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this is some very good information because I at least know what is bothering me at times, mold.

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Venting the bathroom properly or getting a dehumidifier would work, too.
After you've bleached and sealed the grout.
Shower squeegees, seriously, they are cheap and get the job done in less than a minute.

You'll have mold as long as the conditions are favorable to its growth.
Moisture is a key element in its control.

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Kurt, I know you are renting and the job is a big one but the only way you may get a handle on the mold is to take the grout out and treat it and than apply new grout down. I had to do that in Texas. Was a big job but it worked!


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Our only problem is the bathroom too.

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EJ:
It used to work before the warm weather came (I've been here about a year or so).
Regular peroxide still works on the tile elsewhere.

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Hey Kurt, the problem with regular peroxide is that it is only 3% you need the stronger stuff.
Mold is like the creature from the Black Lagoon!!

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There's no door, just a thin shower curtain.
I don't have time to do anything else but take a shower in the morning.
The problem is only with the shower's tile floor.
P.S. - I tried two bottles of regular peroxide (overnight) and it didn't do anything.
I have to stick with the water + bleach.

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Hmmm.
Kurt... prolly a stupid question but then I've got a lot of those... ha

Do you squeegee down the walls of your shower and dry it with a towel afterwards... either keep the door to the shower open or pull aside the curtains so that you can get dry air in there?

I keep a squeegee in my shower ... they make them for this purpose... helps keep mineral deposits on the tile down, too.

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PS. You may also want to get a dehumidifier for your bathroom. I think the key to controlling the mold, as with fruit flies, is to eliminate conditions favorable for their growth and reproduction.

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Mine loved the vinegar, and it loved the baking soda. The bleach works, but it doesn't last more than a few days. I'm going to try alternating between the bleach and hydrogen peroxide (not at the same time, but on different days). It won't be able to get used to them if I switch back and forth.

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I saw on the history channel that the reason not to use bleach on mold it that it did not kill it but just whitened it. That made sense since I have noticed that the mold keeps coming back in the same place in the shower. So now I use ACV to kill the mold since it will also kill mold.

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Although the entire place is tiled, the problem is only in the bathroom.

Considering the apartment situation here, I wouldn't do much better if I paid $500+ more per month (which I wouldn't be able to afford, anyway). And apartments on higher floors have other problems that I don't have, so it's a trade-off.

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Kurt that is so harmful to your health to be living in that situation. :-(

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Mzz:
In my case, I shower & shampoo more with herbal washes (which include baking soda, lavender, sage, and rosemary, plus other herbs) than soap, and I use a bit of herbal oil as I'm finishing up. The mold became uncontrollable when I stopped using shampoo and cut down on regular soap. The mold thinks these natural concoctions are delicious.
Considering the fact that I live in a basement apartment in New York, I don't think it compares to basements elsewhere. The mold is coming from underneath the foundation of the house and who knows what it had been living on before it came up through the bathroom tile.
I may have black Horror Movie mold (or, at least, Stephen King Horror Novel mold).

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Regarding the comeback of mold issue...
After you are done cleaning...

Why not wipe the tile and grout down with a bit of oregano or thyme oil on a soft cloth....or even one of the citrus oils mixed with a bit of lavender... leave a film there and see if this works to break the cycle of mold coming back? All these oils have antiseptic qualities... I believe Listerine gets its taste from thyme oil.

I haven't tried it... but it may work since oils are more stable and the oily film left behind won't be visible. If nothing else, you'll have a wonderful smelling shower!

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But I do know it works very well. I was taking the Hydrogen internally for a while just to oxygenized my cells It did seem to work. Now there is Cell food which is easier and I think better for internal stuff.

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This is excellent information--Thank you EJ!!!!!!!!

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Thanks for the info.
All the warnings sound scary, so it definitely needs to be handled carefully.
I'll keep my eyes open for it, but it does look a bit pricey.

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very excellent information here on how to deal with deadly mold and really appreciate this EJ, thank you

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Kurt I would call your local Health Stores and ask them if they carry the 35% Hydrogen peroxide. It would be cheaper than trying to buy online.
And it would be a product in front of you so you can check it out. Not everyone will carry it. It can eat right through clothing and destroy counters so you have to be extra careful how you handle it. dilute it according to directions. But this is some fabulous stuff!
Here is some info about it.
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EJ:
I've never heard of that. Where do you get it, and what would I ask for?

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I have the food grade Hydrogen peroxide and that is stuff strong!! It will burn your skin if you aren't careful!

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We have to use bleach on our Rental property every time someone moves out. Thanks for the tip about the Hydrogen Proxide.

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It's not good for the environment, either. That's why I feel guilty about doing it.

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Put the bleach in a spray bottle or a squirt bottle and apply after EVERY shower. That way is sits on the mold and not rinsed off right away. Just becare of breathing that stuff in the lungs.
NOT GOOD for your body!

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Good info -- some of this is new to me.

However, the black mold here (in the shower) seems to like the peroxide, but hates the bleach.
I don't like to use bleach (I bought it specifically to kill the mold when nothing else worked). so I use it sparingly in water and let it sit. I do open the window and close the door so I don't have to smell it.

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What to Do About Mold

Last week I introduced the topic of mold allergies. Today’s about dealing with mold, both visible and invisible–at least to the naked eye.

And visible mold likes to hide, so we may not actually see it or know for sure it’s there, but all the hacking, wheezing and blowing creates big-time suspicions. Here’s a tip: A musty odor means mold’s lurking on the premises. But mold can be odorless, too.

Whether it’s visible or invisible, musty-smelling or odorless, mold causes problems.

Your body will tell you what’s going on. You may pass allergy tests with flying colors, but your symptoms speak the truth.

All allergies involve our immune system, a part of the endocrine system. Well, when one part of the endo system’s duking it out with troublemakers, all the others jump in to help. Which means not a one of them can function at 100%, and they may start falling like dominos.

This domino effect is why I keep jumping up and down about our need to know what each part of the endo system is supposed to do. You may never determine which one started the mess, but you’re not going to fix anything unless you figure out which endo glands need help.

In the meantime, let’s talk about how to give your endo system some support by reducing the levels of mold it has to put up with.

A solid vitamin/mineral program leads the parade here. Endo systems slurp up vitamins and minerals like crazy. Probably because they’re ammunition in the war against toxins–including mold or other airborne allergens.

Don’t get the dietary supplement, Airborne. It contains soy, sucralose and other endo-damaging ingredients.

Black mold
This is the stuff that crawls up walls and across floors. But, since it doesn’t like light, black mold usually hides in dark places. Besides being toxic crud, black mold throws its spores–by the carload–into the air we breathe.

Mold grows well wherever it’s damp, so kitchens and bathrooms are targets. Be sure to fix all leaks, clean out drip pans under refrigerators and freezers, maintain the caulk in showers and tubs so water can’t slip into cracks and do dastardly things unnoticed, etc.

House plants generally do more good than harm healthwise, but anybody with a severe allergy might consider ditching plants or covering the soil with garden-shop charcoal.

How to kill the black stuff
• Do NOT use bleach. It doesn’t really kill mold, but the fumes can do a number on you. Hydrogen peroxide works on mold–and not on you. What a concept! Check out an e-book on all the things hydrogen peroxide does at http://budurl.com/k476.

• Use an ozone generator for a one-time–or once in a while–kill. Ozone gas is hard on lungs, so you rent (or buy) an ozone generator, put it in a room, set the timer and let it do its thing while you leave the house for several hours.

Ozone goes through carpeting, upholstery, between walls, between floors, under floor boards, through the duct work, pretty much everywhere, killing mold–including the breeders that keep creating the stuff–as it goes. Kills odors, too.

• Wallboard can get terminally infected with mold. If the ozone doesn’t fix the problem, you have to replace it. Perhaps basement wallboard wasn’t installed to prevent mold growth. There’s an art to finishing a basement, and few builders seem to know it. Flood damage can mean new wallboard, too. Pretty much new everything, for that matter.

Mold spores
Black mold sends armies of spores out for your breathing inconvenience. Evergreen trees do, too. And lakes. Some foods. The question is not whether mold spores surround you, but whether you react poorly to their presence.

Like all living things, mold has a circadian clock. (Well, who knew!) Evergreen trees send out a storm of mold spores in the dark of night (about 2 a.m.). The darkness provides life support for the spores, and your humming air conditioner brings them into the house. Then your adrenals crank up, releasing a flood of cortisol to fight back. Well, cortisol’s supposed to be low at night, so if you wake at 3 a.m. and wonder why, consider a mold allergy.

Think mold, too, if you wake up with a head full of bad stuff every day.

Pollens do their damage in the light; mold works in the dark.

Get super-duper furnace filters to help out. The one with the best reviews is the 3M Allergen Filtrete 1250.

Dehumidifiers can help by reducing the moisture in the air, but only if you keep them sparkling clean.

How to kill mold spores
• Negative ions kill airborne allergens. You can buy fans with an ion generator. Himalayan salt lamps silently pump out negative ions whilst looking pretty, too. Negative ions actually help the endo system. Lungs, too.

• Ultraviolet lights kill most airborne allergens–and all mold–as they move past the light. I read you should put them in your air ducts; somehow or another, though, you have to able to plug them in.

UV lights damage your eyes in a trice if you look at the lighted bulb, so put them behind something. Since kids are especially vulnerable, place the lights carefully–and out of reach. And warn the kids you’ll never allow them to get a driver’s license or date if they even get close. :)

Finally, you need to make your endocrine glands happy and repair any damage you inflicted on your liver (high fructose corn syrup anyone?). I talk about both in my Moving to Health program; the long format there allows me to connect all the dots.

Until next time then.

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