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2/24/14 8:32 P

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Super low vitamin D levels can also be linked to hyperparathyroidism. If you're super tired and have low vit. D you should make sure your calcium levels are not elevated.


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2/24/14 1:09 P

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I have a family history of pernicious anemia. Just got a B12 shot the other day because I felt tingling in my fingers. The doctor prescribed a high-dose oral supplement to see if it will build up in my system. Hoping I won't have to go for monthly injections like my father did.

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2/19/14 11:59 P

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nutritional yeast is an excellent source of B12 (so is marmite/vegemite)

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2/17/14 4:39 A

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Vitamin B-6 is a water soluble vitamin necessary for the maintenance of immune system, the nervous system, red blood cell metabolism and many more functions in the body. Heavy usage of alcohol is the leading cause vitamin B6 deficiency. Foods that helps to overcome this deficiency are listed here http://forum.internationaldrugmart.com/gen
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3/25/13 3:25 P

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Okay - here is another problem with B12. I am one of the 1% of the world which reacts to too much vitamin 12. Yes, it washes out of the body because it is water soluble, but if I take even 150 mcg a day I get reactions. Really, really tired - sleep medication sleepy, very tired muscles, especially leg muscles when going up stairs to the point where I want to crawl up 4 steps. ANd cranky where everything and everyone bothers me. My multi vit has 100mcg and I can take it only 2-3 a week otherwise I get reactions. I could not believe this was happening until I went on the internet and found that even rare, it is real. I end up having to eat a little meat once in a while.

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3/21/13 1:10 P

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I also have Vitamin D and B12 deficiency. I could go rounds explaining how I got there, so I'll sum it up to having babies, headaches and bad medical advice.

When you have a vitamin D deficiency it can cause digestion issues, IBS C or D or both, and or other issues with the digestive enzymes you need to digest and absorb vitamin B 12. So with a D deficiency if you developed any stomach issues even if you weren't a vegetarian you could easily still have problems absorbing your b12.

There is a lot of new research suggesting that the level doctors use as acceptable for vitamin D is too low (30ml). It should be more like 75ml. I am slowly working my way up by taking 4000 iu a day. Soft gels seem to be absorbed better. This should be D3. D2 is great for nocturnal animals not so much humans.

As for the B12 if you have any digestive issues taking a regular supplement or adding more foods with b12 is not going to help you. You can take the shots or take Sub-lingual Methylcobalamin, other forms of b12 just aren't absorbed well, if at all.

Hope this helps you, and good luck.

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3/17/09 7:02 P

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I have a B-12 deficiency and am on once a month shots. My doctor told me that when you're deficient, your body won't absorb supplements in tablet form. She recommended either a nasal spray (apparently it's expensive) or shots. The shots really aren't that bad. I was freaking out when I heard shots mentioned, but when I gave myself the shot, I didn't even feel the needle.

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3/16/09 9:37 P

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I became vegetarian about 4 years ago. I still eat some seafood, but not very often. I think I have not had any in about 6 months. I will let you know if I need the shots, and of course I will take them if I have to. Not ideal, but sometimes necessary. Thanks.

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3/16/09 12:00 A

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Thing with B12 is that it is usually stored in the liver, and people can go 5 years without anything showing up, and then get hit. How long have you been veggie? A super does might not be so bad. Remember that a lot of B12 in foods etc is destroyed in the stomach. Good luck =)

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3/15/09 11:13 P

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Thanks this helps some. I guess I will start adding nutritional yeast to my foods. More mushrooms too. I did get the two prescriptions on Saturday. I will go back for lab test on the B12 in 30 days and for the D in 60 days. I knew about the tingling and numbness in my fingers and toes, I get that a lot. I wonder if the reason I feel so exhausted in the last few months has been due to these deficiencies. I will try to up my B12 levels with some fortified rice milk also. I hope this ends the current problems and that no permanent damage was done.

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3/15/09 4:16 A

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If the veggies have been sprayed with pestosides and herbasides, than a lot of the B12, if not all, will be lost. Same if you wash your veggies. B12 comes from the insects and the soil. I the veggies and fruits are treated with these chemicals, and/or are too clean, than you will not get your B12. If you are not growing your own, it is always safer to error on the side of caution with a supplement.

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3/15/09 3:37 A

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Vegetables has a lot of these nutrients, as long as you are on track; you will never be deficient. BE ON TRACK!!
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3/15/09 3:07 A

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As already mentioned earlier, D from the sun. If you don't have that, install some full-spectrum lighting bulbs in your home. It can help.

As for B12, it's no joke. Mental instability, paralysis are just a couple of dangers of having low B12, and once the damage is done, it can't be undone.

Here is probably the best B12 supplement, if you're wanted to add to the nutritional yeasts, etc. It is a living source of B12, and has been tested.
https://awakenedshoppe.com/product.p
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I believe they also have it in tincture form as well.

If you don't want that one, make sure you get a sub-lingual delivery system of Methylcobalamin. We have a 1000mcg supplement we take daily. If you are low, a supplement might help, because once B12 is in the stomach, a lot of it is killed off and can't be absorbed and used by the body. A sublingual supplement simply goes under the tongue, by-passes the stomach, and going straight into your system. emoticon

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3/15/09 1:21 A

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Hi, I don't know about vit D, I live in Australia where skin cancer from over-exposure to the sun is common so Vit D deficiency is not a big prob here!

On B12, it depends why you are B12 deficient in the first place. If its dietary deficiency then there should be no reason why you cant get what you need from diet, vego or otherwise, but if your levels have got quite low it would be sensible to top up with a supplement for a while on the advice of your health professional. Commonly mentioned sources of B12 for vego's include mushrooms, nutritional yeast, tempeh, eggs, soy milks, breakfast cereals and other prepared foods are often fortified with B12. If you are veg'n not vegan and eating a varied diet you really shouldn't have a problem and it is wise to have good health care assesment.

The effects of B12 deficiency can be very far reaching, come on slowly and affect your capacities before you realise its happening. There's lots about it on the net and in any good heath care manual etc. I have B12 deficiency which in my case, untreated, leads to pernicious anaemia. I get a monthly B12 shot which as far as i know has no side effects. I believe there is now a tablet that is administered by being dissolved under the tongue and that this is showing comparable results to the intra-muscular injection. Personally i like the shot and it works really well for me, without it I feel awful and long-term, I would just basically run down. My B12 deficiency has nothing to do with being vego (its a failure of my body to produce an enzyme that makes B12 absorption from food possible). Wouldn't make a difference to my B12 if I ate a whole paddock full of animals!
Good luck with it all,

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3/15/09 12:26 A

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Since nobody else has mentioned it...
Nutritional Yeast, especially Red Star Vegetarian Support is fortified with B12. Not sure what to do with it? Check out "The Uncheese Cookbook" or look up uncheese or vegan cheese recipes.

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I just started taking an organic/vegetarian vitamin from New Chapter and I feel amazing. Check them out online. They have a lot of great looking products. But before doing anything, you should really consult your doctor, especially about the vitamin D, since too much can be toxic.

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3/14/09 11:05 P

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i have the same issues.

i do NOT do the shot, and my doc only wanted me to try it once a month. i drink rice dream, fortified with vitamin d and b12. i take a liquid b complex vitamin 2 times a month. i take a vitamin d pill once a month.

when we checked my numbers 6 months later, i'm in the very low range of "average". which is fine with my doc, and with me.

mushrooms can be a good source of vitamin d, and some company is marketing portabellos that have been zapped with UV rays upping the vitamin d content. i think it's Dole...not sure. other than that, sunlight or supplements is your only way to vitamin d.
b12 isn't found in any veggies either...SO, fortified foods are the route to go, as well as the supplement.

both of these deficiencies are very serious for the human body. they can cause your bones to crumble and you can have numbness in your arms and legs. headaches can be frequent and other such symptoms. at least, those are mine...they thought i had multiple sclerosis(which i may still develop, no one really knows) but that's how we found the vitamin d deficiency. i hate the sun and am afraid of skin cancer...so i don't go in it very often.

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3/14/09 12:06 P

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I am vitamin D deficient. I get about 30 min of sun without sunscreen everyday. It depends on where you live if that is enough. Also for some reason overweight bodies tend to produce less vitamin D than thin.

I took D3 supplements (4000 IU a day) for 6 mons and went from 12 to 29. Still below low. My dr changed me to a D2 (vitamin D precursor) 50,000 IU a week for 2 mon then D3 1000 IU for a mon then recheck.

I can't help you on the B12 because I have no problems there. Just to remember to check and make sure that foods are fortified with it.

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DBailey where in Wisconsin are you? i am Chicago we are neighbors...I think you told me before but i forgot...lol good to see you...


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Vitamin D is naturally produced in the skin from exposure to sunlight. I think one of the side effects of people avoiding the sun to prevent aging and skin cancer is that we also miss out on vitamin D. In the past people thought it was healthy to get a bit of sun every day and a little tan was considered appealing but today we slather on sunscreen and use spray on tan. I read that skin cancer rates have gone up rather than down so I don't know how effective the advice to use sunscrean is. Seafood and fortified dairy foods provide this vitamin for most people who don't get enough sun. If you don't get enough sun than a D3 suppliment is probably your best bet. I take one once in a while when the weather is bad and I don't go out much. When the weather is nice I get my vitamin D by driving to and from work with the top of my convertable down. Much nicer than taking a pill.

I often have a cup of miso soup with my breakfast and I read that miso is a good vegan source of B12. I feel fine and haven't taken suppliments in a few years so hopefully it is doing the trick for me. I'm not 100% vegan myself and occasionally have eggs for breakfast so I get a bit more B12 here.

In any case, do take the suppliments your Dr. prescribes at least until you get your levels up than perhaps you could experiment with getting more sun and eating B12 rich foods.

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To get Vitamin D naturally all you need to do is get your daily sun exposure on bare skin. It only takes like 10-15 mins and you're good. That being said, winter here in WI doesn't lend itself to much sun exposure. ;) We drink fortified milk substitutes and eat fortified cereal. It provides way more than enough Vit D and B-12, among many other vits and minerals. We also use nutritional yeast that is B-12 fortified.

If it were me, I'd take the supplement for the month and see where I was. I'm not huge on supplements (or any meds for that matter), but you have to do what you have to do.



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this question can't be so universal, I think that if your Dr told you need to take it you should and consult with him/her before taking into your hands. there are many articles on it, and controversy still on
weather you need to take a supplement or not. therefore to have your blood check every so often is not a bad idea. veggies/meat eaters can suffer from -b12 also check with your DR.
but here is a link i love this article.
www.vegfamily.com/health/vitamin-b12
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i hope this helps...best to you...


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Does not stagnate in emptiness. Not only can I take hold of complete
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3/14/09 11:27 A

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i was recently diagnosed with vitamin B12 and D deficiency. My GP prescribed supplements, but is concerned and wants me back in a month for follow-up lab tests. Does anyone else have or experienced this? If so is there a more natural way to up these levels, such as a specific food other than meat? Any advice would be appreciated. BTW I will be taking the supplements, I do not want to go in for a monthly shot.

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