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I did a mini-once-over cleaning of the bathroom this morning.
Skipped the floor - probably should not have.

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Annie: DH is using a bar of soap covered with alpaca wool which is supposed to felt down as it's used. Are you talking about one like this, or is the cover already felted when you put the soap in? I had no idea it could last so long. This one was a Christmas present I bought at an ecomart.

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Interesting idea. I'll have to go look at the instructions.

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I make my own soap. My last batch has lasted 3 years!

I also cover my soap in felt- instant washcloth - color coded for each family member.
Doing this makes one bar of soap last up to a year, no kidding!
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Vali:
I Googled "Clorox to clean vegetables" and this is the first one I found -- a messageboard at www.rawfoodtalk.com (I put in numbers instead of the names):

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1. It is the Clorox brand that you would use if you were to do a produce bath. Ann Louise Gettleman (The Fat Flush) tells how to do this in Beyond Pritikin. It is used primarily to kill critters and bacteria. I don't think it will restore produce (it will however, kill any bugs hiding in your broccoli). Supposedly, the Clorox breaks down into salts and you don't use very much [in the bath].

2. You have to use the Clorox brand and the bath would be very diluted. It's been used to detoxify vegetables for years. Even organic food can be contaminated.

3. The vegetables and fruit that you purchase everyday is laden with toxic chemicals that you cannot see.
When they say to use Clorox [in the produce bath] they mean the Brand of Clorox ONLY!
The reason why you are using a Clorox bath is to 'clean' your food. It is not possible to do so with water alone. In the Clorox bath you are using a small amount of clorox bleach with alot of water. the bleach will be diluted. Then after soaking for an appropriate time you then again soak your food in water for another ten minutes. so there is no risk of you consuming bleach.

4. You can also use apple cider vinegar, 1/4 cup per sink of water. Hydrogen peroxide can also be used, I don't know how much. See Paul pitchfords book healing with whole foods for more info. There are other ways to remove pesticides, usually some mix of baking soda, grapefruit seed extract, and other safe ingredients. I'm sure you can google it and find something.

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This is basically what I've come across on previous occasions, so the belief is pretty widespread.
I think #4 is the winner, though.
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Interesting. I didn't get very far with the Clorox web site, wasn't able to find much that was useful on it, but then I did give up kind of quickly and move on to some other sources of information. I wonder if the reason why Clorox is the only bleach diluted out and used on foods has something to do with it being more pure than other bleaches. That's actually the impression I've always had about why we only use Clorox on our analyzers. I wonder if other brands of bleach have additives that are harmful to analyzers and to people who ingest them. (I'll be honest and tell you that I really don't know the answer to that one.)

At any rate, I didn't find any information that indicated to me that Clorox is no longer chlorine bleach. (The fact that sodium hypochlorite is listed second after water says to me that the main ingredient in Clorox is still chlorine bleach.)

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VALI_T:
That's interesting -- and disturbing.

I saw it stated to the contrary in a food care article: supposedly it's OK to use Chlorox-brand bleach to disinfect/clean the exterior of most fruit and vegetables because if it's diluted to a certain strength, it won't harm people. The article was specific that no other brand of bleach be used because the composition of Chlorox differed from regular bleach.

According to the Chlorox site, the main ingredients are:
Water, Sodium Hypochlorite, Sodium Chloride, Sodium Carbonate, Sodium Hydroxide, Sodium Polyacrylate.
I don't know if this is different from the no-name, generic bleach, but you might.

Green grocers in NYC often use those diluted-Chlorox baths to clean the outside of certain fruit and vegetables, and it also makes their colors appear more vivid and fresh.
It horrified people in the 90s when people began to find out, but has since become an accepted practice, as long as it's Chlorox.

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I looked at an MSDS (Material Data Safety Sheet) for Clorox online. MSDS's are required by OSHA (I think) for all chemicals. Anyway, the MSDS for Clorox still lists its main ingredients as sodium hypochlorite (which is chlorine bleach) and sodium hydroxide. In fact, the percentage of sodium hypochlorite has gone up from 5% when it was originally sold about a century ago to 6.5% sodium hypochlorite when this MSDS was put online. (I think in 2005.)

If anyone has any more current information about Clorox I'd be interested in knowing about it because we use Clorox in the hospital lab where I work and I've never seen anything that says it's no longer chlorine bleach. (Not saying that you're definitely wrong, just that I can't find any information to support your claim that Clorox is no longer chlorine bleach and I'd be interested in seeing the information you're basing your statement on.)

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I didn't know Clorox has changed. It's been a while since I read the label.

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60Sixty:
Which brand of bleach?
Clorox is no longer chlorine bleach (it's something else) and is not harmful to food when used correctly.
The budget bleach brands are still chlorine bleach, which never actually leaves certain materials like plastic refrigerator drawers.

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Since I got sick almost a week ago, I have ignored the Simple Menus & Cooking; Simply Housekeeping forum.

I must be feeling a lot better, because I cleaned out the refrigerator earlier. I usually try to do that the day before garbage day. This time, I really cleaned, as I haven't done that since prior to Thanksgiving. My one produce drawer had some strange looking stuff in the bottom, so I bleached that one. I feel like I really accomplished something.

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Kirk's Castile Soap is usually found next to stain removers in the grocery store. Dr. Bronner's (liquid or bar) can be found in the natural section of the store.

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I used to have a little bottle of castile soap but I think it got thrown away in a move some time ago. I'll have to see if I can find some, as staining my entire queen sized comforter with my husband's cuticle oil just doesn't sound like a feasible option. emoticon

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Offhand, I remember two different methods used to remove oil on fabric, but they both had to be done when the stain was fresh.

One required sprinkling plain talc over the stain until it soaked up the oil, then brushing off the talc.

The other one, after blotting the oil, suggested dampening the spot with water, rubbing liquid castile soap and foaming it up, wiping off the foam, and repeating the process a few times.
I'd tried this one on every type of oily stain that I'd get on pants (and at the time, castile soap was commonly in men's public rest rooms) and it worked.

The craziest one I'd heard, and it was from one of those nationally syndicated columns, was if all else fails, stain the rest of the item with the same oil. The columnist had tried it on her dress and it worked.

If I come across anything saner, I'll post it as a comment on your page.
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I am not sure about oily stains. Hope somebody else knows. Borax might help.

About the spark emails - I have known a number of people having trouble ever since the website update.
A lot of people's email preferences defaulted to not getting them.

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years ago I used pine sol to get deisel out of my husbands work clothes, but I don't know about using it on a comforter. You may want to check with a dry cleaner

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I haven't been getting Spark emails for a couple of weeks and I really don't want to try to search through this entire thread to see if this problem has already been addressed...

Can anyone tell me a good way to remove oily stains from fabrics? My husband has been using an oil on his cuticles (yes, I am married to a teenage girl emoticon ) and he got some of it on my light blue comforter. I blotted as much of it off as I was able to, and then I sprayed a good stain spray on the stain, but there is still a square stain smack dab in the middle of my comforter that I'd really like to be able to get off.

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Really, I have not had that experience. There are no odors or dinginess. I just started using them about 6 months ago. Perhaps there is something different about them. I don't like my whites with them though.

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SHERYLP461 I was involved in a study on the washer balls and used one for a while, but found that it didn't do much on heavily soiled items. A friend in Canada said her son's class did an experiment with using them and found that plain water did just as well.

I've been using natural laundry detergent for years now. I started using BioPac at first, but I recently changed to Mrs. Meyer's--I like the basil scent the best. If I buy my cleansers by the case--and I do for general use detergents, laundry, and dish liquid--the store gives me a 15% discount.


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Thanks for the tips.

I mix a solution of white vinegar and water for my windows. Dry with newspapers and they sparkle

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For cleaning my toilets, I use Seventh Generation disinfecting bathroom cleaner. I use it to clean my bathroom counters as well. I stay away from bleach as much as possible.

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I use Concentrated 20/10 Windshield Cleaner (for autos) and dillute it into my squirt bottle for cleaning the house windows. Works exactly the same as Windex or other window cleaners, but is so much cheaper and lasts forever this way.

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I use a "green" cleaner for the toilet bowl. It's a powder... basically, I flush the toilet and while the bowl is empty, I sprinkle the power in it and I use the brush as it starts to fill back up.

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What do you all use for cleaning toilets and sinks. I use baking soda in the sinks, but still buy bowl cleaner. Any suggestions?

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I have available for my laundry besides my detergent:
bleach
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liquid fabric softener & dryer sheets that I rarely use.
Shout-it-out stain pretreater.

Not that I use everything. My Shout-it-out was purchased several years ago. But there are times when it is helpful.

Our washer is fairly new. We purchased it in a family owned store, where they really knew their product. They said the advice from the company is that in most cases, less detergent is more. Only really filthy stuff needs the full amount.

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Yes I use both of those but like you, I often use detergent and bleach in white and towels. (It helps to sanitize)



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I use the balls that you put in the washer instead of soap, and the dryer balls in the dryer instead of softener.
I confess I do use laundry soap and bleach in the whites though.
Does anyone else use these?

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I live in a tiny apartment and have a stackable washer and dryer combo. I feel like I'm ALWAYS doing laundry!

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My sweetie claims that I'm over zealous with my laundry, but I have a very sensitive nose. emoticon I use the minimum amount of laundry soap for each load, set my dryer on low heat for all loads, and hang our clothes up to dry instead of putting them in the dryer to save wear and tear on the fabric. I also sniff each dryer towel after use to decide whether I can use it for another load.
So I end up averaging about 4-5 loads of laundry over a week, which includes sheets, towels, light and/or dark permanent press, and sweetie's white cottons. I haven't priced it out, but I know I'm being more frugal than I once was.

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I wasn't counting sheets, sometimes I can fit them in with the whites though.

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Even though their are only two of us, I do at least 4 loads & DH does one load of laundry a week. I keep bedding washed weekly because of allergies. That takes two loads. If I don't have too many dark items, I combine them with our dark colored sheets. I do my light colors with the light colored coverlet. We use a lot of towels because we go swimming a lot.

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I have ceramic tile floors and I squeegee after I mop and they are dry immediately. Big squeegee with a long handle!

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I'm gonna have to tell my dad about the squeegie in the shower idea. As far as I know, he's still drying his shower with a towel after every shower he takes. (What a pain emoticon )

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I did a load a day until all my kids left home, now we are down to twice a week with just me and my DH. Saves on water

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When I was working full time, I tried to do one load of laundry a day. It seemed to make life easier.

I got the habit from my mother, because she ran out of soft water if she did too many loads in a day.
I must have a better water softener, but it keeps me from getting overwhelmed.

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I've been using a squeegee in our shower for years, it cuts down on the cleaning time I have to do. I also use a scrubbie with some of the body wash to scrub down the walls when it needs to be done. I'm sensitive to that strong cleaning stuff that has bleach in it, so I stay away from those products.

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I too find that using a squeegee after each shower gets rid of the excess moisture, then a wipe with a cloth and it is shining till the next time.
I like to use a little white vinegar in some warm water to wipe down my bathroom as that makes things shiny and disinfects too - also use on kitchen counters and wipe door knobs-especially now with all the colds, etc.

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Great idea about the shampoo!

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I use vinegar for cleaning the glass stove top and other glass.

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I have done that, too. Because I have allergies and my DH has to use the stronger, smelly chemicals. I have been keeping shampoo that I paid less than a dollar for.

I don't know if this works on all surfaces, but i keep a sponge that has a green scrubbing surface on one side [the kind intended for kitchen pots & pans.] I have a clear plastic gizmo with suction cups that holds it. I always wipe down our shower doors with the sponge and just water after every shower. Before I started this, I had trouble with a brown mold developing in a matter of days.

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I discovered the best way to remove soap scum from tubs and shower walls and doors, is to use cheap shampoo and a sponge. Works fast and great. No expensive, smelly cleaners required.

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