, your chances of finding someone who can live off the land is much higher in the north where they have to do more of that anyway. And the chances they are already zombified is also lower.

The food situation is going to depend a lot on whether wildlife is also zombified. If it isn't, score another for the north (less population = more wildlife). If it is... We're probably all screwed anyway no matter where you go...

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I would go North... South (and West) has too many religious radicals and cults.. Then you have to fight off the living and the dead... But not too north... I dont think I want to live in a world surrounded by Canadian Zombies...

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Living in the South, I would definitely head north.

1. You can only grow certain foods down here in this sandy soil. And there are still seasons. Mainly hot, hotter, hell and two weeks of 50 degrees. Doesn't make for ideal growing conditions. Unless you could live off of oranges.
2. Lots of areas in the south, especially where I am in South Florida, are more prone to natural disasters - hurricanes, especially. It would suck to build your anti-zombie fortress and have it knocked down by a storm.
3. Wildlife - alligators, spiders, snakes, fire ants, scorpions, cockroaches. And then sharks and what-not in the ocean. Add zombies on top of that. No, thanks.
4. Weather - it's always friggin hot down here. There's no way I could outrun a zombie at noon in August. I'd die of heat exhaustion.
5. Accessibility - Depends on where you are in the south, it might make it hard to get in and out. FL, for example - there aren't many ways you can go without hitting water.
6. Assessing the power situation. As in Walking Dead, there's little to no electricity so refrigeration of food becomes a problem. Not so in PA in December. Snow = instant refrigerator. Plus you can always use fire to get warm. There's not much you can do without electricity to get cold once you're hot.
7. Topography - it's flat here. Not much by way of natural shelters. Generally no outcroppings or rock formations. Higher ground is relatively non-existent. Plus it's below sea level, and with rising ocean levels it doesn't bode well.

But I do see a couple benefits of south over north. One being that with the oceans close by, you can always eat fish. I imagine deer and other animals will become scarce in the north eventually.
And the heat aiding decomp is a good point.

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There are still some bad points:

If we're the only ones that have survived then it's fine. But if there are others, there's really no place to hide from hostiles unless you're in the mountains. You also need to be careful of poisonous reptiles and bugs because you don't have access to anti-venom.

I would also think the heat would help accelerate any decomposition making it easier to get through flesh and/or bone.

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You make a good point. Being out in the relative open is good because you will be able to see anything coming at you, whether it be the Undead or marauders. The idea is to stay alive so as lone as we all have a good plan and they work, we're still ahead of the Undead!

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Midland to the south. I grew up in Arizona and as long as you know how and where to get water you can survive out there. I also like that it would be more out in the open. Leaves little room for surprises.

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Are you kidding me?? Toronto is considered WAY north to "you" people?? C'mon you need to get out more LOL I live in the country yes but I am only 45 minutes Northeast of Toronto by car. The best of both worlds as I like to think. As for their being more country to the North of me, HECK YA!!! LOL I live in Southern Ontario. Northern Ontario and well Northern Canada as a whole is mainly untapped wilderness. People do live up there but are pretty much cut off from things because there are no roads that lead in or out. Supplies have to be flown in and out at regular intervals.

I'm not sure that is where I would head because that would be too far but there are lots of small towns at the end of small little roads that would be perfect.

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But Julie, where you are now is considered WAY north for some of us. You mean there is more North up there?

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I would still head north. Sure warmer is better on the body but when you look at population densities they tend to be higher in warmer temperatures. To me, that means more food for the Undead. Having said that, a higher temperature will help speed up decomposition but they'll still be a problem while that's going on. Bodies freeze solid in colder temperatures and will slow down as that is happening. Makes them fairly easy to pick off if you need to. I'm not talking about going to the extreme north but far enough that the terrain would make it difficult for them to follow for a while and then likely not get as far before they can be picked off. I'd still remain within the tree line so that you would get all four seasons, rely on hunting and foraging for food, clothing. A cabin on a high vantage point looks mighty good to me!

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Tropical zombies? hehehe

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We have to avoid the cities as much as possible as that is where the highest concentration of zombies will be. Maybe find a small town, clear it out and fortify. I don't know if zombies will have enough cunning to go road tripping in search of food, I'm thinking not.

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True... but which city will be swarmed first... Atlanta or Anchorage?

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I vote South. With the warmer weather you would have a longer growing season and the heat would make the zombies decompose faster. You should also be able to smell them from further way, possibly before you could see them coming. I think in the north it would be harder to lay food aside for the winter & would help preserve the zombies longer.

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I think I would be in favor of warmer climate for my own survival. However, I would pack along my Zombie Survival Guide and find a good fortress that I could secure close to natural sources of food.

Going North would be non-favorable for weather and yes, may affect zombies, but that being said, it would also be for more difficult foraging for humans as well.

I don't know. I'll think a little bit more on this one...

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I would think you'd be more likely to find food if you head south... or maybe even a farm you could secure.
But if you go north, I would imagine the cold weather will have an impact on zombie mobility.

Thoughts?

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