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3/8/12 7:39 P

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I understand that "moderation" is a very subjective statement.

For me moderation is less than one serving. (because of my kidney disease) but yes it can mean something else to you. Your example of alcohol is a good one!

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3/8/12 7:02 P

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Jean, I hear what you are saying, but I still am not on board. "In moderation" - what does that mean? The health community says having 2 drinks a day is "in moderation" and I think that is A LOT of drinking! "In moderation" is too subjective to me. (But, that's why I've OCD!)

Something not subjective is the potassium target we've been given by our doc or dietician. My 'argument' with the article is that this aspect of eating them is not covered. Ditto with fiber, etc. There is no cautionary commentary to check with your dietician blah blah.

So, I'm done with my soap box!


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3/8/12 3:01 P

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As far as I know we can have all of those things in moderation unless you are on dialysis.

I do follow a dialysis diet - however once in a while I indulge in salt free nuts.

I am also a high fiber freak - if I do not have enough fiber in my system then I have other issues. They do recommend that you compare the bars, as some of those bars are very unhealthy for not those of us with CKD but everyone.

As for the potassium levels - again we are all different in our stages and our CKD limitiations. I do not have a potassium problem - again - everything in moderation.

Great info to share - I appreciate your post Claire.


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3/7/12 9:57 A

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I am with you Claire, it says in moderation, but that does not always work. I would eat Almonds before peanuts, and almonds are listed. No dried fruit that i know of would i eat. I cant stand soy milk and it is not supossed to be good for you any way. I never eat fiber bars. Fruits and veggies yes, but again it depends on your diet as to what we can have. I am going to check this with my Renal Dietition and see what she says. And i bet it will be 99% no,no. If you are going to have these things ready to go out the door i know we would have what we are allowed to eat ready to go. emoticon emoticon
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3/5/12 5:46 P

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Here is an article from the National Kidney Foundation "Grab and Go: Top 5 Kidney-Healthy Snacks to Pack in Under 5 Minutes"

They are:
unsalted Peanuts
Fruits, both fresh and dried
Lowfat soymilk
Fiber bars
Fresh whole or cut up vegetables

Soooo. We aren't supposed to eat nuts and seeds, so why are peanuts and soy milk listed? Dried fruit is also a no-no. Ditto fiber bars. The only thing on this list that I've understood is kidney friendly is fresh veggies and fruit. Yes, everything in moderation but the article doesn't give any warnings about managing your potassium with these.

What the heck?

www.kidney.org/news/wkd/grabandgo.cf
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