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3/6/12 9:28 A

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Update: I fed Maggie May her breakfast at one end of the kitchen counter this morning (Alice had hers near her feeding station on the floor). A little really wet food with her Cosequin powder stirred up into it. She scarfed it up. So far, so good.



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3/5/12 4:55 P

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My vet called back and said that he would recommend the Cosequin for her (and a food specially made for bladder/urinary issues). I picked up the Cosequin a little while ago and also bought some of that ridulously expensive 'bladder health' food from the vet. (I'm going to carefully read the ingredients and see if I can find a comparative OTC food that is a little less expensive next time.) I'm going to have to figure out how to feed the Cosequin to Maggie May without Alice getting to it--maybe now that I've gotten them in the habit of having some wet food for breakfast, I can feed it to MM in her share on the kitchen counter (Alice doesn't get up there). The main problem is that they tend to 'drink the juice' and come back later for the rest, so that I can't stand there and monitor who's eating from which dish. I don't want to separate them for feeding because that may cause more stress for MM (and it would be a real pain).

I also bought a really elaborate tall 'cat tower' for my cats at Petsmart this weekend. So far, they love it. It has about 6 levels and lots of carpeting to claw and soft 'beds' to nap in. (I had read that getting one of these is good for cats with FIC, because they can have a place to climb up to to hide when they want to. It's monstrously big, though. I have to find a good place to place it (the traffic area in the living room is not a good place). I told them that this item was their birthday and Christmas gifts for the next year or so all rolled up into one!

I thought about getting one of the Feliway cat pheromone diffusers, since those seem like they are good at 'mellowing' out cats, but the only one they had at Petsmart was a little beat-up looking and it costs too much for me to get one that might be damaged. I might go back in a few days get the Feliway spray and spray some on their new tower. Must keep the cats all mellowed-out!

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3/4/12 11:19 A

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I had forgotten that Cosequin was for the bladder! thanks for the post! I ran out of my cat's urinary tract food and was feeling nervous about it. heh, I can find the cosequin at my pet store.

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3/4/12 1:36 A

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My cat had a stress related bladder problem and the thing that helped him the most was Cosequin or Dasaquin (glucosamine/condroitin) supplement. I would put it in his wet food every day. He had more of a ureter spasm problem. The one time he had a full blockage he did have crystals, but ever other time it was just from spasming/stress. The Cosequin seemed to help his bladder more than anything else I tried. I hope your kitty feels better!! Good luck!

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3/1/12 4:42 P

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I'm bumping up this thread, because I'm going through 'urinary' issues with my cat Maggie May. Several weeks ago, when I noticed that she was going to the litter box about every 5 minutes and producing about a grape-sized clump each time, I took her to the vet. He didn't wait for test results, but gave me something for a suspected UTI. (A long-lasting Convenia shot with a booster 2 weeks later). I thought that she was fine, but noticed a week ago that she was still not using the litter box like she should. I took her back to the vet and he took blood for labwork and a urine specimen. Since her urinanalysis didn't show any bacteria, she didn't have a UTI. He thinks that she has feline idiopathic cystitis (FIC). He prescribed an anti-depressant (since many times, this is a stress-related issue). However, my online research seems to indicate that medication is usually a second line of defense in treatment. First, one should try to reduce the stress, make sure that the litter boxes are as clean as possible (to keep them from 'holding it in'), promote as much water intake as possible (more wet food, more water stations, adding water to the wet food, less dry food), and get the cat to be more active. If this doesn't work, then meds can be considered. I was really hesitating on the medication, because although I could get used to having to give her a pill every day, some of the main side effects are grogginess, weight gain, and less interest in grooming. I don't want a zombie kitty! I spoke to my vet and he's okay with me trying 'environmental/diet' changes for a while. I'm going to monitor her closely. (So far, it looks like her litter 'production' is better--I saw a couple of golf ball-sized clumps last evening and this morning, and I don't think it was her sister doing it--her clumps are always much bigger!)

Has anyone else had experience with FIC? (Just a note: although there was some blood in her urine, there were not any crystals, so she doesn't have that problem).



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3/20/11 12:24 A

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My male cat went through a terrible period of urinary tract infections. Mine was like yours... he had no crystals, but there was blood in his urine and he had spasms. At first, I was in denial. I was feeding him the Wellness dry food brand plus premium wet food and was almost offended that he would have health problems...but after a few panicked vet visits, I saw the light and I put him on the vet's urinary tract wet food: Royal Canin and Hill's prescription food. He loathes it so I mix it with the premium wet food that I bought before and that makes him happier. I still give him dry food as I have other cats who love it... so now I buy the vet's Royal Canin bladder health dry food plus I go online and look for uninary tract dry food. Wysong's has some plus there's a brand called Tor. Both are premium cat foods and I figure it'll balance out all of the junk in the Royal Canin food.

I haven't had any trouble with him since I've gone to this strategy. I also look for urinary tract foods, etc. at Natural Pet Care.

Anyway, I hope you find something that works!

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3/14/11 11:09 P

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If this is looking like it may be a chronic situation then a holistic vet can really help...although why they didn't go with a 2nd round of antibios is beyond me...unless you really like your vet I would also look for another...one that specializes in cats...I love my vet, she is awesome and kitties are her forte...however...the prescription food offered through vet offices is often pork based (BLECH!!!!)...so I went online and found the catfood that I will send you a link to...also I got medicine dropper like you give meds to toddlers with and I give my big guy a dropper full of water to keep him extra hydrated...the main thing is to get the infection out of his system without your office jerking you around with extra $$$...here is the link...the chicken formula only as it has the lowest ash level necessary to maintain the bladder PH

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I am able to give my kitty dry food now and this is what he gets occasionally...it has glucosamine/chondroitin which has reduced his arthritis so much he thinks he's a teen again and jumps up on the counter...my guy had crystals and another one of my kitties chronic cystitis brought on by crystals...both have been great this past year on this food...again only the blue bag formula in the link below...hope it clears up soon...hugs

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3/14/11 2:47 P

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Denise,
I know exactly what you are going through. I can't begin to tell you what I went through with my 16 now 17 year old boy. Ultra sounds, pain medication, special foods, antibiotics. Absolutely nothing helped and the vets constantly told us it was cystitis or urinary tract infection. I finally found a holistic vet and my boys problems were solved. Take your cat off all dry food as it is too high in magnesium. The special uTI food your cat probably wont eat as mine did not like the food to eat and it is usually expensive. Switch to can food (Mine likes friskies). Then go to a health food store and get a good brand of Silver Colloidal with a strength of 30 PPM. I like the wellness brand the best. You can give your cat 1ml three times a day for 5 to 7 days. Continue for at least 5 days even though you might not see blood in his urine by the 2 or 3 day. I guarantee this should work it did for my boy. Every now and then my guy wants some dry food so I give him some and sure enough in about 2 days of eating dry food we have blood in his urine again. So i go back on the silver colloidal again for 5 days and it's gone. Just incase for your information I got a UTI once and none of the antibiotics were working and I even had a culture done. The silver colloidal worked for me but I did not think you could use it for animals until I went to the holistic vet that a friend sent me to and found out that you could. Just had to use a different strength and amount. Good luck and let me know how everything works out for you. Judy

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Hi Everyone:

I started a blog post last night because I thought it would get around to more people, but I want to post this here as well - I'm desperate to find a solution. Thank you!

Our handsome guy, Yoster (Yoda) emoticon is approximately 12 (ish) years young.
He had a physical in November, 2010. His urine test showed some blood under the microscope, but we weren't seeing any in the box. Our vet told us that there wasn't anything to worry about.
A couple of years ago our old vet heard a slight heart murmur, this vet did not hear it.

Around Jan 12th, Yoda was urinating frequently, always producing some urine - some with blood and some without. After a few days, he was going more often, and producing less and less urine.
Sick with worry, we decided we didn't want to wait until his regular vet's office opened, so we brought him to the local emergency veterinary hospital very early one morning.

The vet did a urinalysis and a urine culture. She gave him some fluid under the skin, and we left early that morning with antibiotics, pain medication & something to help with bladder spasms (phenoxybenzamine).

After 48 hours, we found out that Yoster DID NOT have a urinary tract infection and he didn't have any crystals. She said that the pain meds and spasm medication may help to break the cycle, but, he may need a bladder ultrasound if his symptoms continue.

We were happy that he seemed to be better, but the blood in his urine showed up again, with frequency, so he had an ultrasound on 2/18.

His ultrasound showed: "a thickened bladder wall as well as blood and mucus clots, consistent with cystitis (inflammation of the bladder). It's uncertain what the underlying cause is for his cystitis, but medical management of his symptoms is recommended at this time."
His heart murmur was heard again, only this time it was stronger/louder - ?? Grade III or IV over VI . An echocardiogram to evaluate his heart disease is suggested. (of course, this is very concerning to me).

When I picked our little guy up in the afternoon on February 18th, we were given more pain medication as well as the spasm medication. I think that the Phenoxybenzamine does help him.

On March 1st, he started having a tiny bit of bleeding in his pee with frequency, so I called to get him some more spasm medication - they said they couldn't do that - that we'd need to bring him in for another exam. The receptionist said , "there could be something else going on".
I tried to explain that the vet suggested "medical management" at this time. She said that we could come in for a re-check (which is a reduced fee), and then we would most likely be able to get that medication for him.
It would be difficult at this time to incur another large bill right now.

If anyone here has had similar urinary problems with their beloved cat(s), I would love to hear any & all suggestions on things that have helped.

Thanks to all who have read this very long post.

Much peace & love,

Denise

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