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MEWHENRYSMAMA
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10/15/12 2:29 P

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Caution of Weight Loss foods for cats! You need to Buy low carb...and many brands do not even give information on carbs and most are high in carbs! This even includes canned food! Ask your vet, who may be able to give you a list or research on line! Good products are out there! Good Luck!


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10/8/12 6:25 A

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Lizzmi, I'm late returning to this thread. Based on your last post, it sounds like your cat is very stressed out and is not feeling well. I feel very strongly that you HAVE to get her away from your mother. Your mother's behavior regarding the cat is bizarre, and it feels like a control thing. Whatever it is, it's not good for your kitty. :( I think things will go much better for you--and for your kitty--once you can move out.

Please find another vet. Telling you it's all your fault is not helpful. The focus should be on helping your kitty get better.

Good luck to you!

Jen M.


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9/7/12 8:19 A

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I have one kitty who is definately overweight (Rainey) and I appreciated reading all the responses here! I am going to check out some weight management food this weekend to start him on and I started last night with "timed" feeding...also, separated the two so that Rainey cannot push Moody off of his food to get it too! I also laid the law down to my two sisters that treats are to be EXTREMELY limited!

Kelly in Florida
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LIZZIMI
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9/6/12 3:00 P

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I've been moved back in for a week now. MiMi is starting to get used to measured feedings. I've been in charge of treats every morning and only give her one or two (I still don't think they need treats but face endless screaming by my mother and eventually my mother gives it to them anyway) I have to get up at 7 or 8 because my mother wakes up super early to try to overfeed her. I don't get it! Today she managed to beat me to it- I caught her with two handfuls of the moist purina treats! She refused to get rid of the crap food so I've been sneaking her the healthy food and hiding the crap food. I put it outside for the strays. If my mother would stay out of it everything would be much easier! 9 more months and I'll be out for good! Can't wait!

She has started peeing on the floor. She's done it before but hasn't for a little while. While I was gone for the summer she pooped everywhere. I came home to a room full of poop and am in the process of ripping out the carpet. I had taken her to the vet before about it and was told "whatever her problem is it's your fault"... not very helpful. It's so gross. She had FOUR litterboxes in all different places in the house. She peed on the litter mat. Ugh!


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8/21/12 10:25 P

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I'm glad she's better. I guess it's hard for some people to realize that our pets can feel bad just like we do. We can't expect them to be okay if they are fed 'junk' cat food and don't get exercise. Sounds like you're on the right track to get her healthy. Sending continued good vibes.

'Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -- WOW -- what a ride!


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BITTERCAT
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8/21/12 9:43 A

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So glad she is doing better! You must be so relieved!

Jen M.


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LIZZIMI
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8/20/12 2:47 P

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She's been eating a mixture of innova low fat and blue buffalo for a week now, she's already looking a little better. She wants to play and actually lets me pet her now, so I think she's feeling better as well. She sat on me while I was there and was actually purring, she wanted nothing to do with me for the past two months so I'm really happy. Since she's doing a little better I'm going to wait and see if getting her to play more and giving her the BB does the trick before taking her to the vet. I'm moving back next week so all of her feedings from then on will be from me.

IMAREADER, she has done that. If she is allowed to eat unlimited wet food she will eat and eat until she throws up, then will continue eating. She's done it with dry food before too. She's an over eater x_x


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8/18/12 2:58 P

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My Maggie May's weight is okay. Alice should lose about a pound. I'm working to get her more active. My mom had a cat named Piglet (RIP) that wasn't overweight, but she had to make sure that she only fed him the right amount of food, because he would eat until he threw up. We used to say that he was the only bulimic cat we had ever met. He was definitely the first cat that I knew that didn't know when to stop eating.

'Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -- WOW -- what a ride!


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8/15/12 2:17 P

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My cat was on BB for about 6 months before we switched her to the prescription food. We were trying it for Speedy with her urinary problems, but speedy continued to have urinary problems and piglet didn't lose any weight. So, it didn't work for me, but I hope it works for you. It costs about the same as my prescription cans from the vet, so there was no cost benefit for me either way. I didn't try the dry, so not sure about that.

I don't know that I would run out and have bloodwork done, when you know that she's been allowed to overeat. You've seen a steady increase while she's been with your mom, so I think you can be pretty sure that's the problem. Personally, I wouldn't waste the money unless she doesn't lose any weight when she's back in your care and you are controlling what she eats.

I weigh Piglet on Wii Fit, too. I just don't take it as seriously as her vet appointment weigh-ins.

Kari

In the long run, we shape our lives and we shape ourselves. The process never ends until we die, and the choices we make are ultimately our responsibility.--Eleanor Roosevelt




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8/15/12 2:06 P

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Definitely get her blood work done. She could have hyperthyroidism. If your vet is not taking it seriously, then maybe you need to try and find a new one when you can.

The BB is definitely better than "prescription" foods. My cats were switched to a grain free diet a year or two ago, and I don't deviate from that (except for treats, every once in a while.) I really feel that getting your cats back on BB or a similar, grain free diet will help a lot.

I know I'm talking about things that are expensive, but I know that you love your kitties. In my case, we simply budget for them. I have had a diabetic cat and more than one who was hyperT. It seems like, when I switched them to grain free, the hyperT cat's thyroid normalized. (She still has to be on medication, though.)

Let us know what happens!


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LIZZIMI
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8/15/12 1:57 P

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BITTERCAT, it's okay, opinions are good too! I had no body else that could take care of her, unfortunately. I'm moving back in a couple weeks and will be home a lot between now and then so I'm going to have more control over the situation finally... She's been to the vet once for weight already, before she got really big. The vet just told me that it was probably due to being fixed and she was eating too fast. She didn't mention doing blood tests or anything really. They also just say "give them this expensive prescription diet that is of lower quality than natural foods!". She did really well on Blue Buffalo so I'm hoping that switching her back will have an effect on her weight.

It's past the point of being "cute" it's just kind of sad now.

Thanks for your advice with the feeding schedule! I read somewhere that they should be getting 4-6 meals a day, but I'm in school and couldn't do that most days. Feeding them at morning and night is a good idea. Treats are another big problem, my mother throws them at her like shes feeding chickens! I told her to stop with the treats and got "I DON'T GIVE HER THAT MANY! (lie) THEY ARE LITTLE (lie) and SHE WON'T LEAVE ME ALONE UNTIL I GIVE THEM TO HER (lie)". I give them the purebites occasionally, she gives them the temptations every single day.


SADDYSPOT, that's what happened with her too. She started getting overweight after being taken off kitten food, then she got fixed and gained some more, then my mother put her on the all corn diet. She was a little over 12 pounds the last time she was at the vet (this was BEFORE she gained all the weight) I'm not sure how much she is now, I have "Wii fit" and they have a thing that weighs cats and keeps record of it. I'm going to use that during her weight loss adventure.I bought blue buffalo healthy weight food so hopefully that works. I have 3 cats, but just the one is overweight. The other two are kind of underweight, actually. I'm going to have to start separating them. It's just so hard because she will destroy the door to get to the other cats food. As soon as the other kitties are done eating and I open the door she comes ZOOMING out at like 60 mph (guess that is good exercise though) straight to the bowls. The other two cats are like "lol we ate it already fatty" and then she gets a sad look on her face. It's so weird! I've never had a cat with over eating problems.

She's the same way as your cat when shes hungry and there's no food she eats anything, especially plastic. I asked the vet about it and apparently there is fish oil or something in plastic? Weird. It's awesome that you've had good luck with your kitty. Hopefully MiMi will be a poster child too!


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SADDYSPOT
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8/15/12 12:46 P

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My cat Piglet was 18 lbs at her appt last Feb. She was first overweight when she was only about months old and I took her off kitten food. At that point, I put her on IAMS Weight Loss cat food. She did not lose any weight though, even though I followed the recommendations on the bag. I think I was only giving her 1/4 cup dry in the morning and 1/4 cup dry before bed. She still got up to 18 lbs. So last year, my vet told me that I either need to get some weight off of her or come to terms with giving her insulin shots. So...We started her on OM (overweight management), which I think is a Royal Canine food--but don't hold me to that. Her sister is on urinary healthfood, so they both have to eat separately now. She started eating more than she has now, but we currently give her 1/4 of a can of wet with 1/4 cup of dry, morning and night. I also mix in a tablespoon or 2 of water with the wet to be sure she's getting enough since she doesnt' drink like crazy like she did when she was pre-diabetic. She has a ton more energy now.

As to logistics, I feed both cats at the same time. Once right before we go to work, so the dog goes in his crate and can't eat their food, and Piglet gets hers in the Laundry room, and Speedy goes in her cat playpen, where she stays all day until we get home from work--about the same at night. On the weekend when Speedy is out all day, we give her breakfast on a rug on top of her cage. She can jump up there, but Piglet cant. Since Piglet eats all of her food at 1 time, we don't have to worry about Speedy eating Piglet's food, but Piglet will
eat anything. In fact, we do sometimes have problems with Piglet deciding she's hungry before its time to eat and eating plastic bags or plants. Or paper. Or whatever else she can chew on.

Piglet has always eaten like your MiMi. Like every meal is her last. Eat it ravenously until it's gone. And she used to smack Speedy and take her food when she was half way through her own. Speedy would just look at her like 'why did you do that' and walk away.

So, Piglet is now 14 lbs. The vet calls her a poster child for wight loss food.

Kari

In the long run, we shape our lives and we shape ourselves. The process never ends until we die, and the choices we make are ultimately our responsibility.--Eleanor Roosevelt




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8/15/12 12:07 P

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You didn't ask for opinions, but I have very strong ones about this situation.

First off, I really feel you should find someone else to take care of your cat--someone who will listen to you. Your mother, to be quite blunt, is killing your cat. ;(

Secondly, I recommend you take her to the vet ASAP and get her blood work done. She is probably in danger of diabetes, as well as at risk of hyperthyroidism (if she does not have it already--that can cause them to overeat and always feel hungry,) and this is NOT good for her heart or liver.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but this is pretty serious. Some people think that fat animals are cute, but they are not. It's very dangerous for them to be obese, just like it is for humans.

To answer your question about schedules: We are on a pretty strict feeding schedule. I feed them twice a day, and then all of the food gets put away until next time, period. I used to free feed, and it's just not good for them. I feed them when I get up and then again right before we have our dinner (usually 7-9 am and 6-7 pm.) They only get treats once a week. They could probably have them more often, but I already spoil the heck out of them! LOL!

Good luck to you! I'd be livid!


Jen M.

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8/15/12 11:41 A

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She needs her own sparkpeople account!

MiMi is a 1 year old DSH. I found her at 4 weeks old living in horrible conditions at a hoarders house. I took her home and fed her cat milk until she was old enough to eat kitten food. She's an over-eater. She was one of twenty kittens fighting over two moms. The way she eats food reminds me of when I first saw her, like she thinks that she has to eat fast and fight for her food. My other two cats have to guard their wet food or she will push them out of the way.

My mother has been watching her and my 13 year old for the summer (temp. summer job in another state) because I could only have one cat at the apartment. Instead of feeding her the Blue Buffalo that I give her she bought "Friskies" dry food which is corn,corn,corn,soy. She has become a beached whale. She has gained so much weight. I gave my mother the right food, it's just sitting there in a box. When I'm there I give her the correct food but when I go home after a couple weeks there's multiple bowls FULL of friskies. My mother is lazy and just puts out multiple bowls so that she doesn't have to refill bowls. I've told her to stop, that I'm putting her on a diet etc etc.. She's completely in denial that she is obese. My mother is morbidly obese herself so this might have something to do with it. She gives the same excuses for the cat that she gives for herself "she doesn't eat that much (lie) she's not fat, she''s just a big girl (lie)..." I'm moving back in a couple weeks and I'm hoping that putting her back on her regular food will help but I'm looking for advice on ways to help her lose some weight.

I've been buying things and sending them to my house but either they aren't working or my mother hasn't really been trying. I've bought: slow feeding bowl. My mother will fill it up and then stick it next to two or three full regular bowls. Yeah, not working. Also, one of those food-dispensing balls. She has no interest in it. Again, food available elsewhere.

I also want to figure out some kind of feeding schedule with measured meals instead of free-feeding, at least until she loses some of the weight. Is anyone on a schedule with their cats? I really don't know where to start. I don't even know how much she really is supposed to be eating.



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