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4/29/09 7:25 A

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Thanks, Sonya! That was a very straight-forward article: salt is salt, one comes from the sea, one comes from mines. We need to monitor our intake either way.

Buddha: Let us rise up and be thankful, for if we didn't learn a lot today, at least we learned a little, and if we didn't learn a little, at least we didn't get sick, and if we got sick, at least we didn't die; so, let us all be thankful.



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4/28/09 8:26 A

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I can remember my mother being told years ago to switch to sea salt. Most info since then seems muddy; but it IS still salt. This is a brief but good article about it:
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4/27/09 11:33 P

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I read an article that said sea salt was lower in sodium. I also love rosemary on chicken.Delicious!!!

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I use a lot of fresh herbs and really enjoy it. If you aren't used to it, I suggest you start off small, for example, when doing your chicken, place a very small (and I mean small) piece of rosemary under the skin and a sprig of thyme - you won't even notice there isn't any salt.

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My best advice is read the label on EVERYTHING; most especially any thing in the freezer or refrigerated sections of your grocery store. I don't use salt anymore except when I bake chicken (can't get away from the skin, yet, and it has to have salt). I don't add salt to recipes. I've noticed quite a few SP recipes call for salt. Other lo cal, lo fat recipes too.

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...oh and by the way, there is a brand of lunch meats that are cut in your deli that is called "Boars Head" they have a pamplet on the nutrients of all their meats and they even have a few that are considered heart smart.

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Just wanted to weigh in on the salt/sodium debate. My other half has a cardiologist that is researcher also. He has enlightened me and Jack on a few accounts.

1.....salt isn't the problem, it's sodium, and he seriously suggests changing to sea salt since the gentic makeup is a little different in the metabolic system. His take is also that the problem is more of an addiction. Hence people automatically resalt when they don't need to.

2......rinse all canned food. He says it takes out quite a bit but still there is added sodium.


I think tho that regular practitioners have a tendency not to look at the whole picture of their patient, whereas a cardiologist has to learn their patients lifestyle a little in order to better treat them. The cardiologist may not feel that the salt is the problem but that it may be a lack of cardio exercise.

I know my own dr. knows how much I love my salt, and did threaten me with meds, but then he also gave me a chance to bring it down myself. I'm not a great exercise fan but the 3 times a week curves routine was just enough to keep me off of meds. His point was that the body needs quite a bit more exercise to keep it running correctly. On the same note I have a friend who is in ultra condition and is on meds for hbp. She exercises well over 4 hours a day and does no salt....so I think maybe we need to really pay attention to our bodies so we know what does effect it. Her problem is that the heart is a muscle and she has worked her body so hard that her heart is actually working too hard, thus making it "hard".

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Very glad they were benign and I know what you mean. I had a hysterectomy that nearly killed me. I lost a ton of weight (huge benign fibroids) and then instant menopause. Before I knew it, I had gained 20 pounds. My doctor was horrified as well. It is a struggle to lose every ounce now, but as you say, we just need to keep looking forward. We'll never reach our goals if we don't try.

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4/23/09 1:48 P

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Your grandson is very cute - looks like a happy guy. They took the left side of my thyroid out due to nodules (growths) that luckily were begnin. I have fought with my weight all my life and had managed to keep it under control for years and then -no warning, it started creeping up and up, etc. I didn't even weight this much when I was pregnant! It is no sense looking back, only forward.

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It's definitely a struggle. My thyroid's fine, but I'm on a drug that's supposed to prevent breast cancer and the hormones in it make it really hard to lose weight. Plus it makes my triglycerides go up, so I also have to watch carbs. I hope that I can get off this drug later this year. It also causes hot flashes! Guess we just have to be tough and roll with the punches. My inspiration is my grandson. He's an active little guy who needs an active grandmother.

Remember, nobody can go back to the very beginning and make a brand new start, but anyone can start here and make a brand new end.

There's a difference between interest and commitment. When you're interested in doing something, you do it only when it's convenient. When you're committed to something, you accept no excuses; only results."

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4/23/09 1:07 P

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When I was diagnosed with hypertension 3 yrs ago, I went online and found the Canadian Heart & Stroke Foundation web site. I signed up to receive their weekly emag and then other programs they have available. It was through their site that I learned of the DASH diet, not from my doctors. I then started to research the diet, found other sites, got as much info as I could and went on the diet. My doctors only applauded after I told them I was on this diet. I saw my cardio, in fact, yesterday, and he is pleased and doesn't want to see me for another year and no meds, either.
A side-bar: unknown to me I was suffering also from hypothyroidism and so I gained weight on the diet even tho I was reducing my blood pressure! It was my endocrinologist who suggested that I reduce the amount of carbs that I am eating (not to unhealthy amounts) in order to loose some weight. So far, its working but its taking a long time.

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My husband had his kidney specialist tell him that it didn't matter how much sodium he ate. He was referred to this doctor for wildly out of control blood pressure and he wasn't the only doctor who's said don't worry about sodium, which is exactly what my husband wanted to hear. He currently seeing a cardiologist who told us just to try to keep sodium below 2,000. We've yet to run across a doctor who's recommended the DASH diet, or any type of diet to help bring down blood pressure. Something is wrong with this picture. These doctors are all in Boulder, CO, which is supposed to be one of the healthier places in the country.

Watched Michael Pollan on Oprah last night. He said we now have to eat two apples to get the same nutrition that our grandparents got from one apple. That's a lot of increased calories. Imagine how much more effective the DASH diet would be if our food chain was pure.

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4/23/09 6:56 A

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The DASH diet was concieved as an assistance for people to lower their sodium intake. It is lower in sugar because thats healthier eating. When you start the lower your sodium, you have to work on balancing the other minerals in your body: potassium, magnesium and calcium most important. This diet does that without supplements. The intro I read states that the diet was not concieved for people to loose weight but people do because most folks eat too much and the wrong foods. I gained weight on the diet and am only starting to loose weight because it is stresses carbs and I was recently diagnosed with hypothyroidism. My endocronologist suggested that I reduce my carb intake (but not to unhealthy limits) in order to start loosing weight and its working. I don't know of any doctor who is confused about salt - they all condone less use of not just salt but sodium as a shole and they all agree that it is a healthier alternative.

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In addition to sodium, the DASH diet also limits simple sugars. Makes me wonder if the success of the DASH diet is dependent on limiting sugar in addition to salt and that's why doctors are so confused about salt. For best results, it seem like you need to limit salt and sugar.

Remember, nobody can go back to the very beginning and make a brand new start, but anyone can start here and make a brand new end.

There's a difference between interest and commitment. When you're interested in doing something, you do it only when it's convenient. When you're committed to something, you accept no excuses; only results."

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4/22/09 7:10 P

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I'm not surprised. My GP told me flat out he doesn't think sodium has anything to do with hbp. My cardiologist just said try to keep it under 2,000 mgs. Doctors are so blindly enamored of pharmaceutical solutions to everything that they refuse to see any other kinds of solutions.

Buddha: Let us rise up and be thankful, for if we didn't learn a lot today, at least we learned a little, and if we didn't learn a little, at least we didn't get sick, and if we got sick, at least we didn't die; so, let us all be thankful.



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4/22/09 3:35 P

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The "DASH" diet is a medically approved diet for people with high blood pressure to limit their sodium. It stands for Dietary Approach to Stop Hypertension. You can get more information on it from sparkpeople -- put in DASH diet in search; from the Mayo Clinic; from the American Heart and Lung Association. My cardiologist, GP and endocrinologist are all so pleased that I am following this diet because my blood pressure is under control! I highly recommend that you read up on it.

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4/22/09 2:22 P

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wow..are you even serious? NONE of them?



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I have had high blood pressure all of my adult life and no doctor who has ever seen me has suggested that I limit my sodium. Is there something I don't know or is it my doctors?

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What you have to realize is that salt is made of sodium, but that sodium is everywhere and its sodium thats the killer. Sparkpeople have the DASH diet, I suggest you go into the SEARCH, put in DASH and read, and learn. Sodium is in just about every food we eat. Exercise - I have been able to reduce my blood pressure so that I am off medication and have been for 6 mos (WED will tell - I see my cardio then) but thats how I did it. Good Luck

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4/15/09 4:52 P

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I agree that salt is everywhere. Here is a site that has a lot of healthy recipes. www.zonya.com/tv.html She has a show on KET that is on 10:30am eastern.

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As far as good brands that make and sell low sodium they are out there the stores just need to know we are willing to buy them. Talk to your store manager and ask if you can get him to order you the no salt added brands. At my local up scale grocery myself and a family I don't know have hounded them so much they now have a whole section devoted to gluten-free foods. And even many like Ezekiel and rice bread etc. in the freezer section. Just ask.

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I use "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter" spray, not every day. My lipids have always been low, last test my #s were still - total cholesterol @ 128 & trigs ~70. My chol's never been over 128 & my trig's never over 100.

So, I just buy unsalted butter for when I want 'real' stuff.

I'll have to check out the no-sugar/no-salt bread at Trader Joe's. Silver Hills Bakery used to make a no-sugar bread. I luv their Flax bread & Costco has it. All the Ezekiel breads are wonderful, Silver Hills is another sprouted grain bread. I used to live 3 1/2 miles from Rainier Bakery that makes the Ezekiel breads. For a quick bike ride I'd ride out the highway to the bakery & turn around. I just don't eat bread everyday.

Fred Meyer has no-salt bread in their freezer section but nobody here wants it. Even the 'Wheat' variety has almost no fiber. Looks they left out the other nutrients b/s salt, too!

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I also use Smart Balance

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I use Smart Balance, also. But I must confess...every now and then I use a little butter.

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4/14/09 9:04 A

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I love butter, as well as bread. Always have..I'd hide under the table and eat it as a kid, LOL! Can we say McButterton? I use Smart Balance for BP now. Of course, in small print, it says helps maintain an already normal BP, but..I'm trying.



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I've tried several of the Ezekiel flavors and I like them best toasted. The loaves come frozen and I keep them in the refrigerator. I'm seeing more and more no- or low-sodium canned foods, but you have to get down on your hands and knees and hunt for them. LOL.

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4/14/09 1:37 A

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I tried the low (really, no-) sodium Ezekiel bread today. It obviously tastes different from most bread, but I liked it. That said, I did put light butter on it, which had some sodium I'm sure. Interestingly, my 14 month-old daughter seemed to like it better than the salty fattening focaccia bread that we had!

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I need to check out more of the Eden brand of things anyway; I keep hearing good things about them and they do seem to have little or no salt. Will have to check next time I'm at the grocery store.

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I'd love to find some Ezekiel (or other no sodium) bread. I *love* breads, and am so sad there is so much sodium in them.



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Thanks for the tip, Genteel. I shop at Trader Joe's a lot, so I will look for it. I've also noticed that Trader Joe's doesn't seem to add salt to their frozen veggies, where most frozen veggies do have added salt, which I don't understand.
Does anyone have recommendations for frozen veggies w/ no salt, and/or refried beans with lower sodium?
I've noticed Eden organic has canned beans without added salt, or not much.

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We recently bought some no sodium/no sugar bread from Trader Joe's and it was whole wheat too! My husband thinks it tastes pretty good as well. If you have a Trader Joe's near you, I would recommend it

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I really identify with this topic! Although I've had HBP for about 3 years, I haven't been tracking my nutrients that closely until I started Sparkpeople a few weeks ago. I'm keeping close to the recommended 2.3 g, but I've yet to get a lot lower. I just bought the Ezekiel no-sodium bread. I haven't tried it yet, but I am fascinated with it. I'd love it if people on this board could recommend good low-sodium products/web resources!


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I just had a pb&j on whole wheat bread. 440 mg of sodium in the bread! I guess I will go back to the Ezekiel no-sodium bread. My bp has been a little higher -- since they put me on Exforge I stopped paying attention to the sodium, plus I'm under some stress the next few weeks. Time to go back to DASH!

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Our bodies need a certain amount of salt. The amount we need is the amount that is naturally IN foods. There really is no need to add any more. We read allsorts of things thattell us we HAVE to add salt to improve the flavor, or to preserve the food or to make it cook faster or keep it from sticking, etc. etc. It's ALL bs. Use spices and herbs. Much better for us.

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Salt is addictive and it seems the more you eat the more you want and you drink and eat salty stuff and drink more. The vicious diet cycle that got us in trouble to start with. I think though most of us will agree with what others have said that once you cut back on the salt, then things taste VERY VERY bad that are salty. THAT MUST BE A CLUE!

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Salt actually IS an addictive substance. And yup, you can sure tell a difference, once you've embraced the no/low sodium lifestyle! My daughter brought over TacoBell for lunch one day, and it tasted like a salt block to me.
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I checked the SP nutrition for broccoli and it lists sodium too. I guess it naturally contains sodium.

Today I found canned Health Valley vegetarian chili with no added salt. It still had 75 mg per serving, but that's really low for a canned product. Can't wait to try it.

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I picked up a bag of precut broccoli and saw that a serving contained 25 mg of sodium. Huh?

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Once you go a few weeks with a very low sodium diet you'll wonder how you were eating that stuff!!! Our taste buds have been ruined! Last year I thought I was doing really good by eating Panera Bread salads until I found out a days worth of salt is in half a salad!!! Why??? We're being pickled!

There are lots of good web sites about sodium and what to eat and sources of sodium free foods...start googleing!!!

I feel so much better since I have been watching the sodium intake, (my cardiologist told me to do so) , and I can tell when I have gone over I just puff right up! The SPARKPEOPLE nutrition tracker has really helped me, I can see where I am daily with my mineral intakes. emoticon



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Thanks all. I am tracking every morsel and drop I put in my mouth everyday. This program makes it easy, very easy. I will follow your advise, and start watching those things I've listed with the most sodium, and try to find substitutes.

You're only as old as you feel. So I guess you should do whatever it takes to FEEL better if you want to stay young.


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I had a mind boggling eye-opening lesson when I had to cut the salt back. Wow is it easy to over load when you just eat out, especially fast food. JUST FOLLOW A BALANCED DIET OF BASICS! It is hard but it can be done. Drink plenty of water and eat un-processed foods and exercise excercise to burn it off and sweat it out to achieve the greatest results. More friuts and vegetables (fresh if possible) and very little meat and low carbs. Cook you own meals at home as much as you can. Read those labels. Yes, the grocery store and pre-packaged commercial foods and fast food places are pushing the salt and making us all un-healthy. And anything without salt they make us pay extra for.

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The meats that are packaged in your store are probably ok, but I wouldn't swear to that. ALL of the national brands will be loaded with sodium. Also, I just peeked in the Nutritional and Dietary Guide from Subway, and I found that essentially ALL of their sandwiches have more than 1,000 mg of sodium, with the exception of the Veggie Delight, with 'only' 520 mg and the Ham (770mg) Roast Beef (660mg) and Turkey Breast (640 mg) and the Italian B.M.T. has a whopping 1790 mg! These are without any dressing! And their breads are no better, with the Carb Conscious Wrap hitting 680 mg. The others range from 280 to 540 mg. The salad dressings are also high, with the Red Wine Vinaigrette topping out at 910 mg, and even the Atkins Honey Mustard and Ranch coming in at 550 mg each. My favorites are Fat Fee Honey Mustard Sauce (115 mg) and Fat Free Sweet Onion Sauce (85 mg) and Chipotle Southwest Sauce (220 mg) but it also has 10 gms of fat. So just because they tell you it's healthy doesn't mean that it is. We have to ever vigilant and alert.

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You have to look closely at the label to see if they've injected salt water. Stores in my area carry a lot of Hormel fresh pork products. The Always Tender chops are injected with sodium and the Natural Choice chops aren't. Of course the Natural Choice are more expensive, but I can't stand the texture of the Always Tender products, nor do I need the sodium. The same goes for chicken. So far beef is the only meat in my area that they haven't messed with.

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Anything that comes in a box or a resturaunt of any kind will have 5X the salt if you made it at home ~smiles~

Salt is still the major preservative in foods, especially sandwhich meats & canned foods ~smiles~

The only way you will ever meet your salt intake is buy eating nothing but whole and natural foods ~smiles~.

I don't want to live that way. I still like to eat some junk now and then, but I mostly eat whole grains, fruits, veggies, low sodium meats, etc.

Drinking lots of water helps flush salt and also helps with water retention, albeit for a few it can do the exact opposite. ~chuckles~

For now keep track of the big 5:

Calories, Fat, Protien, Carbs, and fiber, as you get more accustomed to what you need you will start to naturally take your salt intake down.

You might think a subway sandwhich is good for you ,and essentially it is minus the preservatives, pestiside residues, and the whopping 500+ mg of sodium per 6" sub ~smiles~.

You are doing the right thing by being inquisitive and opening your eyes...it will help you tremendously in this process/journey! ~smiles~

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At first, cutting out sodium was really hard for me. But now I'm usually under the limit. I cut out most processed foods and swap out low-sodium versions of what I do use. It takes some getting used to, but it can be done.

Another side effect is that when we go out to restaurants, the food seems so salty to me now!

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Like I said in a previous post: it seems like salt is stalking us! Now you tell me poultry is being injected with sodium. Is this on the label? I try to buy kosher chicken when possible and will look more closely at "fresh" meat packages in the future.

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I've managed to get to 4500mg of potassium a few times, but it is hard. I don't have as much trouble with sodium. Most of the canned goods are now no-salt and that helps. SP says rinsing canned beans and veggies removes half of the sodium, so I did that to use up the canned beans. I gave a lot of the canned tomatoes to my daughter. Costco sells S&W organic tomato paste that's low in sodium and very tasty. Maple Grove Fat Free salad dressings are the lowest in sodium that I've found. When you stop buying foods with HFCS, you really cut into your options too. Maybe some day the food conglomerates will get a clue, but until then, you just have to be vigilant.

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Watch the fresh meats too. They inject chicken for sure. I'm not sure about beef. Here is a quote:

"What is the rationale for adding this liquid to chicken, pork, turkey and beef?

Food companies claim that the injected solution makes the meat more tender and flavorful and better able to retain moisture during cooking. However, critics say that it results in meats that are "mushy" and salty. And, of course, there is the profit incentive since consumers are paying hefty prices for the solution, which may be 15 percent of the weight of the product.

Other than those who grill, are there other people affected by the enhanced meats?

For people on low sodium diets, the enhancements can make choosing meat very difficult. One study found that 4 ounces of chicken breast that had been injected with a salt solution had 540 milligrams of sodium. That's more than a quarter of the recommended daily allowance of sodium for healthy adults.

Also people who follow any type of a recipe need to be aware of the higher sodium levels. For example, beef stew made with "enhanced" meat will require considerably less salt and may cook much faster than meat that hasn't been injected.

Are there meat products that aren't injected with these liquids?

Yes, but they are becoming increasingly difficult to find. Unfortunately, many consumers aren't aware of what has happened to fresh meats. One consumer study found that 60 percent of consumers weren't aware that meats are being injected with a salt solution. If you object to the fact that you can't find meats without these additives, tell the store manager."

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That's right. And when you buy your meats at the deli counter, you don't get to read the lables when they slice it up for you. ALL of those delicious looking hams and roast beefs and turkeys are LOADED with sodium! The solution? Buy fresh cuts of meat and cook them yourself. That's the only way. Sad, but true. Besides that, we should be cutting back on all that meat, anyway.

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Watch out for meats too. They inject them with salt water. Read the labels!

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Welcome to the world of label reading. It *is* horrifying! But, you will adjust. I know in the beginning, I didnt think it possible either..what on earth am I going to eat?! But you learn to read EVERY label, and to do pretty much all your own food preparation. Another benefit is, you'll be eating healthier things in general.



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My doctor has asked me to stay under 2,000 mg of sodium and I don't find it difficult to do if I stay away from processed foods which I consider to be "food made by companies." If you look at the sodium sticky thread you will see that many people are able to keep their sodium levels down. Focus on vegetables, fruit, whole grains, and lowfat dairy and meats.

As far as potassium goes, it is very difficult to get 4,700 mg. My doctor feels that 3,000 is enough and my potassium blood levels are normal.

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You are right. And BECAUSE salt IS in everything, I allow myself 3,000 mg. It is almost impossible to stay at 1800. Since salt is not an issue with weight loss, I monitor FAT grams more.

To help your blood pressure, be sure to get at least 4700 mg. or MORE of potassium which is an essential electrolyte.

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I am a newbie, and when I started tracking my meals, I am staying within recommendations for everything except SALT! I don't go to fast food places any more, and I stopped using the salt shaker a couple of weeks ago. I never realized how much sodium is in everything we eat. How can I eat enough protein, fat, and carbs without going over 3000mg of sodium everyday???

You're only as old as you feel. So I guess you should do whatever it takes to FEEL better if you want to stay young.


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