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10/14/13 8:38 P

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I would love to find an active team that supports/uses the WW program --- anyone here who wants to join me? Is there anything I can do to help this one become more active?

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10/13/13 3:07 P

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I'm always looking for new recipes for soups, salads and desserts ---- anyone have any suggestions?!?!?!

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3/21/13 8:45 P

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Night time snacking and also not being hungry after 11:30pm are my downfalls as is leaving behind too many points.

Lately though, with my mother undergoing chemotherapy I have been eating more...but, my exercise has suffered.

I weigh in as a life member tomorrow and need suggestions on low points plus (and very cheap priced) items to buy at the grocery?.

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7/27/11 7:29 P

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I get the exercise in...tracking is another story. It was so easy to do when I started WW in May of 2007 but now it's like I'm just not motivated to do so - evenings anyway!


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7/27/11 7:28 P

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Struggling with tracking. Do good at work then I get home and that ends the tracking on many days...trying to follow spark people menus.

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7/18/11 7:42 A

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EXERCISE!!!!

I hate to sound crude but anything that makes me breath heavy, besides sex, is too much work. I am totally non motivated. Still losing so may have to re think my position.

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7/16/11 8:47 A

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Portion control!

...and my scale is gathering cobwebs.

Gotta get back into a routine. Realistically, maybe that's an after-wedding goal. The first guests start arriving Wednesday. We're moving to the hotel on Thursday. Wedding on Friday.

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7/3/11 8:27 P

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It feels like I'm struggling with everything related to losing weight. Lol. Evenings and weekends are hard times for me because I don't have the structure I have during the days when I'm at work. It actually feels like the idea of dieting makes me hungrier, and I think I read somewhere that the diet mentality of deprivation does make you hungry, and so you should eat whenever you''re hungry and stop when you're full. The problem with that is that I've been on so many diets and off so many diets that the notion of full to me is completely skewed, I'm either nauseated or still hungry. I hate exercise, I walk all day at work and by the time I get home I literally can't hold my eyes open and I just want to crash on the couch. So that's my whine-fest for today.

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OK--So it's not on-topic, and I apologize, but what I'm struggling with is the guest list for my daughter's wedding. Can everyone just get me the missing addresses and, for crying out loud, I'm begging you, proofread your own people's names--it can't be "Joe" on one list and "Joel" on another. And if there's still a question mark instead of someone's wife's name, it's time to figure out what the lady's name is.

Argghh!

There. Thank you. I feel better.

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5/18/11 10:40 P

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Shantodd420 - if you are using a smartphone or iPod there are a lot of apps that you can set to the last plan that will help you track points. There are also quite a few websites that have on-line calculators. Some of the apps for iPod are iWatchr, Edibles, and iFigure. I have all of them (I'm somewhat of an app freak :-) and like edibles the best (although it requires some setup). I can't think of the websites off the top of my head, however, if you search weight watchers points calculator a bunch of sites pop up. Good luck

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Still trying to figure out how to modify it to me. I have only done points and points plus now. I got rid of my old material and figured I should have saved lessoned learn.

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5/18/11 2:46 P

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SHANTODD420 - You are not alone in struggling with the new plan! Have you already started to modify it to work better for you? Some are using Momentum again and others have started to modify PP to work for them. Whatever way you choose to go to find the plan that works best for you, you CAN do this!!! :-)

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Okay all you ww that are really getting this new plan. I am really struggling and I am gaining weigh back and not liking it.

So far today i have had a bowl of mulitgrain cheerios with a banana, and a cup of milk.

Snack bar and cheese. Then lunch had fruit salad, carrots, dips, and a burger with no bun, cheese, and ketchup cooked in olive oil. Dinner will be spaghetti with ground turkey, garlic bread, and side salad.

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Haha, Puma, I have noticed the similarities between us are pretty striking,even down to the love we have for our kitties. It is such a comfort to know you're there. :) Yep, I was always 'trying' to have an eating disorder. I, too, was like "what the freak am I doing??" when I was trying, but when it didn't 'work', I felt like a failure. How sick is THAT? I am so glad, looking back, that I was never successful because who knows if it would have taken hold, and landed me in the hospital or something?? SO glad you only did that a handful of times before you were like "forget this!". Doesn't mean the messed-up head is any better, but it's still something to be grateful for. It's true, without a diagnosis, I have always felt like a 'faker' or something, lol. But I don't need one to know I gots issues, so what would a diagnosis do? Haha, i love you too, girl! For real!

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kafox (is it kelly? i see jennie said kelly?) that's what i'm studying to be! a school counselor!!! i'm in my elementary internship right now. loving the atmosphere of it, tho haven't gotten to actually see a client yet cuz of so many snow days and waiting for consent forms to be returned (since i have to video tape each session for my professor and training tips, i need consent forms, booo).

jennie, seriously, i feel like we're the same person. you could be telling my story right there. i also, very sadly, "tried" to get myself into a purging method back in senior year of high school/early college, and i was like what the FREAK am i doing?! i HATE throwing up!!! i really only "succeeded" about 6-10 times before i came to my senses. imagine that, "TRYING" to get an eating disorder. good grief. i think that in itself makes some kind of disordered eating, that's for sure!! so i agree, sometimes it's harder to not have a "real" diagnosis, but just be kind of screwed up mentally about food. i've never really known what it's like to eat to live, because i've always been live to eat. i love you girl!!!!!

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Awwww, I'm glad I helped! I was really hoping what I wanted to say would come through, and I guess it did! It is SO hard to be objective when it's you. I listen to the advice I give others and think "why can't I follow this, myself?" but it helps me to help others. Eventually what I'm saying seems to sink in and I start being kinder to myself. So you and Kelly are right. Sometimes it takes someone else telling us what we already 'know' to make it real. (thanks, Kelly. :) I figure it's only fair since I've gotten so much help and support from this group! I gotta share it!)

Wow, look at you! You totally have grasped this whole healthy living thing. You tracked it, are NOT skipping dinner (good for you, I would have given you a virtual smack, an 'eSmack', if you had done that!), and you are already back to healthy habits! I LOVE IT. Reading this helped ME a lot, you know. Because I find myself in situations like yours this weekend, too, and seeing someone with whom I share this struggle turning it RIGHT back around and getting back on their feet, feeling stronger... It does my soul good.

I am so so happy for you! You even TRACKED your indiscretions. That is something I may not be ready for yet, so I am in awe. I hope next time I have trouble (because I know there will be a next time!) I can follow your lead and track it. My body knows I ate it, so what good does not tracking it do? None. You rock.

Hmmm, Bulemia w/ Restriction, eh? Sounds like me in college. I could never get the 'traditional' purging thing to work (sad that I tried, and maybe that's TMI for everyone), which was good, but I would find other ways, like exercise and starvation. Nice. :/ SOOO glad those days are past. I still struggle w/ disordered eating and body image at times, but age and emotional growth and the support of folks like you guys make it a little mellower. It's a good thing :)

Hope you all have a great week!!

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Jennie, you truly are a wonderful motivator!! PUMA, it sounds like you are studying to be a counselor...I'm a counselor of the school guidance variety!! You hit the nail on the head when you said it's hard to be objective about yourself. It's much easier to give others those gems of wisdom than it is ourselves.
Jennie...I appreciated your words to PUMA as well.

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inhaaaalllllleeee, and exhaaaallllleeee.......

jennie, i'm not even kidding at all when i say this... what in the world would i do without you?!

your kind words and realistic perspective truly brought me back to reality. i instantly grabbed my journal that i have been tracking in and went ahead and wrote everything down, "tracked" it, and am ready to move on. i don't love that you and others also struggle with binge eating, but i DO love that it gives me a feeling of normalcy, that i'm not some crazy out of control freak. it's the most ironic thing, actually, that while i'm sitting here posting about all my negative thoughts, i then go into my Word document and finish writing my counseling paper on how important it is to teach clients to change their negative self talk into positive self talk!!!!!! uummm HELLO!!!!! hahahaha. i lose all objectivity when it comes to myself. i can easily help others with little gems of wisdom, but it's so hard to turn it on myself and say "hey, me, listen up!"

all that to say, i really appreciate you jennie and how you are ready to jump in with encouraging words and support. on the ww boards, i'm sure i would have gotten a 2 line reply that just woulda said "track it and move on." wow, that's empowering.... :c/ so thank you thank you!!!!

already my day is better, i got 90% of my homework done, i'm gonna eat a healthy dinner (instead of skipping dinner, which was going to be my original plan, but that's not a healthy choice, either... in fact it leads to an eating disorder of Bulimia w/ Restriction, meaning there is bingeing and then instead of purging, there is a period of severe restriction afterwards... haha, sorry, we also studied the DSM last semester). wow did i just digress. anyway. happy trails :c)

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PUMA- First: Deep breath. In through the nose....aaaaand.... out through the mouth.

Second: Okay. You had a couple of less-than-stellar days when it comes to food and stress. These will happen. For people like you and me, if we are stressed, binge eating is a possibility, and we need to accept that it's a challenge for us. I think you have already done that, but I figured it bore repeating. Also, you were in 2 situations that sound like they were specifically tailored to bringing on a binge... Eating out, where a good plan is ruined by having to wait so long you're starving (and probably irritated. I know I would be, and being irritated AND hungry is a very very bad combination when a bunch of delicious food is dropped on my table for me), feeling overwhelmed w/ things that need to get done, feeling like a 'failure' for already slipping into old habits once (especially after a great week!)... When you list all that stuff off, just reading it makes me want to reach for some chips and chocolate. For a person like you and me, who struggles w/ occasional binge eating, it will take a LOT of practice, and a lot of slip-ups, to get to the point where we can rein it in before it gets totally out of hand, or even find healthier ways to deal w/ the stress. But we will get there, one situtation/step at a time.

Third: You sound like you are thinking you are "back" to old habits, or at least partly feeling that way. You aren't. You had a great week last week, and that means this time can be different. You do want to reach goal. I don't know that I really buy into the whole thought that because we occasionally get tripped up, or 'choose' to go back to an old coping mechanism, it means we don't want it. We do, and you do. And you will get there. That week of awesome is money in the bank, girl. You are changing your habits. Do NOT think that this weekend undid the awesomeness. This time, it is different. You can dust yourself off and say "okay, I splurged this weekend. I let stress get the upper hand for a while, but now it's a new day. I know what works, I know what to do, and I am worth the work it will take to get there". Also, side note: Don't think you won't reach goal unless you manage to completely banish binge-eating from your life. You can get there while you're still working at it. It's not all-or-nothing! I know that this may well be something I struggle with from time to time throughout my life, and I figure every time it happens, I can make a conscious choice to learn more about myself, so it's not a complete wash.

Blah, I had planned on this being a lot more sensical. lol. I hope it's helping. It sucks, dealing with this. It really does. But you have the tools you need, and the gumption, as well, to get back on track. I always try to remember that no matter what happens, food wise, I am always one meal/snack/workout away from being back OP. That shifts the focus from the "oh, crap, look what I did" feeling to a more "ok, what's next?" feeling.

This is what the Spark is for. :) We are here! You're not alone. I know you can do this. Chin up, pretty, and get ready to re-claim your week. You got this!

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2/13/11 2:46 P

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oh no. it's happening again. i am feeling really stressed out with all that i have to accomplish for grad school, and i'm eating... nah, close to, if not actually, binge eating today. last night hubby and i went out for dinner and i had a PLAN but then we had to wait so stinkin long for our table that i was starving, so i ended dropping my plan and eating whatever, which was not a good choice, because then i subconsciously felt like a failure, so then we went to publix and bought cake for dessert. so last night was a bust. then today i've been feeling the stress. i had a great bfast and told myself that today i would do a great job to make up for last night. well we get home from church, and i'm feeling frazzled by everything i need to do today, and so i eat... and eat... and eat. i didn't even count it all, i'm too afraid. *LE SIGH* why do i let myself do this?! i know that i really want to reach goal, and yet my behaviors don't show that i want it. sigh. just feeling really down on myself right now, and after a week and a half of AWESOMENESS, this is not a welcomed feeling :c(

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Puma, Thanks so much. I did an hour on the treadmill and then I felt better. Here is to a new week! Shiggle- So sorry, I will be thinking of you. Hugs.

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Oh, Shiggle. I am so sorry. You're right, there's nothing we can "do" for you, but we can commiserate. I hate pain meds. They do the same thing to me. I am still thinking about you. I really hope recovery is quick and the pain abates very soon so that it is at least bearable and you can function. I am so glad you have your dogs to keep you company! Much hugs, and hope for a better day tomorrow!!!!

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HONOR~ I'm glad you're getting the hang of the site!
Oh, what I meant is that for at least 5 days a week, I am at 1200-1300 (actually finding that I am at 1300-1360 and still losing well, so I am happy there), and for at least one meal a week, I let myself splurge, so that day's calories would be significantly more. Exhibit A, last night, when I had 4 pieces of a large thin-crust cheese pizza. Calories for yesterday are well over 2000. I figure I used to do that on MM, and it would account for most of my WPA's and then I'd have maybe a few left over for the week, and APs, too (which I would eat most of). So here and there during the week I may allow myself some extra calories, but nothing crazy. Only really have that one splurge day.

So, the Spark tells me I burned 3075 calories this week, and that's with 2 rest days! Had to skip last night's because I didn't manage to have time before our company came over. So, for s's and g's, I told the Fitness thingy on here that I burn around 2600 calories a week. Now it says my low end is 1500 something! Meh. I will stick with my 1350ish a day for now, and if I start feeling it's not enough, I will see about adding a few more.

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I am in SEVERE pain. I have never been bedridden before-I am that type of person who just can't relax, I always have a project or activity to do. I have hardly left my bed in 2 weeks and that is just to go to bathroom and occasional shower.

I am bored yet pain meds make me nauseous so I can't read. I am alone except for my two dogs who lay on the bed with me every day.

I woke up several hrs ago in pain of course, took 1 vicodin, didn't help took a second so I can at least take a shower and wash my hair today.

I know there is nothing you can do. Thanks for listening.

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jennie - lucky duck ;c)

kari - this is your accountability right here! the fact that you just posted this is showing that you are taking the right steps, ya know? so congrats on your loss!!! revel in it! mark it as 171, and start your new week!! WOOHOO!!!!!

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I couldn't go to my WI this morning!! I woke to a very sick baby girl and a husband that has had a rough 2 days and desperately needed to sleep in.
I rejoined WW first week of December after being pregnant, so I had not been to meetings in 19 months.I went back to lose my last 15 pounds as I was struggling and needed an extra push and WW has always done that. I need to weigh in!
So.... I am hoping to go to the Tues PM meeting and WI. We have no other options in my town. It is soooooooooooooooo hard to stay motivated without that scale. I weighed myself on my own... but I remember it being 3-4 lbs lighter than WW scale, so it's not a good help. I was 173.6 last week and after making major changes this week to make PP work I feel lighter and want to know if what I am doing is working.
My scale says 167.3 so even if it's 4lb off that would be 171- which would be a 2lb loss.
But I am finding it really hard to get over that mental block. Normally I would WI and then be okay today is a new week... Here we go clean slate. I have not eaten yet today as I am freaking OUT over starting the week w/out accountability. It's so messed up! :)

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Thanks everybody for the tips...I'm getting the hang of it & I can now see what I couldn't find before on SP tracker.
Triple tracking has done me in this week. I like how you put that JennieB...daily calorie count of 1200-1300 with a splurge meal...I was wondering how that fits in on Spark.
Next week will be easier. :)

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Good Ol' TOM doesn't visit me, ever. I am on the Depo Provera shot (helps me manage my endometriosis), so I never get it.
I still have my hormone fluctuations, and actually, it's a little more annoying this way when they come because I don't have that "aha! So THAT'S why" and the little sigh of relief to know why I am feeling psycho and hungry and weepy and angry and HUNGRY and tired. lol. I just... do, sometimes.
Still, it IS rather nice to never have to deal with that particular caveat of being a woman!

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ggiiirrrlll i feel ya!!! mine came overnight wed into thurs, and so no wonder i ate so much at my dinner last night. at least it was all healthy stuff i made, but still, i was insatiable!!!!

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So...I've been starving the last few days. Guess what? It's TOM!! No wonder!!

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KAFOX62 - Looking back at lunch is a great idea! And, do you allow yourself an afternoon snack? I have to have one. I usually have a yogurt (I LOVE Light & Fit yogurt!) or a piece of fruit or some snap peas. Yummm!

I learned an interesting tid-bit about the afternoon cravings. The times of day when you will be the most hungry is when your body is most craving energy. That is usually at night closer to bed time and exactly 12 hours from the middle of your sleep the night before. So, for me, I slept last night from 10:00PM to 6:00AM - I will be my most hungry at 2:00PM. Your body craves energy and since you can't sleep at any old time, it craves it in the form of food. :)

After learning this, I realized my afternoon snack was a must have regularly. Otherwise, I'd binge at dinner and later at night. :)

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"Do one thing every day that scares you." - Eleanor Roosevelt

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Right this red-hot second I'm struggling with being very, very hungry. This is the 3rd day in a row that I've been starving at this time of day. It's not the norm for me.

I'll have to go back to see what I'm doing differently at lunch!!

Oh wait!! I think I have an emergency snack bar and two mandarin oranges in my purse!!

Happy day! LOL

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LOVESFRANCE - LOVE the photo!!! :-) Great picture!!

Are you taking into account weekly points? In terms of any fluctuations, WP could be attributed to daily changes. :-)

I'm doing Momentum & calories to see the same thing - where am I falling. That way, I can use that information to determine what I should be on P+ (if I ever go to P+, which I won't if the company doesn't at least acknowledge the problems). I think it might be easier if you track one kind of points and calories - might make it less confusing? Then, if you follow mainly the points plan that you know helps you lose, after a week that you do lose you can look back and see what your calorie range is. Then you have the foundation to work off of and you will know what exactly your body requires to lose.

Also, the calories can be awesome because you can see the actual breakdown of the nutrients you are eating - how much healthy fat, fiber, calcium, protein, etc. It's much easier then to know what you need to focus your points on as well. :-)

Either way, you'll find the plan that works best for you! I'm sure of it! :-)


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Yep! We see you!!! emoticon emoticon LOL.

I would say, yes, food choices. The fiber thing, most likely. Something w/ no fiber that has the same number of calories as a food w/ 3 grams of fiber will be lower points or PP. I can't speak to how PP works, but I know that much about Momentum, lol.

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OK, first, I wanted to say that i have created a page, so you can see my face, right?

Second, I've been double--no, triple--tracking: here for calories, PP and regl'r points. I'm so befuddled because I see no hard-and-fast rules. (and I like me my rules!) Sometimes I hit 24PP and 1300 calories, and that translates to 22 old points. But that's not always true. Food choices, I'm supposing, right?

Edited to say: guess i"m back to the drawing board at my page because my photo didn't come up here.

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HONORFLEESIS - Jenny & Jennie are right - you just have to toy around with the different tools to figure out what works best for you. Once you find your comfort zone, go with that! :-) It may be Momentum, calories, or a mix of both! :-)

Jennie is right about calculating the calories while doing WW, though. If you can calculate your calories while calculating WW successfully, you will find the average daily calories you need to shoot for to succeed. :-) Then, if you do both and lose that week, and find that your average daily is 1300 calories, you know where to aim. :-)

Spark just gives a best guess scenario on calories - but you can modify that. Go to "My Tools" on the toolbar above and that will take you to your main page. From there, scroll down to "My Goals and Progress" on the left side. Under the "Calories Eaten" graph, you will see a "change" link where you can modify your calories.

I wouldn't do that though until you find what range is working for you. When I started this, I tracked WW Momentum and Spark calories side-by-side. I didn't pay too much attention to the calories, but just did them every day while staying with the WW plan. At the end of the week, I lost 1.5 lb so I know I was successful. Then, I went back through my week with Spark to find what range of calories I fell between all week. That gave me my starting point so I can now more effectively track calories.

Also, you can add your own foods through Spark - which is super handy becuase you can also create a favorites list that you can pull from. :-) To do so, click the "My Nutrition Tracker" button on the left of your main page. Then click "Add Food". The add food popup will come up and on the right of it, you will see a button for "Add Food Not Listed." And, once you add any food, even those already created, you can always click the "Add to My Favorites" box that is on the page. That will automatically add the food to your list so that you can auto enter them later by going to the "My Favorites" tab. :-)

Definitely let me know if there is anything else that I can help with. You'll figure out what works best for you, you've just got to be patient with yourself while you discover all of this new information! :-)

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HONOR~what are NI? Nutrition Information? Are you looking to input food that's not on their database? Because on the nutrition tracker there's a thing for "Enter a food not listed" and that's where you can do that. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding!

My advice? Track a day on Momentum that is right at your daily points target. Then convert it over to SP and see what the calories are. My guess is anywhere between 1100-1300 is a good range if you're going for 20 pts on Momentum. Go by that, and just don't worry about what SP has for you. After all, you know Momentum worked for you, right? Then, if you want a WPA-ish thing, you figure 35 points (the WPA on Momentum) would work out to be almost 2 days' worth of food. So then, if you are at 1200 calories a day, you have a weekly allowance of a little over 2000 calories to play with. I haven't tried this out, but it seems to make sense in my head. So far I am just sticking to my 1200-1300 and giving myself one splurge meal a week.
I hope I helped rather than hurt, lol. More numbers!!! But try to relax, you will figure this out. I hate numbers too!

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HONORFLEESIS - I tried myfitnesspal last year just because I wanted to see the nutritional breakdown of the foods I was eating, plus I was using the WWs tracker for points. You have to find the system that you will use long-term. I knew that counting points was better for me. It all comes down to numbers, but I do better tracking 1-21 than I do tracking 1-1200 - LOL I hope you find a system that works. Just keep an open mind and figure out your comfort zone as THAT is what works for us all long-term.

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I'm struggling with all these numbers! I feel so crazed & overwhelmed trying to figure this out...I hate numbers and that's all I've been doing...tracking P+, tracking momentum on paper, tracking calories on Spark, which I can't totally figure out...and, trying to calculate NI foods or find them on databases...why can't I enter my own NI on the sparks page? I have to chose one similar to their database?
I think I kinda figured out that I should be having around 1300 cal a day - which equals 20 pts on momentum and 24 on P+...I think.
I just need to stick with one plan & forget WW completely. I guess it will be calorie counting once I figure out the Sparks nutrition page (which tells me I should have 1500 cal a day!) I don't even know what I should be aiming for. It was so easy going to the WW meetings and following what they told me to do on momentum.


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Oh, ok! I had never used half-points before (not sure why...I just always rounded up) so I guess I didn't notice when I tested out the P+ program! :-)

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Oh, sorry, Bliss, I should have phrased that better. When PointsPlus started, we had no .5-point increments anymore, like on Momentum. It was right at the start of the new program. So no change yet!

However, the fact that they are now telling people it's okay to not eat all their dailies and to 'stop when satisfied' does seem to be a change to me, from the first week of the new plan. And I think, having been in the business as long as WW has, they will have already realized that's not really a suitable way to help people... At least, I hope so.

I do believe changes are coming, I just hope they don't dilly dally. But again, I am in no rush to get back there, since this seems to be working so well for me! You all are amazing people. Love it!

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Oh wow!! Hey, maybe that's a sign that some changes are a-coming?!?!

I hope so!!

Though, I will totally admit that being in a group with all of you has made Spark much more appealing that WW lately! I'm thinking I'm sticking around here - the support is unreal!! What a great little community we have going. :-)

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I noticed they took half points away from us on PoundsPlus.

Must be because they knew 29 a day was gonna be too much for some of us! ROFL!

At 18pts a day, you better BELIEVE I counted stuff as 1/2 points!

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yeah, a full cup was 2, and half a cup was 1. i find it easiest to put it on fiber one cereal, cuz 3/4 cup of that sucker is only 1 pt. and then i do 1/2 cup blueberries, so my entire momentum bfast is only 3.5 pts (yes, i do half points on momentum. LOVE it)

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How many points was non fat milk on Momentum? I swear it was 1, but the woman at the center said it was 2. If it was 2, no wonder I never got in my dairies and oil at 19 points....that would have been 8 points right there between milk and dairies. She has to be wrong.

Those of you doing Momentum, can you tell me? Thanks.

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Thank-you so much! The more people talk about the old plan, the more it starts to come back to me! I appreciate your help immensely.

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oh and veggies. no, veggies were still 0 on momentum, except of course the starchy ones like corn, potatoes, and peas. but there was still the warning there that if you eat too many 0 pt foods, you're still consuming SOME amount of calories. i knew someone who would snack on tons of baby carrots every single day, and she was confused as to why she wasn't losing. when she checked calories instead of pts, she realized she was eating way too many carrot calories, haha.

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teanna, as some quick answers, the APs i think were close to 100 cals burned = 1 AP. that was the consensus, i think. there were no specific limits to how many you could earn, but then just make sure you're eating enough food to supplement all the working out you're doing. umm, on etools i think it took from your WPs before it took from APs. but if you're tracking it yourself, you can take from APs. but really, it doesn't matter either way. cuz you'd still have the same amount leftover anyway, you know what i mean? like if you earned, for example, 10 APs in a week, plus your 35 momentum WPs, you'd have a total of 45 extra pts you could eat if you wanted. if you ate your 10 APs, you'd have 35 WPs left. but if you took away 10 WPs, you'd still have 35 extra pts to eat. so it's really your call.

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While I'm asking questions about MM, I also don't remember how APs worked. How many calories burned were worth 1 point? Was there a limit on how many could be used or earned a day? Were they used before the WPs? Sorry! WW tweaked the program too many times in the past 8 years for me to remember what changes went with which plan!

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Thanks! I started on Winning Points and almost got to goal at that time. I remember having to plan out my week when I knew I'd be going out for dinner to make sure I saved up enough points and exercised enough to earn more points. I remember when Flex was rolled out--the concept of 35 WPs was scary! But the DPT was also reduced so at least it made sense! I believe you could no longer roll over the APs earned daily--use 'em or lose 'em!

My sister thinks that veggies were only counted on MM after the first three? Can anyone confirm that? I thought points were always counted on everything. Unfortunately, I did throw away my little program pamphlets when PP came out so I can't jog my memory. I did keep my companion books and calculators as well as all my recipe books (which I just rescued out of the library donation box--Whoa, that was close!)

That spreadsheet that is posted in another thread is awesome! I've been adding to the database since last night. Thank-you so much for these resources!

Maybe there is someone out there willing to summarize the MM plan from the program book? My eternal gratitude will be yours! FWIW! LOL

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Hi TWEINGART!

I am not the best to remember all of these, but here is how I think of them!

I started when the plan was Flex and I really didn't see much of a difference when WW transitioned to Momentum. I treated them both the same and nothing really changed for me with those.

Winning Points was the one before Flex and I believe that was the one that you could roll your unused points. I never experienced that, but I can sure imagine how helpful those would be! :)

I love Momentum, myself. :)



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I've been a member of on-line WWs on and off for over 8 years. The old plans are running together in my mind! Can someone post what the fundamental differences were between: Winning Points, Flex, & Momentum so I can jog my memory re: what plan I actually was using before? LOL! Yes, my mind is going.....

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I love popcorn, but stopped having it when it jumped on P+. :-(

One of my old leaders said an excellent way to get your oils in for the day is to get 98% fat free popcorn and throw it in a bag with a little canola oil. I didn't believe her that it could be that good, but it sure was! And what an easy way to get in those healthy oils that I always struggle with. I'm at a loss for easy ways to get them in on the go with P+, but I'm sure they'll devise something! :-)

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Yep, nighttime munchies are my downfall if I let them be. I try to drink coffee or tea instead. The warmth comforts my tummy and makes me feel fuller. If that doesn't do the trick, I'll let myself have a snack, but it has to be portioned out. Lately a banana sliced w/ a schmear of peanut butter on a few of the slices has been great. May try drizzling w/ light choc syrup as well/instead....
I love popcorn. I cried a little inside when it jumped to 3 PPs lol. Popcorn is another snack I'll allow myself at night. I'm a bulk eater, so it satisfies me mentally and physically.

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My DD16 & I were on the homemade popcorn kick for a while, but popcorn just doesn't fill me up! I agree, Bliss, I think I get hungry in the evening a lot just because if I'm watching TV with the fam or relaxing, my body "thinks" I "need" a snack!!

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that sounds so yummy. My fav is still popcorn, homemade in a paper bag in the microwave, but when all is said and done, it totals 1 pt per tablespoon, I eat 4, and .5pt for the Parmesan cheese. So I'm looking at 5 points.

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I love Jen's protein-packed snack idea for the evening!

Another great snack - granny smith apple with string cheese! Doesn't seem like it would be an awesome pairing, but it totally is!! :)

I have the same problem - even after dinner. I'm not sure what it is about being home at night (boredom? comfort?), but it sure does seem a lot harder to keep the points down when I'm at home doing nothing for the night. Not so on shopping nights or days when the hubby and I are out doing something though!

Last night, my husband brought home a bag of candy that he keeps at work (he's a teacher) and I couldn't stay away from it!! I finally had to take a step back and say, "alright, I do not need this stuff and I'm not even hungry!" I just went to bed to avoid more - I know I was craving bad foods because I was simply exhausted. And I don't know about you guys, but I ALWAYS want junk when I am really just tired and need sleep!

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GrammaYaya, same for me. I get really hungry at night, for no apparent reason because I eat a healthy, filling dinner! My saving snack lately has been a slice of turkey breast or two, either spread with a Laughing Cow wedge (divided in two) and rolled up, or rolled around a light string cheese. Lots of protein seems to fill my belly up & it's low in points - 2 slices of turkey & the cheese wedge is only a couple of points. emoticon

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~Hi friends,

I find it hard to be able to eat enough on my 20-22 points. On PP I never even came close, but with Momentum I am finding myself hungrier, only at night. I'd love to be able to figure out how to pace my day to be able to my snacks that are my saving grace.

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i had another super naughty day today :c(

but the evening turned around! (even tho i had already consumed far too much food to even count). i got my booty to the gym for zumba, and i all of a sudden feel so much better. i don't know what got in me these past 4 days, but i think whatever it was, is GONE. tomorrow WILL be another day :c) :c)

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I find that once I get out of control for part of a day, I can't stop it for the rest of the day. In the past I just let it go, trying not to stuff myself and let myself have that day to enjoy the food. I tell myself that the next morning you will get back on track if you I let you enjoy it for this one day.

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Hi Puma!

I can completely relate. I tend to do the same thing when I'm extremely stressed - and I struggle even more lately with bored eating. It takes a lot of willpower to try to replace the eating with another action, but I am sometimes able to substitute with a walk or reading. Other times, I have learned that I just need to forgive myself and move forward.

Understanding your triggers is part of success. If we didn't fall, we would never learn how to get back up, dust ourselves off and start stronger. It's all a part of the learning process in this lifelong journey to health. You have to fall to learn so that the next time, you are better prepared.

I'm sorry it's such a struggle this week - just know that many out there understand. We all have our issues with food - which is why I really think we can all be great support for one another in overcoming each obstacle. :)

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my current struggle is actually not *necessarily* ww plan related.

hi, my name is puma, and i'm an emotional eater.

i'm really REALLY struggling with out of control binge eating these past 3 days. i can't seem to get a hold of it, and i don't even know why i'm doing it. self sabotage? maybe. i just need to stop, and i can't seem to.

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This is the place to share what your current struggles are.

Don't worry - we all have them! By sharing, we can all help one another find solutions to the common, or even the not-so-common roadblocks!

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