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2/27/12 10:44 A

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Not even sure how I ended up here. I received a link to one of Gary's Taube's videos and I watched it all. It was about 40 minutes.............

Ive been on Sp for nearly 4 years.................... Ive made some major life changes within those years including working out - faithfully logging calories ---------- bike riding - running 5k's - swinging kettlebells............... getting off statin med. havent lost weight = and really havent lost any bodyfat. I find that nothing short of amazing since prior to that I never - ever ever saw the inside of a gym - or cared to.

Ok so ------------- I am 58 years old - within the healthy weight limits for BMI - scale generally shows 137..................... but I can grab that ever unpopular handful of bellyfat. I could afford to lose about 15 pounds..................

I can certainly commit to making a change for 30 days................ and will kickstart my leap year day - 2/29 with that. Since Im religious almost with counting calories......... i can be fairly diciplined with making this change.
\Going to take some before and after pics............... and see where this takes me.
I love research so this gives me the opportunity to learn about carbs................ I never did pay much attention to carbs except for % of my total intake and always fell on the higher side.

I am a coffee drinker - and drink fat free milk. Have to look at how that factors in.


thanks all...................... the journey continues on a new path.






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2/11/12 3:32 P

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Hi MJ,
Thanks for asking this question - and everybody for all the answers.
I've also been trying to slide gently into the paleo lifestyle, and I am now inspired to just jump in. I found a heap of good looking recipes on a website: http://paleodietlifestyle.com/paleo-diet-r
ecipes/, and I'm going to try a few this week, as well as adapt a few that I have and see how I go.
Not sure that I can give up calorie counting yet though...
I'm also going to post a version of this in the accountability topic.
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2/10/12 8:36 A

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I agree with other posters - if you want to give this nutritional approach an honest effort, you will need to go "cold turkey" on your food choices and exercise. For exercise, what's intended is to "move around a lot". That doesn't mean "exercise", it doesn't mean cardio. It means go out walking. Walk when you could drive. Pick things up and carry them around. Maybe start a garden? Grow some of your own healthy veggies and herbs. Get plenty of sleep. Plan for some relaxing and restoring "me" time.

For foods, cut out the processed and GMOs. Spend time really reading the nutrition labels on things - you'd be amazed how many carbs are in nearly everything, and especially things labeled as "healthy"! Ditch the grains. Develop a love for bacon. Choose "real" foods whenever you can; pastured products if possible. Love your veggies!

I've read several accounts similar to yours in which people were disillusioned because they weren't seeing a drop in pounds on the scale, but they were losing inches. Your body redistributes first. Muscle weighs more than fat. You may not see a change on the scale, but if you follow the plan, things will be happening. Really. Don't let your scale be your master. Try to keep it to a once-weekly check. Rely more upon how you're feeling: the first few weeks you should be able to feel something different happening, if you're with the program.

This is a big change for most people, especially given the recommendations promoted by our government and nutritional "experts". It seems to go contrary to all reasonable thought. But it's been proven in many ways to be better attuned to our unique metabolisms. Give it some time. If you truly immerse yourself in the lifestyle and find it doesn't work for you, at least you've given it an honest shot. I think you'll find it will work out, but it's still a matter of "tweaking" to find your particulars. But you can't start out "tweaking". You have to start on the usual path.

Glad to have you here. You can do it! We're here to help.
Please keep us posted on your progress!


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2/9/12 10:11 P

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Overtraining really does lead to weight gain. It's counter-intuitive, given what we've all been taught, but what works is:

- Sleep, make sure you put the sleep first, THEN fix the other things.
- I'd go all-out for the 30 solid days, knowing that you can go back to whatever you want. At least all out with the grains or other foods that have a high glycemic index. It's amazing what lower glycemic index will do.
- Exercise. I steadily gained weight last summer when I committed to run most days 5.5 miles a day, and started eating the "perfect food--beans and rice". By summer's end, I was 6 pounds heavier, and my triglycerides had shot up.

I dropped grains right after Thanksgiving, upped my intake of eggs, meat and vegetables, eating as much as I felt like, and have lost 12 pounds. (I'm now 114 pounds, appropriate on my small frame.) I shifted away from steady cardio each day toward walks, and strength training, but with liberal rest days and sleep my priority!

I deadlifted 95 pounds repeatedly last night, pushups, can do pull ups and chinups unassisted and on my way to more... with WAY fewer hours of exercise.

I'm 46. I changed my life by dropping grains, processed foods, and respecting sleep. Please make a short-term commitment to see the results. I want to read your happy blog when it happens!!!
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Goal Winter & Spring 2012:
Develop an interesting cross-training routine that will be fun for my daughter to join in on.
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2/9/12 8:22 P

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MJ here are a couple of links that might help you find some foods you like. Maybe you can make a few items in bulk, keep in freezer or fridge to heat up quickly later. There are some videos on the two links below on how to cook the dishes which is helpful also.

http://www.rocofit.com/

http://paleoweightlosscoach.com/

I know you can do this, I can tell you are driven and you will figure the food thing out.

Looking for a buddy near Foster City or San Mateo CA.


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2/9/12 7:54 P

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emoticon MJ! I agree with others that you will probably have to do it all the way to get what you want from this. Then you may have to play with your nutrient ratios to see what is best for you. I would not eat ANY of the protein bars I have ever read a label for, so I think if you MUST do something like that have a protein shake with a powder that has minimal or one NATURAL ingredient in it. I have to say that if the exercise is something you enjoy and is not a chore, then do what you like. The cautions on exercise are really designed for way more than most people do from what I have seen. DO read more on it certainly that will help.

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2/9/12 7:01 P

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Thanks for the advice everyone. I appreciate the encouragement. I am still going to slowly (over the course of a few weeks) get into the lifestyle. 1. To transition into a lifestyle not a diet. and 2. to learn to make my own meals (without the convenience of processed foods)

This is definitely something I need to work on. It has been eye opening how much food I eat that is actually processed. So taking my time to incorporate the time and energy and timing of my meals is essential.

I also exercise more than is recommended for the lifestyle. But that is my choice and I enjoy it!

MJ-

Edited by: ZEN_WOMAN at: 2/9/2012 (19:03)
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2/9/12 5:23 P

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Welcome the the group and congratulations for embarking an this amazing journey!

I don't want to come across as harsh or rigid so please don't be offended by what I am about to say...but your own results or lack thereof should validate that fact that half measures aren't working with your food choices! Some people do "ok" by reducing their processed foods but other like you (and ME) might need to get rid of all the processed stuff and let your body heal and repair for past choices before it will let go you any weight!

I started a semi-Paleo diet back in September but didn't see real change until if got serious and really starting following the recommendations laid out in the Paleo literature and podcasts!

I suggest if you want to lean out and get your weight loss moving, you do a strict 30 day elimination diet...remove ALL processed foods, diet soda, grains, legumes, nuts and dairy! As Robb Wolf would say....see how you look, feel and perform and decide what you want to add bsck to your diet!

I have been soda free since 2007 and can't imagine putting that into a body that works so hard!!! If you want you body to perform and respond you need to feed it quality fuel...

The decision is yours but if you really want to reach YOUR goals, you might have to reign things in for a while!

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2/9/12 4:05 P

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It really is 80-90 percent WHAT you eat. sucks but its true.

also, you say you aren't loosing weight after three weeks? but you are losing inches?

make sure you are measuring your body fat, and inches. And give it antoher three/four weeks before freaking out.

when I ramp up the exercise,I may only loose one or two pounds in a month of really watching my food, but I loose fat.

And if I could wear the size I wanted does the scale really matter?

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2/9/12 3:45 P

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You might want to spend some more time reading about the Paleo lifestyle. You are exercising WAY too much. WAY too much cardio, etc. Twice a day workouts??? NOT Paleo. Daily workouts? NOT Paleo.

You need to drop the garbage out of your diet. Throw out the protein bars. Stop the soft drinks.

If you want to do Paleo, do it. RELAX. Stop counting anything. Get rid of junk.



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2/9/12 3:37 P

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Good Luck, I know you will figure it out soon. You are trying different things and that is great. I'm not an expert and I just started but from reading tons of things on paleo out there, I'd say try upping your FAT intake and try to go cold turkey on breads and processed foods. Only eat what is natural. I wish you the best of luck, keep us posted so we can celebrate with you. You are doing amazing on exercise. Something I need to work on.

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Hey Paeo friends,


Just wanted to check in and let everyone know what is going on in my world.

This morning I weighed in (again) at 191.5 and to tell you the truth I am very disappointed with that number. My trainer this week said I "wear my weight well" but that is not the most flattering compliment. At least I am getting back into some of the clothes I was wearing last year at 180. But pants are a sore point for me because my thighs and butt have bulked up so much that I can only wear 2 of my current pants.

My reason for my frustration is I have literally been working on my food intake for the past 3 weeks and changed my exercise routine for the month of Jan and Feb. But I am still at the same starting weight. I was hoping to be losing at least 1-2 pounds a week. Nothing earth shattering. (a very reasonable expectation given my new plan) For the past 3 weeks, I have been reducing my bread and processed food intake and increasing my protein amt. I have been trying to limit my diet coke intake to 1 a day and have increased my water to around 90oz and day. To keep me honest, I have been writing all of my calories down and tracking my water and diet coke intake.

The goal is eventually to get closer to the Paleo diet (no grains or breads- except protein bars after my workouts) I am hoping this eating plan will help me lean out and strip the fat deposits (currently overshadowing my muscle definitions) I even met with a nutritionist on MLK day (Jan. 16th) to go over a new eating plan and discuss how much weight I should be shooting for and what body fat % I want to get down to.

Below is my current workout schedule: which hopefully fits nicely with the Paeo lifestyle.

Workout schedule:
Monday lunch: stability ball class (low intensity)
Monday evening: Boxing class (high intensity)

Tuesday lunch: TRX class (strength training/ high intensity)

Wednesday Lunch: stability ball class (low intensity)
Wednesday evening: currently free (fill in with pilates at home or aerobics)

Thursday: Free (back to kick boxing in March) (high intensity)

Friday: Free (fill with swimming) (low intensity)

Saturday: Sparring Class (gym) (high intensity)

Sunday: Free (fill with stretching and roller exercises) (low intensity)

I definitely have room to increase my aerobics sessions since I am taking a break from kickboxing for the month of Feb. Or work on my pilates exercises on the reformer to help elongate my muscles. Right now I feel very tight, compact and bulky. Three things that make me feel sore all the time.

Wish me luck on this new journey. I am hoping that I can see a huge change by the end of 12 weeks.

If anyone has any helpful hints on how I can get better results with my goals I would love to know. Also I am looking for new spark friends to check in with on a weekly basis if anyone is interested. Please post on my page.

MJ-

Edited by: ZEN_WOMAN at: 2/9/2012 (15:24)
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