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1/7/13 12:41 A

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PLGSHAFFER - this cracks me up. We eat so well at home that I have, on more than one occasion, forgotten that I have to be careful at restaurants, and a few months ago I happily ordered a nice pesto pasta, and then realized when it appeared that, unlike my delicious homemade pesto, it was chock full of cheese, cheese, and cheese. Oh, and I cannot eat dairy. So, Sad, hungry day, that.



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1/2/13 6:23 A

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@PLGSHAFFER-Good luck on try #2. emoticon

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1/1/13 10:32 P

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That's funny, I have done it many times myself! Today marked my second go as a vegetarian. I have 3 kids an many times I forget the little things. I realized half way through my lunch that I had ordered a Brisket sandwich!!! emoticon OMG! I decided that the harm was done and finished but completed my day meat free. :) Good luck, I'm sure you will bounce back! emoticon

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12/23/12 4:08 P

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Speaking of tracking food......I worked out this morning, feeling all good and headed to Wegman's to do my grocery shopping for the holidays along with every other person that lives in my city!! Well I ordered their Vegan Wings of Life Salad for lunch thinking I'm being all kinds of healthy which I was, so I thought. Got home and tried to find the nutritional info. so I could track it and the first search item that came up was from a SparkMember who posted the nutritional info. on this site. I was horrified.....

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A whopping 800 calories, 44 g of fat, almost 70 g carbs!! emoticon

I am learning so much and it is paying to really keep track of what I am eating. Vegetarian does not always mean healthy. emoticon

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12/23/12 5:55 A

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I remember when I started tracking food... It surprised me how badly I ate even though I thought I ate healthily. I got really bad headaches that wouldn't go away and I became so pale... What helped was having a protein snack whenever I was hungry to curb cravings. And, whenever I felt like I wanted to eat something bad, I always thought to myself if I really needed it and if all the progress I made was worth it.... Turns out, it never usually is.

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11/13/12 2:05 P

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Dang it lol. I was doing great. Then ended up going to the store for gum, came out with a pack of cookies. I didnt realize I did it tell I was in half way down the street and it donned on me... " oh crap , dang it , I bough something that was not good to eat.""" now What do I do with all them cookies???? lol No one wants them, and I dont want to waste them lol.... Ill just stare at them and tell myself I can be stronger then the cookie.....



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11/7/12 12:53 P

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You are never alone on this journey! Thanks for the update.

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11/7/12 11:02 A

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11/7/12 10:40 A

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Thank you all for your support and advice! I will say that I think what I'm actually w/ding from is mostly the sugar and processed foods. I don't have a problem resisting meat, and only occasionally struggle w/ thoughts of eating cheese. I have done a lot of research when I was eating plant strong in the spring, so I know why it's the best route-- which is why I'm doing it-- but when I feel terribly moody and really like I am actually addicted to the stuff is when it is hard!

I have talked to my husband about it, and he usually looks guilty when we discuss, but it doesn't change his behavior. He is fine about not eating meat, but that isn't what I'm struggling with. I have told myself that I need to move forward with my plan for better health with or without him, so I'm clinging to that thought.

I do feel better today, much less hungry and no thoughts of binging on sugar, so I'm proud of myself for hanging in there! Today is day 3. I had oatmeal for breakfast, am sipping on Decaf Gingerbread tea (which is helping my sinus headache quite a bit) and having quinoa with asparagus and mushrooms for lunch. I can do this! Thank you all for your help :)


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11/7/12 8:10 A

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PETALIA,

I agree that the senses are very important. Last night I ordered a veggie pizza for my husband, half with no cheese for me. I was very specific about making sure that the cheese didn't bleed over, however not only did I get no cheese, there were no veggies either! Just sauce and bread. Rather than making a stink about it, I took it home, sautéed some baby kale, garlic, onion, olives and roasted red peppers on the stove at topped my half with it and Almesan (homemade parmasen made from ground almonds, lemon zest, and salt). My husband was absolutely jealous. He was like, "wow, your pizza looks REALLY good." And it was delicious.

When your food becomes visually and aromically appealing, all thoughts of deprivation disappear.

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11/6/12 9:35 P

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Hmm....I vote for pleasure over pure will. Sounds like having nutritious treats and delicious things to eat, adding pleasure rather than having a feeling of sacrifice, would help. You might have fun finding out what those tempting whole foods are for you.
As far as hunger goes, once when I was traveling and far from home, I, too, was ALWAYS hungry. Where I was, I felt like there wasn't much for me to eat so I didn't eat much. That didn't work. I then studied what there was to eat in the way of whole foods with a focus on calorie dense, nutrient dense, even fat dense. Adding some of those foods helped me. What might work for you and your goals will be different. Nonetheless, adding some protein/fat foods such as a few nuts and nut butters can quiet the roar of hunger.
Thoughts about all the benefits from your chosen diet, are fine. I'm sure thought helps lots in achieving your ambition. But, I say go for sensory pleasure and gratification, pleasure which is felt and not thought. Colors of fresh fruits and vegetables, tastes, textures... entertain a wealth of possibilities rather than an approach of elimination and sacrifice. The corporations that manufactured those 'foods' your husband brought home all had a lot of energy expended over them to get your sensory desires active. It will take some energy for you to develop a few recipes or chosen edibles that create sensory satisfaction in you. Although this road to better nutrition can be twisty, it doesn't mean it must be grim. I hope you have fun with it.

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11/6/12 5:24 P

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I can really empathize with what you are going through. My hubby is still a carnivore too. I keep Trader Joe's meatless meatballs in the freezer and Tomato Basil Marinara in the pantry for emergencies. They are both vegan. I also like to make polenta and vegan chili, in big batches, and freeze them in single serving containers (separately of course). There are also vegan snacks. Grapefruit juice is a good craving killer too. I learned that one when I quit smoking 4 years ago. Hubby still does that too. emoticon

I still get crazy cravings when I see a thick steak come off the grill sometimes, but I remind myself of what the poor cow went through to end up on hubby's plate. It does get easier as time goes by. Hang in there. We are all rooting for you!

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Maybe you can focus on some of the longer term things. How good will it feel to be a size or two smaller, lighter, with more energy, with less risk of chronic illness? Is that worth working towards? The withdrawals are temporary but the long term benefits of a better diet will be permanent.

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You can order yourself a veggie pizza (no cheese). Throw some flavored faux sausage on top if you want it to help you stay away from the yucky stuff of his. It will be delicious and better for you than what is in the fridge. Order a personal size one though so you won't over do it and eat it all in just 2 meals . That is not good for weight loss no matter that it is good for you. You can do this. If you are having trouble, I would suggest watching Forks over Knives or any other free movie on Netflix to help you keep motivated. Read as much as you can (the recommended books are great) I never even look at those things as options for me . I walk right by them and they disgust me with their piles of oil and greasy mess of flesh. In a while you will see it like that too. It just takes a while. Your body just has to feel the wonderfulness of healthy food in it for a few months to help you be strong. YOU CAN DO IT

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11/6/12 3:42 P

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I also recommend the China Study and maybe share some highlights with your husband;)

Tell him you really want to be healthy and what a struggle it is when he brings in all the "stuff".

Don't deprive yourself. Get the BEST fruit, veggies, whole grains you can buy. Try simple recipes that look appealing to you and share your good wholesome cooking with your husband.

Your body is ridding itself of toxins hence the withdrawal symptoms. Drink lots of water/ caffeine free herb tea.

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11/6/12 3:39 P

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I started off buying imitation meat.
Some people are for it, some are against it.
But it could trick your body into thinking you are eating meat?
It might be a nice way to cross over.
I suggest Boca burgers. (weight watchers approved haha.)

I honestly never went through that.
I've been vegan since 7th grade.
It was a great change.
Just keep thinking of all the benefits you are getting from it!
Be proud you made the change, not enough people do.

Have you told your husband how you feel when he brings things like that home?

Good luck! emoticon

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11/6/12 3:35 P

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I fill up on fresh fruits and vegetables with lots of whole grains. They are so surprisingly filling you'll soon forget what the appeal of the animal products were.
Also, remember why you gave up the flesh to begin with. Remembering what made you change your mind about them will make your husband's food less tempting.

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Withdrawals do pass.
Hang in there and drink more fluids.
It IS worth it.

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Cheer up! You can get past this! emoticon Have you read the China Study? It completely changed my outlook on animal products because it explains exactly what those things do to your body. Lots of fresh fruits and veggies can make sure you stay full and gets the good sugar your body needs to stay energized. Exercise always helps me prevent cravings. Good things go together. I am sorry that your husband is not being supportive. That makes it really hard.

Saying no gets easier the more you do it.

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I was eating pretty well in February, mostly plant strong. I have backslid since then, and am frustrated with my lack of weight loss. So, I decided to get serious yesterday (Yesterday! This is only day 2!) and am going back to mostly vegan and checked out Engine 2 Diet at the library.

I am having crazy withdrawals! I feel irritable and grouchy, and hungry!!! I know that all the sugar, fat, dairy and meat are addictive, and I keep telling myself that, but I had to vent somewhere. My husband bought a large Bacon Chicken Ranch pizza yesterday, and brought home beer. He is only verbally supportive but brings home crappy food, chocolate, beer, chips, and I find it much more tempting than I did in the past. I think maybe because I work from home and so then that food is in my environment all day. I have been drinking hot tea all day (I'm sipping my third cup now), and it's helping a little, but I'm really struggling staying on track, on only the 2nd day.

I just really need some support and maybe some of your hints and tips on how you resist temptation and stay plant strong/sugar & alcohol free, especially in the face of temptation. Success stories would be welcome too!

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