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8/4/08 5:17 P

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I like your thinking, Mrs. Mita... When will Hollywood start being accountable to the regular people? Yes, I watch movies to escape and be entertained, but I live in the real world. Do they? No, they live in Hollywood and the media just makes it worse by making their fairytale lives normal. We all know that it's not all roses and giggles, look at the mess girls like Lindsey Lohan and Britney Spears have made of their lives. I saw a magazine at a grocery store stand the other day that was celebrating the celebrities losing weight and demeaning those that have gained (like Kirstie Alley). It is disgusting how they put pictures of that poor woman on the cover of the mag and talk about how fat she is. But bravo, Britney for losing 12 pounds. Even if you have lost your children and your mind, way to go for losing the weight! It makes me sick.

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8/4/08 1:52 P

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Tosca Reno had a great article on six-pack abs in the last Oxygen magazine. She talks about how most people don't have them year round and how they are not visible to the eye every day. Only after working out, flexing or just seasonal (for competitors). That totally changed how I viewed the fitness models in the mags. If I could just see mine one day out the year, I'm good!

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8/4/08 1:43 P

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I totally agree! It just makes so many people feel like they are not good enough becuase they can't maintain these unrealistic ideals of beauty. I bet the stars themselves would also want these unrealistic standards to come down a bit too. Not half as many people are looking or caring what I look like and I feel a lot of pressure, so I can only imagine how much pressure it is for famous people.

I wish there was a little less emphasis placed on people's looks and more importance was placed on their character. It seems to me that a women's worth depends on how she looks. Instead of all these examples of how a woman should look and the secret diets and exercise plans of the stars why don't they tell us how these women (and men too) are good people. Instead of "Jessica Simpson's Secret to a Daisy Duke Booty" and "Diet Secrets of the Stars" let's see more stories about "5 Top Parenting Tips from the Stars" and "Secrets of a Great Marriage from Famous Couples" or "The 10 Top Hollywood Charities and How You Can Help Too".

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8/3/08 11:38 P

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It's funny but I now talk to people about being food deprived. Food deprived not chemical deprived. My DH laughs because he is chemically deprived and now says he is spoiled by all the healthy foods we eat.
I want to scream every time I see energy drinks but I remember I can't control what others eat only educate those that seek information.
BTW when you put out that magazine of real people I want to be a cover person showing off my 6-pack and not the one with miller written on it. I do love beer but it just isn't part of my everyday life.
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8/3/08 10:48 P

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Well, a lot of feedback on this topic, really surprised me. I ahve a daughter, too. She's 8 yrs old and is absolutely gorgeous (no I'm not biased lol). She is blessed with her dad's frame also. He is 6'8" and we were both skinny all through childhood. In fact I didn't start putting on weight until I was about 28 yrs old. All of my kids are tall and skinny, but my oldest son (14) worries about his weight and my other two children continually tell me that I don't need to lose any weight. I tell them that I'm not worried about losing weight, I just want to be healthy; but they see the way I have changed my eating habits and how I won't eat the cake and cookies, and they think I'm on a diet. I worry that my daughter will always look at herself and think "I'm not skinny enough." That's what I did when I was in school.
I couldn't hit 100 lbs when I was soaking wet, but I never thought I was skinny enough. Yes I had an eating disorder though no one knew. I just ate like a bird at dinner and went for long periods of time when I ate nothing at all. No one noticed. Then after I had 3 kids, I was eating things that were not healthy, got depressed, had some major problems. You all know where that story goes.
So now things are back on track. I eat healthy items, lots of fruit and veggies which I love, drink nothing but water, and exercise as often as I can. I hope that my kids can see it's about being as healthy as I can, not about my weight. I don't want my daughter to go through life like I did, alone without support. She's my reason now.

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8/3/08 10:06 P

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I have seen that book a lot, and couldn't seem to get past the name. Might have to check it out now!

I know exactly what you mean about the PE teacher and his attitude and I agree. It makes me sad, but I do hope this changes him enough.

I do wonder if my daughter was raised by the people down the street whose daughter is going into 1st grade and weighs as much as I did when I started Spark what she would be like. I am sure still relatively skinny, but if she isn't hungry she doesn't eat as much. I raised both of my babies on the theories of "Babywise" where you feed them on a schedule not when they cry. By 3 months old they NEVER cried for hunger because they ate at 6, 9, 12, 3, 6 and 9 period. No need to get emotions wrapped up in food at such an early age. If they cried they were tired, wet or being pinched. It really was amazing to see it work with two babies. Also had them sleeping through the night VERY early on. Anyway, I KNOW when my kids are hitting a growth spurt because they out eat their dad, but otherwise they just eat until full. They just found out what Kool-aid was when my 8 year old went to Girl Scout camp. lol We do have some junk in the house, but never much and only allowed to eat as a dessert not a "just because". This topic could go on for days, but to make it short I"m with you. Bowl of apples on the table all year long and pretty much free to go when they want one no matter when the time. Gotta love seeing that!

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8/3/08 9:37 P

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If you want to pee YP laugh get the book on cd skinny bitches. To darn good and talks about attitudes. Tell your daughter that if she wants to keep that thin body she has to keep up with how you cook which would be how your husband eats. I am the mean mom the buys those f & v and keeps them reachable. If it's not in there and not cut up my daughter doesn't cut it. I keep telling her I wont be there to cut her F & V for her whole life.
BTW after you listen to the cd remember I will always be that loving and caring fat person. I learned so much about life and people being heavy that I will never forget.

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8/3/08 4:30 P

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I so totally understand, I will never look like that no matter what, we just have to remind ourselves to be the best WE can be and move forward, I know it's hard, I feel ya pain, sister!!

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8/3/08 3:53 P

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Tammie -

So glad to hear that the PE teacher got the message. Whether he voiced his opinions or not, you KNOW the students got the unspoken message. I'm sure the atmosphere couldn't be much more of a motivation killer!

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8/3/08 2:57 P

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I think we all have those days. I know I have. I know exactly what you mean though. I worry about my daughter the other way . . . at least for now. She has her dad's body structure and is very thin and also rather tall for her age . . . ok, pretty doggone tall for her age. That being said I try so hard to squeeze in without making it a thing how people are all made different and how food acts different in everybody's body. We talk about eating healthy to feed our body so we live longer and HAPPIER while we are here. I don't want her to be judgmental (as my husband's family is) about people who do have a harder time being/staying thin.

We have a pe teacher at the school I work at who ties "fat" with "lazy". Makes me NUTS. The less lazy you are the fewer layers you have. I don't know if him EVER saying that to the students, but I have found myself in a conversation with him concerning this. Well he just took a class (masters level) taught by another teacher in our district and they watched a video of a girl who worked out over an hour 6 days a week, watched what she ate, the whole deal and she was still rather on the "chubby" side. It REALLY changed how he viewed things. He even went on and on I guess about how shocked he was that anybody could work that hard and not be stick thin. We are all just made so different.

Sorry for squeezing that in there, but I love when somebody has an "ah-ha" moment where other people are concerned.


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If satan can't make you sin he will make you busy.

What we dwell on is what we become.
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8/3/08 11:51 A

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I have something cool for you to check out that will blow you away. Do a search for Jillian Michaels and radio. She does a talk show and talks about all kinds of things but an interesting thing is what she does to get ready for tv. She is 5'2" and normally at 125 which I feel is very doable. So for the biggest loser show she works her a?? off to get rid of 10 pounds. She also talks about how the LB contestants work out for 4-6 hours each day. The first season Suzy did say you do things for tv that you wouldn't do. Jillian also talks about a drink that basically sucks the water out of you that they use on the show to give you that dramatic weight loss. The night before they also do a big pig out so that could also give you a false 5-10 pounds. I took a photography class and learned how to use a simple program called elements and the big guys use photo shop. check the angles you are taking pictures from and the height. They are in the market of selling. This is a thought. Could you start a magazine that has nothing but real people with real problems and no one from hollywood. Would it sell. Let me know.
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8/3/08 10:15 A

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That's why I try whenever possible to purchase Dove toiletry products. I really like their ad campaign featuring "real" women. I figure if they're successful enough, then other companies will get the message. If the campaign flops, then . . .

Our biggest opportunity is simply to set a good example for ourselves and our families.

(I don't have any affiliation with the company, in case you're wondering.)

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Not only is it unrealistic for 98% of the people on the planet, it is horrible to set our young people up thinking this is acceptable. Think of the print ads, how much airbrushing goes into correcting all their flaws? On TV and movies, how much makeup goes into hiding their flaws? These impressionable kids don't see that, they see the finished product. How many people have gone into Yahoo answers to the DIet and Fitness boards, it's almost all kids. Boys and girls who feel they have to lose weight, even though some are at a low weight if not severely underweight. Do you know how many teen boys I've seen on there upset and trying to lose weight because their thighs feel jiggly? Do you know how many are on there asking how to get past the hunger of anorexia or how to use toothbrushes to throw up so they don't get any on their hands? Some young girls post pics to see if people will tell them they are fat. Our media pushing this perfect body thing is killing our young people. Hollywood turning actresses into underweight, human clothes hangars is just reinforcing the media. There's not enough out there telling of the effects of being underweight, the effects of bulimia and anorexia, since it is just seen as a way to get that perfect body. No one wants to talk about the hard subjects, just turn away, because hey, it's one less obese person in the US. The whole subject as you can tell anger me. I'm watching my niece now try and keep her 5'2" frame under 100 pounds. It's all very sad.

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This is something I feel strongly about too. All you can do is teach your daughters (if you have them) that the media is a whole other planet.

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I'm sorry you've had a bad day and I hope that you'll have a better one...

We can only strive to be the best that we can be and not a carbon copy of someone else.

"Be more stubborn than the scale." That's my motto! Make your goals a reality... Give it your all!
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I am so sick of seeing all of these skinny women on all of the media around me. The pictures of tanned, beautiful, skinny, perfectly muscled women that we are supposed to use as our self images. Lets get some realism. We don't have to be overweight to be real, but how much cosmetic surgery does a woman have to have to be the perfect woman? How many people really think someone like Kelly Ripa or Jessica Simpson is what we're all supposed to look like. I am so sick of if you're not blond, 5'7" and 110 lbs you're not good enough. Sorry for complaining, I've just had a really bad day.

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