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10/9/09 6:35 P

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I lived in North Carolina before I moved to New Mexico. I'm so glad you got him! I want a turkey...not to eat of course, but as a pet! They are so darn cute. We have a lot of pet chickens and they run to us when we come outside. Precious.

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10/9/09 3:11 P

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oooohhhhhh Pat, I will definitely have to try that next time!! Sometimes I use nutritional yeast, but I didn't last night! That sounds good, though, and you get a little extra protein from the nuts. emoticon

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My vegan substitution for parmesan cheese is ground almonds, and freshly ground black pepper. Works a treat on pizza or pasta. A little goes a long way. It makes my vegan pizza seem more like a pizza with a little sprinkle on top.

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10/9/09 2:18 P

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Celticmelody: I love cheese also but have not yet learned to love vegan cheese. I have found, though, that some things are just as good without. Last night I made a mediterranian pizza with sundried toms, banana peppers, olives, mushrooms and a marinated tofu for the spread-no cheese. It was so good. You really don't miss it sometimes. Now I have to admit with nachos, it is a necessity, but it is almost better to make your own "cheese" sauce than use vegan cheese. Good luck on your journey!

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Nice story about the turkey...so few of them have happy endings.

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10/9/09 12:44 P

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A lot of people use Nutritional Yeast for a 'cheese' sprinkle flavor on things. Must be nutritional yeast, though, not Brewers or traditional baking kind.

You'll get there, if you want to, and don't do everything at once, that is how a lot of people get overwhelmed and revert back.

Baby steps, like Willboywonder says.......give up something at a time.......slow and steady will get the job done.


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10/9/09 12:38 P

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Nope.

I really don't.

I love cheese but, I suppose I'll learn to love vegan cheese.

Its funny but, I think eating meat is more habit than taste for some people. The less meat I eat, the more I lose the taste for it.

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Well you know...............we do have a pet cow, also. His name is Baby and he thinks he is a600 pound dog. Funny, but you have to watch that.

He is a Jersey/Gurnsey X (Both are milk cows). He was brought to me at 1.5 weeks old and I had to bottle feed him. I raised him by hand with the dogs and us. If he gets out of his pasture, he runs the farm with the dogs............he just happens to be the largest 'dog' in the pack running. It is truly cute. I tried once to put him in with the horses and he was absolutely petrified of them. I had to get him back out and put him back where he came from.

He doesn't understand that he is so big now.........at times, he will run at you full speed (with the dogs) because he is so happy to see you. You have to yell "stop baby!" which he will, or risk getting run over.

He really was raised like a dog, he HATES to be wet and runs for his cover at the first drop of rain.

Of course, my community neighbors pick at me and call him "hamburger and T-Bone". They call Lurkey, "Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years" too.

However.......they KNOW better than to seriously think that. The babies are off limits and they know that.

You really don't want to know what they pump the cattle (milk and beef) full of for production, either.


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10/9/09 12:17 P

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:P

If I had a pet cow, I would not be making hamburger out of her!!!

May be time to look into going vegan

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10/9/09 11:38 A

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One of my friends has a huge yard, and somehow a wild turkey made its way inside the fence. It became kind of a pet to them. They feed it. I'm not sure if it has a name.

That's great that your son stood up for the turkey. Kids can be cruel and I'm sure the alternatives, such as coyotes, would be far, far worse than life as a pampered pet!

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Great idea to fence him in. So everyone stays safe. We had an "open" yard for all the banty's and this one huge rooster.



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What a sweet story. I'm so glad you were able/willing to keep him!

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Oh, trust me, Smashy............he is in an enormous turkey yard that we fenced in for him............he is actually bigger than my goat girls ( I have Pygmy Goats) and I couldn't run the risk of him hurting my little ones. So, he is safe and so are they.


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Had a pet rooster, a BIG WHITE ONE, also a rescue by one of my sons when he was a teen. Quite a nice guy to have around the yard,for going after bugs, etc but he loved to sneak up behind me and jump on my legs with his claws out and gave me some pretty serious injury. So, the word is.. don't turn your back on this bird or do ANYTHING to make him dislike you AT ALL. I doubt he knows how lucky he is at this point.



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That is a GREAT story!!! Thank you for sharing. You should reprint that on Thanksgiving!!! emoticon emoticon
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I was typing this and it disappeared, if part of this posts twice, I'm sorry.

As some of you know, I am a vegan living in the middle of farm/livestock Carolina territory. (Boy do I stick out, lol)

We all hear and read about the steriods and growth products that they feed to 'slaughterable' animals to promote growth and weight gain, but SEEING it first hand, is a whole different ball game.

So, last week for Senior Prank night at the school, the kids got a Turkey out of one of the parents turkey barns and were going to turn it loose in the school. They wisely decided against it. Then the 'problem' became, what to do with Turkey that they had named Lurkey. Some suggested turning him loose in the woods, my son vetoed that idea, knowing he would never survive the Coyotes. So, after much discussion, I received a phone call to tell me,,,,,"ummmm..............so..........I am bringing you home a pet." A pet? At 12:30 at night? Yep, you guessed it, Lurkey the Turkey came home to live.

When he pulled him out of the crate, it was like "WOW"......he is still a 'toddler' by age, but he is HUGE. His feet are bigger than my hands and he is just huge.

Anyhow.........they pump these birds full of everything (steroids, growth promoters, etc) so that that reach 30 pounds in 3 months. That is in no way normal growth for anything. Their life expectancy is short becasue of the rapid growth and they are known to have leg problems/broken legs from the extreme weight.

He also was snow white from head to feet, literally.........because they are kept confined in barns under artificial lighting with no fresh air, per say, and no sunlight. They are also known to have leg/feet problems because they are forced to gain weight so quickly that their feet and lets dont always adjust. Many end up with broken legs because of this.

Since Lurkey has come to live with us, his head, and guzzle have turned the most beautiful red (naturally colored) and his feet are now a beautiful golden yellow. He is so ugly, he is cute.

BUT, he is not being processed for bologna, bacon, gound meat, etc. He has fresh air, clean scratch, pure water and the dogs are terrified of him and goats think he stinks and the horses can't figure him out. It is funny.

Did I need a pet Turkey? No...........am I incredibly proud of my 17 year old for bringing him home instead of some of the other options the kids discusses? YES! Will he stay with us, for however long he lives? Of course...

So, Lurkey the Turkey will live out his life, with us, and be happy. When I go out to feed in mornings, he is the first one to start "talking' to me, wanting me to feed him first. He loves his bread treats and all of attention he gets.

Not bad, for a bird that was destined for slaughter and never knew a life, to what he has now.

Bottom line, it is amazing to see how big he is at such a young age, and to learn HOW they get them so large, so fast and what the meat eaters are putting into their bodies. YUK!

Can you say chemically grown, chemically produced and so unhealthy?


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