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2/1/10 10:45 P

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I know this is a really old conversation but IMO Jillian isn't really bagging on a little bit of tofu, soymilk or edamame here and there, it's the processed fake meat that is full of soy protein. It's also the fact that soy is cheap and nearly all junk food has some type of refined soy added. If you are eating traditional soy like tempeh, miso or shoyu/tamari, I don't think you have a problem. If you are eating 3 veggie burgers a day that are entirely made up of concentrated soy protein, then your are asking for trouble. Again, just my two cents. When I was a vegan I ate a ton of soy and felt really crappy. I think there are much healthier ways to eat a vegetarian/vegan diet than rely on fake meat products.



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10/4/09 11:43 A

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One factor might be the quality of the soy itself. I tend to think of soy as a healthy food choice and am less suspicious of its source than many traditionally produced American foods. It is possible, however, that companies have cashed in on its popularity just the same as any other popular product. Maybe we all need to make sure the soy isn't full of pesticides and chemicals. Maybe production methods have something to do with the difference in Asian and American soy consumption....just a thought.

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9/28/09 11:16 P

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Yes, I was crazy into soy. I'm a vegetarian and to top it off, I'm lactose intolerant. So soy seemed like the perfect solution. However, in the past 3 years I've been having having problems with uterine growths thus making it really hard for me to get pregnant. I don't know if it's the soy, but several people have been suggesting that maybe I make some changes just in case. So I did. We'll see how that goes. I think losing weight will also help. So you can see, I'm really motivated! :)

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9/28/09 7:15 P

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ellie, so you must have really been big into soy?...for the most part it is still new to me...i've incorporated more and more into my diet.....

so funny how everything really just goes back to eating moderate portions of a well-rounded diet.....

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ELLIEM6's Photo ELLIEM6 Posts: 16
9/26/09 6:55 P

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I am currently reading her book and I am cutting back on soy. I have nothing to lose because I am plagued with issues that I think might be caused by the amount of soy I had been eating, (hair loss, weight gain, uterine and breast cysts, polyps, fibroids. I have had my thyroid checked twice and the drs say everything is fine other than my cholesterol being slightly elevated. I have been trying to get pregnant for almost 2 years and I figured I might as well try this and cut back on the soy products just in case they are causing the uterine issues.

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8/17/09 11:14 A

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that husband could also just be very jealous of her drive, determination and motivation....

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8/17/09 10:21 A

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That is why I don't take Jillian's nutrition advice. Soy is a good alternative for protein for veggies. It is a good alternative for those who are lactose intolerant. It is a good alternative for those who don't like milk. I drink a cup of soy milk once a day and I haven't had any hormonal issues to date. Whoever says soy is bad to eat I don't listen to period.

And I'm sorry but to the lady with the bad hubby I will say that you can do so much better than that. My hubby would never ever... Keep up with your diet and strive to be who you want to be. You have to be satisfied with your own body. If you are doing this for someone else you will ultimately fail. This whole nutrition and fitness thing she be all about you. Off my soapbox.

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8/16/09 3:18 P

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Iwannashrink-

I'm really waffling on the soy. Many of my friends are Asian & I have travelled extensively and never saw an overweight person who ate a traditional diet- western yes

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8/16/09 2:17 P

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oh geeze, this is where i have problems with the 'word according to XYZ'....

i love JM, but soy has been part of many asian cultures for eons...of late, i haven't heard any alarming reports about the detrimental affects of soy on the asian population...

sorry to be so sarcastic....


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8/16/09 8:55 A

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Jillian just did a tv special on Fox yesterday on Mastering your Metabolism. I recorded it on dvr and plan to watch it today. I have thought about buying the book a couple different times and never have.

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8/16/09 7:40 A

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Bijoux7 - how tall are you? I don't mean to sound judgemental, but 135 is small if you are 5'4 or taller IMO. I'm sorry to hear your current weight is affecting your relationship. I hope your husband will be more accepting should you bcome pregnant, if you haven't at this point.

I'm struggling with the same thing - the scale won't budge. It's so frustrating. I just started reading MYM and I'm very interested in what Jillian has to say. I recently download her radio show back to Dec/08 on itunes. You can download it for free. It's under KFI 640 AM - then look for Sunday. Then pick her podcasts. I was very impressed with her knowledge on both nutrition and fitness.

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8/16/09 2:02 A

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Iwannashrink,

JM says to no soy as it contains estrogen type substances which can throw one's hormone level off. The theme of her book suggest that the typical American diet is so full of garbage such as artificial sweeteners, corn syrup, pesticides, hormones from meat and "fake foods" that it changes the biochemistry of our bodies leading to such conditions as insulin resistance. So she suggests organic whenever possible. I am all for clean eating except when that food used to be an animal. Soy is a huge part of my diet....according to JM and her team of experts that is what could be keeping the needle on my scale from moving to the left. Which in my case could be true- after killing myself with the Shred, walking everywhere on campus, and my tofu version of healthy eating within my calorie guidelines, I have lost a scant 5 pounds since June. Inches yes, major poundage no. The latter is very frustrating as my husband thinks 135 (size 4) is huge and is sleeping in the guest room because of it. He wants the size 00 he married back....and I don't think that Bijoux will ever return

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8/16/09 12:13 A

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I have no idea because you have to pay to see the nutrition info on Jillian's site and I don't think I'll ever do that, but if I run into someone who has I'll ask.

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8/16/09 12:01 A

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hi blackandi,
i am wondering if you have any idea if the fitness and eating plan that jillian has on her website is the same plan as she has in her "making the cut" book? i live in israel and i don't have a way of getting her book....
thanks

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8/15/09 10:49 P

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I do not take Jillian's advice about nutrition ever, but I do take her advice about fitness because I think she excels at that.

I have adapted some veggie ways, but I am not one and I get most of my information from Tosca Reno's book, "The Eat-Clean Diet Expanded Version." I use soy as an alternative to cows milk and for added protein.

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8/15/09 7:44 P

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she says no to soy?...what are her reasons?

i am a big soy fan---vanilla soy milk, tofu, and edamame

i also eat meat and fish, but not in crazy amounts

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8/15/09 6:43 P

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I've started reading Jillian's MYM. Flipped to the back of the book and saw how heavy on the meat/fish the food plans are. Are there any vegetarians who are using the book? I need ideas as JM says no to soy.

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