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I think I figured out what's been going on with Izzy. She mainly is a little pest in the mornings. Our schedule is, I get up, sit on the couch with her in my lap, drink coffee and watch TV. Then I get on the computer for about an hour before my workout. Well, this morning she did her normal wandering around my desk about six times, so I put her in my room.

when I got ready to work out, I let her out, got my stuff ready, plugged in my DVD, all the while she's being the perfect little adorable kitten she is. So I put in my Turbo Jam, and for the 55 minutes that I worked out, she was literally tearing through the house and having an absolute blast! Jumping from chair to chair, running from room to room. I told her I should put a pedometer on her! She literally did this for the entire time I was working out. SO, I think she's my little "exercise angel" and when she comes in to my work area in the mornings, she's telling me that it's time for me to work out.


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3/16/10 10:28 P

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Yasha, the Mau, does this also. If she hears paper or plastic crinkling it MUST be because I'm eating something and she wants in on it. She also lays in the middle of whatever I am doing and insists on sitting on my arms while I'm playing a video game. I have noticed, if I stop my activity and pick her up, she decides she doesn't want my attention anymore and walks away.

(She likes to knock over containers containing liquids, mostly water. She knocks small objects off counters, desks, dressers, and even tables just to watch them hit the floor. We work around it mostly.)





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3/16/10 1:41 P

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Trust me, I honestly regret the day I let them out. I've only had two cats. My first, when I was young, was indoor/outdoor. My last one, Gidget, was STRICTLY indoor as we lived in the country with no fence. When we moved to town, I would take her in the back with me, and she NEVER left my sight. I would even take her in the front while I worked in the garden, and she would hang out on the porch.

A few months after she passed away in 2008, is when we adopted Izzy and BeBop. BeBop, we found out later, is a Toyger breed, and he honestly is much like a dog. He can be out in the back (although once he was naughty), but he comes in when he's ready. Izzy, on the other hand, is as you can see an outdoor freak.

I think the reason they're so different is BeBop was born and raised at the shelter, spending his entire time in a cage until we adopted him. Izzy, on the other hand, was found wandering around, so I believe that she was probably born outside, raised outside, and then somehow got separated from her family. She's not a feral, by any means, but she DOES love the outdoor and is quite a little huntress.

I tried the treat trick just a bit ago, and it worked. Now she's contentedly watching her CAT DVD on the couch. SO, it's usually in the mornings, and evenings, that she bothers me. BUT in the last week she's had days where it's been non stop, which is why I finally decided to post something.

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3/16/10 1:29 P

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You know I always hate giving advice for people who let their cats out & then expect them to be content w/ them staying in.

We have tired to keep our cats in but sometimes when you live in a chaotic household like we did. The kids & animals get out of hand. Now that we have a peaceful house it's easy to keep our cat (who was an outdoor cat when we got him) inside. Thee other one doesn't want anything to do w/ outside. If we pick her up b/c she's crying b/c we're outside & take her out she has a fit.

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3/16/10 12:07 P

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Glad has some very good suggestions about play time. May I add another "toy." Peep loves the red dot from a laser pointer. You might also try playing with Izzy in "her room" only. That way she will learn that there are areas for play and areas where play is off limits. If she starts bothering things on your desk, just pick her up and take her to her room. Leave her there with some toys and close the door. As she gets a little older she will learn that your desk is not her playground. I work at home also and have two indoor cats. Neither bothers me or my desk while I work, but I made it clear from the time they were kittens that my "work time" was not their play time. Also, since Izzy likes being outdoors, have you considered an outdoor cat enclosure? I have seen them in a lot of different sizes. They resemble a dog kennel, but they have a top on them (usually wire) so kitty can't get out. That way she could safely be outdoors to watch the birds and squirrels, chase bugs, etc. Also, my cats are also box lovers. I always keep a box or two around. They also like to bat a ball around in the bathtub.

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3/16/10 11:57 A

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Thanks for all the great advice. I just put in CAT DVD after I got through working out, and she's batting at the TV. She got bored with it after a few weeks when I first got it, so I hadn't put it in for a while.

I'll keep in mind the idea of giving her a treat for getting down. DUH! Why didn't I think of that. Guess I was just getting frustrated. Also, when it warms up and starts getting lighter earlier, last spring/summer I would take them out in the morning while I had my coffee. So I'm just waiting for that warmer weather to come and I'll start doing that. THAT, though, is when she really gets "conditioned" to expecting it.

Izzy and BeBop are totally different, except at dinner time. They eat dry during the day, but around 5:30 I know it's time for their gourmet can of Fancy Feast!

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3/16/10 11:14 A

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IZZY, I agree with Glad. Also, have you tried to shut the door? I know its hard to do that, cause they want it. But you could maybe shut the door and leave her with a ball with treats in it (yes, there are kitty kongs!) and keep her busy.

I have a 3 year old cat (I have 10 cats total) who I had to make a lot of accommodations for when he was a kitten. He would knock everything on the floor. I used to keep things on my dresser, but had to move everything to the drawers when I got my now 15 year old cat. So maybe you have to restructure your workplace.

Also, you can train her to do what you want. Teach her the word down, when she gets down, give a treat or lavish praise and petting on her. It works!

MICHELLE ...

cats are crepuscular ... meaning most active at dawn and dusk. For the nighttime antics, play with them before you go to bed and make them tired. They'll settle down and whatever you do when they start acting up in the morning, don't acknowledge them. Don't yell, throw toys, just pretend they are not there. Otherwise you are rewarding for behavior you want to correct. Even negatively. Ignore them. Eventually, they will stay in bed until you do.

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3/16/10 10:59 A

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Your cats are not hyperactive - they are still kittens, and will be so until around 2 years old. What they are doing is completely natural. Honestly it sounds like they need more stimulation and play time with you.

I know you can't rearrange your schedule as far as work and stuff like that goes, but over the next 2-3 days watch when Izzy gets most hyperactive and note the time. The next day, about 5-10 minutes earlier, get some of her toys and spend the 10, 15, 30 or whatever minutes she needs to blow off steam. This way you are working with her internal clock. Get her running around to tire quickly. Some ideas:

Tin foil balls - cats love chasing and batting these things around. You can even train them to bring them back. Same for milk carton rings.

Paper Bags - I had a cat who would sit on the couch. I would hold a paper bag with the open end toward her and bottom end facing the wall, not the floor. Rattle the bag to get her attention. As she would leap into the bag, I would let it go and she would fly across the room inside the bag. After she landed I would rattle the bag with her in it. She would do this over and over. Note: Only do this in a large room with carpeting. Hard floors will risk hurting the cat. You also don't want them hitting walls.

Rubber bands and spit balls - I used to shoot rubber bands for the paper bag cat. She even knew what "rubber band" meant. Sometimes I would shoot the rubber bands; other times I would fold up paper into little squares and shoot those around.

Dresser Hockey - I had a male cat who loved this game. I would put him on the dresser and set a nickel down in front of him near the edge of the dresser. To give him the idea, I would start by pushing the nickel around with my finger. Cats learn fast and he would then bat it around until it flew off the dresser. If I caught it, I got a point, if he caught it, he got a point. We would play to 10 or until he got bored. Believe me, there were times when he won that game!

Yes, some of these things are messy and you have to pick stuff up afterward, but you're giving your cat natural activities of chasing and catching prey.

Your cat will start settling down soon, so enjoy their activity level now, because you WILL miss it once they are more mature.

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3/16/10 9:22 A

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I too have a hyperactive cat (at times) named Harry. He is quite demanding of attention unlike his sister Nikki. I make sure he has lots of toys and catnip. Often times the catnip will exite him so much that it makes for an intense play time, after which he needs to sleep or relax for quite a while. When he is getting too demanding I bring out the catnip and he entertains himself quite well.

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3/16/10 9:19 A

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Oh yeah the boxes! My husband always throws them away ): HE IS CRUEL in general. I have cats that like rolled up balls of paper too. Small soft dog toys. You have a handful lol. She is still a kitten. I have cats that don't mature like your other one does. Genetics play a large part in it.
I have 2 6 year old n/m's and they are monsters. My husband ); will yell at them loud enough they they will stop what they are doing. I would love to get rid of him.

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3/16/10 9:05 A

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She is spayed, and turned 1 year old November 09. We were getting things ready for recycling just now, and I saved a box. You know how cats LOVE boxes. SO, maybe that will help keep her occupied.

www.youtube.com/user/tailof2cats

Here's a link to their YouTube site. I only have one video up so far, but it's mostly of Izzy climbing the tree, and then BeBop joined, which he rarely does.

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3/16/10 8:55 A

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I never indicated or said you were cruel. You said you wanted a way to punish her? Is she spayed? If not that could be a problem. Also she is a very young cat.
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IZZYBEBOP's Photo IZZYBEBOP Posts: 12,813
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I hesitated even posting this thinking someone would think I was a "cruel" cat owner. Trust me, I am NOT! I'm merely trying to find something to distract her. She has never been on a "schedule" to go outside. Right now it's 7AM, pitch black outside, and she'd go out if I let her. But I can't and won't let my cats go in the backyard without me being there with them. Izzy has jumped the neighbors fence twice, so I can't trust her not to do it again. She is definitely in her "terrible twos", like a child.

I work from home, and this constant roaming around my desk area started about two months ago (I wasn't taking her outside then because it was too cold). Since it's warmed up a little she and BeBop have only been outside about three times. So it's really not even that. When they were kittens, they would sit on my lap while I worked. It was so sweet.

Izzy's problem is that she doesn't know how to entertain herself. I've tried getting up, cuddling with her, playing with her, putting in her Cat DVD (which she loves), but nothing works. And I can't very well take my office outside. I have honestly thought about a fenced in run but am on a limited income, so I can't very well do that.

Michelle,

As far as yours go, mine do the same thing. I actually think it's fun to watch, BUT when you have someone sleeping in a public area it can be a nuisance. They're just being active and playing together. I WISH I had your problem. Ours do the same thing in the AM and PM. Mine, on the other hand, are night and day.

BeBop is very silent, keeps to himself, and can spend hours just staring out the window. Izzy, on the other hand, meows and meows, is VERY demanding and if she doesn't get attention, she does things that she knows she's not suppose to do just to get attention. I know that's what she's doing, but being that she's a cat she honestly doesn't understand the word NO. She'll just do it again and again and again.

Honestly, if I took her out in the back yard, and waited until SHE wanted to come in, I'd be out there ALL day. Seriously, she LOVES it outside. When I had Gidget, I'd take her out, but she never demanded it. Izzy is like no other cat I've ever owned, and I'm just having a little trouble trying to figure out what's going on in her mind.

If you think I'm a cruel CAT MOM, that's your opinion. People who know me, know that I am not, and GOD knows that I am not, so that's all that matters to me. Disregard this post unless someone has been through a similar situation and has an idea for me, other than spending money as I don't have it to spend.

Thank you.

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me 3 kittens are wild about an hour before bed and right after getting up. They race through the house like their tails are on fire and if my son is asleep on the sofa, they run, and jump on his feet to be bounced off to run more. They don't even wake him up. His feet are their springboard. Can anyone explain this to me?

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I just read something. You said even putting her in her room doesn't even mean punishment to her.???
How about hiring someone to take her out at least 1x a day. Like a teenage "babysitter"
Why does she need punishment? She is a CAT she is used to her schedule. I said she is like a child, but NOT a child.

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That smell of the spray may drive you out of the house. I am serious if may not work either.
You know what your cat wants. I don't think its her fault to be honest. She is used to a schedule of going out with you, and suddenly , it sounds like you put a halt to it. I doubt she is going to give up until she gets her own way. How long has it been since you have changed her "schedule?" I can't say she is being hyperactive cat. She is spirited and her life has taken a sudden turnaround. She is like a 2 year old in many ways, she needs and is used to her attention. do you have you own home? If so how about a covered run outside?
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My sweet Izzy, I love her SO much, and to her I'm her momma, but she is driving me NUTS lately. About 5-8 times a day, she jumps up on my desk, which wouldn't be so bad, but if I don't catch her before I know it, she's up on the top of my hutch knocking everything down. She'd love it if I would take her outside, but when I have work to do I just can't. Even then, when I do and bring her in, it's just a matter of time before she's at it again.

I've tried everything, and end up resorting to putting her in her room (we have a huge spare room that has their cat tree, food/water and liter box in there). But that doesn't even seem to mean "punishment" to her.

I'm not thinking about getting that spray they make to keep cats off furniture, etc, and spraying it around my desk area like a barrier. I don't mean she's just a little pesty, she's a LOT pesty. I love her dearly, we have couch time every morning, and she cuddles with me in the mornings before I wake up. It's amazing she still loves me.

I do NOT beat her, nor am I cruel to her. I LOVE my cats, they are my babies, but with her it's a constant battle. So, I guess I'll go to PetSmart and get some "no cat spray" and hopefully that will work. I've been trying a homeopathic ointment I found there, when I had to go to get hairball ointment, that is suppose to calm them down, but it doesn't.

BeBop, on the other hand, is just happy doing whatever. But sweet little Izzy LOVES to go outside. She'd live out there if I'd let her, but I will not let them go outside without me being out there to watch them.

Anyway, just thought I'd post here, to vent and maybe get some ideas. If she would just lay beside me that would be fine, but she doesn't.

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