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I drive my family crazy and, some of my friends because I only want to eat organic and there aren't many places that serve organic when eating out!
I'd rather eat home where I've chosen and shopped very carefully to help my body survive and improve from Fibromyalgia.
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I started out top weight 245 but that was when I actually got on a scale. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia almost 20 years ago. Over the years I've learned that I do so much better when I eat organic foods and I haven't eaten red meat in years I have been gradually working more raw foods, vegetables and fruit into my diet. I avoid drive through resturants like the plague.


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I'm new to vegetarianism. I just went shopping yesterday to gather my ingredients. I just make sure the products I buy are GMO-free. That means any soy meat replacers. I bought veggie burgers non-GMO from Lightlife. I got non-GMO tofu too.

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no really. i prepare the meal as usual and add my substitute in my food and the meat in for my family

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Thanks for the suggestions about using bulgur instead of TVP.
Have started to transition over to it and like it much better.
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The bulgur needs to be cooked for about 10 minutes. When I use it in chile, I toss about a 1/2 cup in the sauce about 1/2 hour before I want to eat it so it can absorb the flavors of all of the spices. When I use if for tacos, etc. I soak/simmer it in a hot N0 beef broth for about 10 minutes and let it cool a little before I use it just like TVP. Happy Herbivore has a TVP taco "meat" recipe that I use bulgur for instead of the tvp and I just substitute the bulgur and do exactly the same things except use bulgur. It is good and much better for you. happyherbivore.com/2009/05/vegan-tac
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2/15/13 5:34 P

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Do you have to cook it first like other grains, or can you just soak it like TVP?

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2/15/13 5:10 P

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Janae954, try bulgur instead of TVP. TVP is really very very very processed. Bulger is a grain and it is very good for you. (unless of course you are allergic to gluten) You can use it one for one in any recipe that calls for TVP.

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I agree.

For me personally, the products I've found like already form not-chicken tenders or not meat burgers have so much sodium and other additives that make me scared of them.

I keep looking for ready made products, and also recipes for me to fix my own.

I think it's easier for me since I'm retired.



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While creating all your food from scratch and eating 100% organic vegan might be the very best choice, I feel it is important to remember that we're all at different points on our healthy eating path. Although I pretty much abhor the fake meat substitutes, I do understand that they help some people and are likely a much healthier choice that what those people ate in the past...

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2/15/13 3:12 P

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No
I use a lot of TVP as a ground meat substitute.
Beginning to love it.

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Bravelute: Exactly!

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I have trouble with processed anything, particularly substitutes, and prefer to start from whole foods. I make my own food balls or mixtures for a sauce to go on grains. So I don't have trouble with "meat substitutes" as long as I make them myself. But I don't think of them as substitutes. After all, I'm not switching out for something with the same properties: saturated fats, possible hormones, mercury poisoning. I'm just trying to make better choices that are delicious and support my quest for reaching a healthy weight.

I am new to the team and am surprised at the number of members who are substituting processed protein powders for whole foods. Since I'm not sure why, I'll just gently say it reminds me of all my low calorie diets where I lost a lot over and over, gained it back and then some, and saw my health go down hill after each diet. I just don't see how the manufacturers can put everything I need for my health in 3-6 ounces of powder a day. Plus, I don't trust them.

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1/31/13 9:08 P

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not at all

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1/31/13 2:43 P

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thanks for all the suggestions. I especially love the site to put in foods and make a loaf.
am going to try a lentil loaf for dinner. It is a recipe from sparkpeople. I also saw where you can make a patty from refried beans. I saw it on t.v. but didn't get the recipe. Am going to search for it. Thanks again.


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I have only tried a few but glad to see that some of you have suggested other items. Thanks!

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I use a lot of TVP bits and chunks.
Also tofu.
Also nutritional yeast.
Took some getting used to but really like it now.
Texturized vegetable protein seems to take on the flavor of spices and other ingredients.
Just made a vegetarian chili with the bits.
No one could tell it was a soy product.

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I really don't like the store bought meat substitutes. Have only ever had them when at a friend's house and they don't know what to feed a vegetarian so get these... I do make my own veggie patties (but don't think of them as burgers). I just experiment with what is in the fridge/pantry - chickpeas and butternut with lots of spices is my current favourite (probably make about once a month?) - but it is really more like a giant falafel

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I'm with Anne-Margaret, JulesRules78, and Petalia ... the store-bought "fake meats" and "meat look-alikes" do not appeal to me at all. I do enjoy making some loafs, however, I don't view them as a "meatloaf" substitute, they are simply a vegetarian casserole of some sort or another. (Garbanzo-cheese loaf being a family favorite.)

Not a big fan of soy either, though I have the occasional soy if it is ORGANIC and either sprouted or fermented.

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1/30/13 5:33 P

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ANNE-MARGARET: I'm totally with you. For me, whether it's described as faux meat or simply a lentil loaf, I am not attracted to these foods. I was perplexed about my taste, enough to have written about it recently on another thread on this team's pages: www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/Team_mes
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Soy is the problem for me. The majority of substitues ,cheese and meat,available in the major store I shop in are made with soy, which I'm allergic to (I found out the hard way). I like setian, but don't eat it too much.

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I agree, I don't think of them as meat substitutes but rather soy, wheat, or grains that can be used instead of meat in most dishes. Foods like Seitan, TVP, and Tempeh are commonly referred to as meat substitutes but they are really plants that can be used in dishes like "sloppy joes", stir-fry's, etc...so some can get creative and use them to make "ribs". But these are natural foods, not chemically modified food substitutes.

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I actually don't have indigestion problems with meat substitutes if they are truly natural ingredients versus GMOs. I do have a problem with foods that contain Chicory Root Extract, which is a plant based Fiber additive and also some sugar substitutes. So perhaps the meat substitutes you're trying have too many GMOs that your body does not process normally.

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Anne-Margaret,

I am feeling like this more and more. I like a good lentil loaf, but Gardein burgers were just a little too "real" for me. Great for people still used to the meat thing, but even the smell made me a little nauseated. Fake meats can be good as a transition product for those who are still accustomed to the taste/smell of meat, but once your taste buds have change they are not as pleasant any more.

HAWTGRANNY2014,

Homemade will always be best, and you should experiment to see it if is indeed the soy. It could be other preservatives that are causing stomach issues.

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I do enjoy the Yves products. www.yvesveggie.com/ I don't view them as meat substitutes, though, either. The thought of real flesh grosses me out anymore. There are so many vegan recipes out there to experiment with. You just have to do your research.

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those recipes look yummy

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I don't look at is as fake meat I look at it as a lentil loaf. It is a shaped loaf of lentils and rice and oats with spices and delicious flavors. You shape it into a patty and put gravy on it. It is not meat. It does not taste like meat. It tastes better than meat. It is a whole food. It is good for you. No animals are harmed. If you want to you can put it between pieces of bread with lettuce and tomato, and BBQ sauce and slices of onion. It doesn't make it a hamburger. It makes it a lentil loaf sandwich.

It is all in your point of view. I am not looking for a substitute for meat. I am just looking for something I enjoy eating, and these are yummy.


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Oddly, I am turned off by meat substitutes - I don't see any thing appealing about eating substitutes for that which I choose not to eat - for example, if I don't like apples, why eat fake apples (?) - anyone else out there that feels like that, that can articulate it better than I can? I just think it's odd to eat "fake" meat. It occurs to me that this may have to do with the specific reasons that one does not eat meat?

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thanks for the link

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Here is a great site from the Seventh Day Adventists you put in the ingredients you have and it makes you a recipe!

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The Facebook group I belong to has tried several combinations and as long as you don't go crazy with weird ingredients, this works really well. I find that adding oats or rice works to keep the loaf firmer, and I like using lentils. To make it fat free, at the bottom of the page choose the broth option instead of one of the oils.


Of course adding a seed or nut will add fat to this but I assumed you meant oil. Natural food all have some fat. The oats, seeds, nuts, lentils all have some fat in them. This will be a very low fat dish.

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I would like to make a vegetarian mock meat loaf that is fat free.
Anyone have recipes they would like to share?

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I make meat substitutes from scratch myself. I very rarely eat processed meat products but they do not bother me when I do. Have you tried making your own veggie burgers and seitan? Fatfreevegan.com has a great recipe for BBQ riblets that are really delicious and not hard to make. They contain no soy.
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I do like some of the meat substitutes made of soy. The morning star bbq ribs are better than the regular kind I used to eat but if I eat very much soy I get cramps and a lot of indigestion.
I don't know if I should eat it at all or if maybe I should just eat it in moderation.
Do any of you have the same trouble?


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