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I believe in wisdom from Father God given to us through Jesus and to each of us via Holy Spirit who dwells in each person who has given their heart to Jesus and Holy Spirit will lead and guide each of us into all the truth that each of us needs to live our life by.

Each of us is a distinct individual that has to follow our own path to what we can believe as truth for our own individual life.

Some medicine will help some people sometimes and we are not all the same.

We have been given free wills to pick and choose which is the right way and the truth for our own selves.

I depend competely on the Word of God and allowing Mr. Holy Spirit to speak all truth to me about myelf at all times.

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12/8/12 4:39 P

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And all I am saying is that meds aren't always the answer! :-)

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I guess what I am trying to say is from my own experiences. Each case is separate onto itself. GS was put on Meds for ADHD for years. All that was wrong with him was in was too intelligent for his peer group. Teachers wanted him to be like all the other students. He wasn't, so they put him on meds.

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Please I hope nobody gets the wrong idea about what I posted. If it is needed wonderful. But I see kids almost everyday who's doc put them on antidepression meds for peer pressure. Or for their acne??? And I can't say a word in the store. This is the sad part. :-(

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If she NEEDS then I am glad your neightbor has something to help her. There are too many taking Antidepressants who take them for the wrong reasons. Hers is right, mine is right.
All are not the right reasons, don't take medications as an easy way out.
I wish I could express what I feel but I find this very complicated right now. Just remeber what works for one, it no always right for you!

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I have a neighbor that is on at least two and she does not like them but she does need them right now

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I some people they may be needed but in a lot of cases they are handed out like candy! In some people depression is a sign of Vit D deficiency. Something so simple can be the answer. Not is everyone but in some!

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I am glad that you are being helped by them.

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I tried to kill myself and God save me. Yes, I had that after life experience. I have been on antidepressent since. I will never go off them because I do not want to get that feeling again. I don't want to have to dig myself out of the hole again. I may gain weight but I am, alive and that is all that matters.

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I remember reading that antidepressants do no good at all and only seem to worsen what ever reasons there are for taking them.

This article is true.

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Antidepressants and Stroke
by Hiyaguha Cohen

It's utterly amazing how antidepressants remain the most frequently prescribed medications in the US, given the endless list of complaints and side effects triggered by these drugs, not to mention their questionable efficacy. As we've reported in the past, antidepressants may cause weight gain, nausea, birth defects, chest pain, insomnia, stomach bleeding, sexual dysfunction, rashes, diarrhea, a decreased ability to experience love, an increased chance of relapse into depression, an increased tendency to violence, and a heightened likelihood of suicide. As if that's not reason enough to check out alternative cures, a new study indicates that antidepressants may have yet one more particularly ugly side effect. It seems that a popular class of antidepressants called SSRIs, which includes drugs like Zoloft, Paxil, Lexipro, and Prozac, may up the risk of stroke or brain hemorrhage.

The news comes from a study involving half a million people out of Western University in Ontario, Canada. The study found that SSRI antidepressants increased the risk of bleeding in or around the brain--triggering a stroke--by up to 50 percent. Here's the reason. SSRIs work by preventing the brain from reabsorbing a neurotransmitter called serotonin. Instead, the serotonin gets stored between nerve cells. Without serotonin, the theory goes, there's an easier flow of chemical messages in the brain, and mood supposedly improves (although the experts admit they don't really understand why). Unfortunately for anyone taking SSRIs, serotonin has multiple functions, one of which is to help blood platelets form clots. When serotonin is limited in the brain, clotting can't happen, which means excess bleeding may occur.

Though the escalated risk of a stroke or hemorrhage seems alarming, the researchers tell people not to worry. Strokes caused by brain bleeding are actually quite rare. Most strokes get triggered by a blood clot that blocks a blood vessel, not by bleeding, and so the absolute risk of having a brain hemorrhage remains quite low, they say--one in 10,000 (versus one in 20,000 if you don't take an SSRI). Unless you have a clotting disorder, a previous history of hemorrhage, or if you're taking blood-thinning medications--the experts insist you shouldn't fret about it.

"I think that overall, these medications are quite safe," said study director Dr. Daniel G. Hackam. "Obviously there are [also] risks to having depression go untreated."

Many of his colleagues agreed, including Dr. Jordan Smoller of the Harvard Medical School, who commented, "We should remember that the conditions people take SSRIs for--depression and anxiety--have their own risks in terms of adverse health outcomes, suffering, disability, and even suicide. So it's not a matter of risk versus no risk."

Whether or not you beg to differ, the fact is that any increase in risk doesn't make sense unless the medication actually does something to alleviate symptoms or to effect a cure. And the big problem with antidepressants is that study after study shows that for most people, there's little benefit to taking the drugs. As I've written before, "According to an article in the New England Journal of Medicine last year, the press on antidepressants hasn't presented an accurate picture. Of the 74 antidepressant studies submitted to the FDA between 1987 and 2004, only 38 were "positive." The remaining studies found that antidepressants, in fact, did nothing to relieve depression. Zip. Nada. Ultimately, even the positive studies tended to find that the drugs worked only for the most severely depressed patients.

Add to the picture the fact that numerous studies show that other methods work at least as well as antidepressants in relieving depression, without causing any dangerous side effects whatsoever. In fact, a few days after the study on brain hemorrhaging from antidepressants was published, the National Institute of Mental Health published research revealing that stimulating the frontal lobes of the brain with magnets could relieve symptoms of depression without causing the insomnia so typical of antidepressant medications. The positive rate of relief from depression using this method, also known as "transcranial magnetic stimulation," was an average of 58 percent in 42 clinical trials--a better outcome rate than with antidepressant medications. Then again, Jon Barron gave us all a heads up on transcranial magnetic stimulation last year and wrote about the benefits of magnets in treating depression several years prior to that.

We've written before about the various nutritional and herbal interventions that work quite well in alleviating depression without raising the risk of stroke, suicide, and the like. We've also mentioned studies that found exercise actually outperforms medication in relieving depression. In fact, these studies show that depressed people who exercise without taking medication actually fare better than people who both exercise and take an antidepressant, with lower rates of relapse. Plus, exercisers reap the added health benefits that come along with getting fit. Similarly, studies show that meditating works as well as antidepressants in alleviating depression, as does listening to classical music.

Given the list of alternatives to antidepressants available, we come full circle back to the opening comment about it being utterly amazing that antidepressants continue to dominate the market, with one out of every 10 individuals taking these drugs and annual sales topping 11 billion dollars. How is it possible that so many people still take antidepressants when safe alternatives exist and when studies show negligible benefits, especially for those suffering from mild to moderate depression? Even if the risk is only one in 10,000 for having a brain hemorrhage triggered by an SSRI, the very thought that the drugs work by stopping the clotting mechanism in the brain is reason enough to worry that other unfortunate effects will be uncovered in the future. And is one in 10,000 really that rare an occurrence? Who wouldn't give anything to have those odds when playing Mega Lotto?

This was emailed to me by www.jonbarrons.org
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