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11/15/12 9:01 A

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Perhaps you are right about the default macros in the SparkPeople nutrition tracker. 60% is the maximum carb level that is recommended for the some elite athletes and extreme sports or fitness fanatics. Luckily the nutrition tracker is so cool you can adjust your own macros for your percentage of carbs, protein, and fat intake. Starting out in phase one is the ingeniousness of the p90x nutrition system. You up your carbs based on your personal needs...how much intensity do you put into your workouts? When you are just starting out and maybe not so fit... you may not bonk in your workouts for quite a while. As you get fitter you will find that you will need to add good carbs to your meal plans to fuel your workouts.



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11/14/12 10:38 P

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Spark's macros are based on the SAD diet. To many carbs unless you are an elite athlete, I would say...

But, Phase 1 P90X diet plan is not enough carbs for long term. You will burn out your adrenals doing intense exercise and too few carbs.

When I do a low carb day, I only do moderate exercise, like brisk walking. I UP my carbs when doing intense workouts, like P90X. Although, I rarely ever go as high as Spark says either.

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11/14/12 10:27 P

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The Spark People meal plans have WAY too many carbs to work for any of the p90x goals or for my goals. I have been doing spark people for years ( I had another account) carefully following the meal plans, printing out the grocery list week after week, ran 3 marathons (26.2 miles) did an Olympic tri and ran 2,500 miles a year on my own. I never could get the caloric intake right. Basically I was working out all the time and turning my body into mush as a result.
This last marathon really underscored what terrible shape I was in despite all the hours on the track, in the gym and on the greenways, not to mention the road races I did every weekend.
So I am trying this approach with the high protein and see what happens. So far the scale is showing an increase in muscle, decrease in fat and decrease in pounds.


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11/14/12 10:12 P

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Oh man...I block out phase one macros...but it is a good way to slim down. Phase one is not meant to be a forever meal plan. Do it for as long a you can and go back to it as often as you will. 1-3 weeks max. People who can eat clean 100% are perfect. I know there are more than a few on our team. Lean protein, fruits and vegetables, whole grains and good fats. That's all you should eat and don't stuff yourself. The SparkPeople food tracker is a wonderful tool and you can set your macros too! They have great meal plans and you can print out your grocery list...a really nice feature! It all begins and ends at the grocery store. Don't go to the checkout with anything in your basket but lean protein, fruits and vegetables, whole grains (3g fiber or more), and good fats..period.



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11/10/12 4:59 P

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I'm sure it will be well worth it. You could also make your own protein bars???

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11/10/12 3:32 P

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The China Study shows a direct correlation between casein and cancer in lab rats. So I was hoping to avoid casein, however, I have gone ahead and got some whey protein and Pure Protein bars in an effort to get this extra weight off. Extra weight has it's own set of health risks too.
And as a business owner myself, I do have to be practical when it comes to carrying all this meat around all day. Since I clean many houses, it is not like I have easy access to a refrigerator. I prefer not to use my customer's frig and microwave to keep my germs separate from theirs. Also I am going from one house to another and I sure wouldn't want to forget and leave my food in somebodies frig.
So I pack what I can and keep it in a cooler in the car. In the summer here in Tennessee it is 90 degrees plus for at least 8 weeks of the year and over 80 for at least 12 weeks at least. I pack with an ice pack, but given that I am usually cleaning for 10 plus hours a day, that's a LOT of food to pack. I NEVER eat out and would not even think about eating at a fast food place, so there is a whole lot of going hungry.
By the time I get home I am so ravenous I could eat the dog's food.
Today is an off day so I am trucking right along with food choices. I spoke with a friend of mine who is a big weight lifting, competitive and she gave me some super helpful pointers. I went to the Body for Life website and got a basic food list.
I have removed the Spark People food plan and am entering my own foods. Hopefully all this effort will be worth it.

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11/10/12 11:27 A

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Hmmm... I have no problem eating extra meat to make up the protein. Add extra chicken, fish, or eggs.
Also, there is really good whey proteins (and for vegans there is an array of brown rice, hemp, pumpkin seed... etc protein powders). The whey protein I buy is cold filtered, and made from the milk of grassfed cows. Whey and stevia is the only ingredients. It's not as processed as you might think. It's actually way less processed than drinking low fat, pasteurized, milk.

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11/10/12 11:10 A

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I want to eat as much naturally as I can also but I will never get my 25% protein with out 2 protein drinks a day. only way I can get the job done. I run my own company and the protein shakes our my solution. I do not feel guilty or bad. it is what it is and besides, does my body care, NO, it just needs what it needs, and I do my best to meet those needs. I use a 100% whey and a cassien blend for lunch an Probolic SR for my evening drink. Good luck and congrats on the P90X


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11/10/12 10:35 A

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I have a similar problem. I'm vegan so most of what I eat is considered a carb. I eat a lot of dark leafy greens (which have protein), oatmeal (which has protein), beans and tofu. I only eat organic produce and tofu so I know I'm not getting GMOs and other things I don't want. I've been through P90X a few times but can't specifically follow the diet. One of the things a lot of people recommend is nut butters but they are also high in fat. I do use Vega protein powder in my post workout smoothie to help with muscle recovery. It's the only one I trust.

You can use things like chia seeds, flax meal too. They aren't super high in protein but are great additions to the diet. Good luck! I'll be interested in hearing how this goes for you.

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11/10/12 7:54 A

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I have been doing Spark People for years now, I re-set my program so it looks like I am new, but I am not. I like the Spark people meal plans and the grocery list. Makes it wasy.
However, I started P90x last week and in one short week of just doing the P90X exercises only I have seen dramatic results. AND I was sick last week so my "bring it" was not what it normally would be. In fact, one day I was SO sick I had to stop after only 13 minutes due to all the coughing I was doing.
I feel better now.
So I am looking at the nutrition guide and it suggest a 50% protein, 30% carbs and 20% fat. I enter this in to my Spark people page and ran through what I thought would get me to those percentages and to my disappointment, it looks like one would HAVE to use supplements to get to 50% protein. Lean chicken and fish is going in the right direction but at the end of the day, I would still not be at that goal 50% protein and my carbs and fats would be too high.
Because my goal is to eat clean natural healthy food, starting in with processed food, like Shakology or whey protein powders, etc, does not feel like the right answer.
So I am currently frustrated and not sure what to eat.
Help?
And please, no suggestions to eat processed powders, shakes and bars. I want regular clean food.

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