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Hi guys, I am in Missoula, MT tonight. Just took time to check in heading for Sheridan, WY tomorrow. Doing well. Will check in again when I can.

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Sharon, When I freeze berries, of any kind, I rinse them off (if protein is hiding down inside, it gets to stay) then I spread them out on a cookie sheet on paper towels, let them sit out for a few minutes, shaking the cookie sheet a little to get the excess water off. Then I pull the paper out and freeze the berries on the cookie sheet - they stay separated that way. After the berries are frozen solid, I take them out and put them in a zip lock bag and it works great. Then I can just grab a handful and measure if I want and toss them into my protein shakes.

Sounds like your lady, Rosie, is quite a character. I guess she got to 98 years, she has the right to wonder how she looks, huh? And even wears jeans.. Go figure! That's great. We should all be so lucky!! And skinny arms and legs... Gee..... wonder what that's like? emoticon I don't think I've EVER had anything "skinny"....

It's been cool and cloudy all day today, tomorrow is supposed to be the same. I'm walking to my friends for coffee in the morning if it's not raining - they're saying thunder perhaps, but I doubt it will happen, it seldom does. I can walk in cooler weather easier than I can when it's 90 degrees...

July is almost finished. Doesn't seem possible!! I hope I make more headway in August than I did in July.........

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emoticon My tracker is correct 162.......i don't have much of an appetite though . I did have a salad and pork for dinner and an Atkins shake for lunch .

Wispy i am still giving care to Rosie my 98 yr old sweetie . I have news emoticon even at 98 she still likes jeans and wants to know how she looks from behind ! Also she doesn't like her skinny arms/legs ......who would think she would still care emoticon

I picked red raspberries and ones that are purple/blue and long and they grow on thornless bushes that are about 10' tall and grow branches about the same ......out of control but don't know how to trim them . Its a jungle but i got lots of berries emoticon I am freezing them , protein and all emoticon emoticon .....a quick rinse and in the freezer.
Not proper but they go in a protein/smoothie and i will never know the difference . The last time i soaked them it ruined them and i had to throw them away emoticon

Have fun Wispy and MsKris emoticon

GOOD BYE JULY ....HELLO AUGUST

I AM DOING FINE NOW ............ i have little toes that just seem to stick out and catch the door jam no matter what ........i am not going bare foot and i am being more mindfull of how i exit that bathroom from now on emoticon
I love walking in the rain and chose to park across the street from the church to get a " little" walk in . Now what to do about the emoticon i live with ........ emoticon emoticon

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Your preparation is inspiring, MsKris!

Being that this is the last day of July, it is appropriate to state the month's Results: I lost 3, gained 8, lost 6 lbs. = 8 steps back and 9 steps forward for a total of 1 pound lost for this extremely difficult month. I suppose I should celebrate -- historically, July and December are always the months I GAIN weight.

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Hey thanks for the site Koshie and also the quick link to it Nancy.
I checked it out and its high for me for cals. But then I do have a slow metabolism. One of the reasons low carb is so great. I can eat so many more cals as long as it isn't carbs.

Have a great holiday MSKRIS. Sure we are both going to have fun. Way to go on taking your carbs with you. You should come home a happy little camper with no gains.

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It's good to see a calculator (calorie) that takes age and activity levels into consideration. And it seems to be pretty accurate too, at least in my case. Thanks for sharing it with us... so many of them are geared towards the young athletic type people...

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Hey Koshie, thanks for the new web link, I saved it to my favorties.


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emoticon MSKRIS and WISPY!

Below is a link I found to a site that quickly and easily calculates the number of calories you can eat daily (for weight maintenance, with a regular metabolism). *I* found the information interesting and useful. I never knew how many calories I could "technically" eat (and note, this calculator takes age into account!). The knowledge will help me better plan my daily eating and food tracking. I hope you find it useful also.

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I leave tomorrow morning until August 18th. Packed all my food to stay low carb. I will do SP when I have service to get caught up.
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So loving the thought of those berries Nancy and with cream Betty YUMEE. Never heard of Marionberries. Wonder what they taste like.

Made the pie differently this time and it was even better.
Did put an oopsie pizza base on the bottom but it did not work as I used raw bacon, but the rest of if was perfect.
So grease and line a free form tin with raw bacon and also put rashers up the sides then break in 4 or 5 whole eggs, then a layer of bacon then another layer of 4 or 5 eggs and top this with a good layer of cheese, esp. cover the whole yolks. Cook in a moderate oven covered for 30 - 45 mins until the eggs look set. I then browned the cheese on top, but that is optional.

It makes 8 wonderful slices. Have really enjoyed this best of all.

I used 10 eggs.... 6.00 carbs
350gr bacon ..... 1.50 carbs
100 gr cheese......1.00 carbs
served with hot, spicy and sweet h/m tom chutney. Aprox 3.0 a serving

Wont be posting on any other threads till I come home from holiday next Wednesday or Thursday.

Had a great low carb day yesterday, today and intend the same for tomorrow.
Weight is level - all ready to have a celebration week away. I am usually too excited to eat much on holiday. Very funny. Last twice I have intended to eat up big, and arrived home having gained nothing. Maybe it will happen again. :)

Have a good week everyone. Koshie so hope you will be feeling better by the time I return.

Love to all. Wispy.

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Nancy, Your fresh berries sound wonderful. I'm going to have to go get some, I don't think our Blackberries are ripe yet - not the wild ones anyhow. - There are raspberries, marionberries, etc. though now. You just made me hungry for a dish of berries with whipping cream on them.....

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Just finished cleaning some yummy blackberries and raspberries. Also made up a batch of tuna salad which I plan to take to work with me. I have to get away from eating Mcdonalds food, free or not!!!!

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Surely the fact that I still feel yucky this morning will make an impression on the dopamine centers of my brain. I don't feel food-poisoned; but my gut is protesting all the same! Maybe this is the sensation people call "bloated"; I'm not familiar with it. Maybe it is guilt after all! Well, bring it ON! It kept me from eating much all yesterday; and another couple WEEKS of careful minimal eating ON PLAN is what I NEED!
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Koshie, I think if we could "learn our lesson" when we eat something we shouldn't or that doesn't agree, in a perfect world, we would just say "no thanks" - but seems like we have to just keep trying....... and it slaps us in the face every time.

Sharon, Glad you're making some headway - at least for now. Hope it continues for you.

Wispy, your bacon and egg pie sounds really good - I told you that the other day, I think.
Do you scramble the eggs first? Or just put them in?

I am soooo tired tonight- for no reason! Tomorrow I'm going to go walk, come hell or high water, it's about 10 degrees cooler than it has been so it should be great! My head is stopped up tonight, but I think it's allergies - the grass pollens are really high and I've had the house wide open most all day.

I'm headed to bed now, I'll be back tomorrow...

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Hi there ladies,

Sharon, I'd love to see the photos and am so sorry to hear about the health issues. They can be so devastating. Think I asked you a while back, but are you still doing your "caring" job. You would be such a kind person to have in that role. I know from experience that can be a hard thing to come by and is so appreciated.

Betty, every area needs a neighbourhood watch - you are providing a valuable service. emoticon I can't see the road from my place so alas I cannot join you.

I am a happy little camper today. Made a big bacon and egg pie yesterday with an oopsie base. That did not work so well with using uncooked bacon, but the rest of it was wonderful.
This time I used raw bacon on the base and sides of the springform tin then I put in a layer of eggs (5) another layer of bacon and 3 or 4 eggs on top of that and topped it with the grated cheese. Have to say it is wonderful cold, and will last me several meals.
The bacon was 2.0 carbs and 10 eggs 6.0 and it makes 8 servings - very filling and quite delicious. For those who count it I'm thinking the protein/fat ratio would be pretty good as well and the salad would take care of the fibre needs - at least it seems to for me.

Like you Nancy I get tired of things sometimes and just put them in the freezer. Great way to go because there is always something ready to go. I do love cold left overs though. They sometimes taste even better than the original.

Koshie, this is a new day hon, and you can get right back on your plan. One of the things that upsets me most is when I do not plan to eat something I subsequently eat (if it is carbs I mean). One of the reasons I plan my food ahead is that it helps me to stay on track, and more importantly not suffer the feelings of remorse I get when I eat carbs.

I often change a bit from what I have planned but still in the food range I am on for that day.
When I am going to be eating out I allow myself the luxury of a celebration day. That way no backlash if I eat something I fancy. It is all programmed into my plan.

I do need a plan I can live with. Must tell you I saw two posts yesterday that I so loved.

One if "If it tastes good, spit it out". I smile every time I think of it and the other one is "Diet is a four letter word". This also made me feel good. Humour is a great way of getting a message across. One of the big things Spark has done for me is to make this a lifetime plan. I will never be on a diet again. Even when the plan calls itself a "diet". I still use it as part of my eating plan when I try it out, or incorporate it.

It was a good feeling when I got back to my current level of maintenance yesterday and I ate very low carb as it turned out and will be doing so again today. Taking the trouble to make food I really enjoy gives me a feeling of achievement. Haven't bothered very much with recipes of late until the last couple of weeks. And it sure has inspired me. Had quite forgotten how good oopsies really are and yesterday's turned out to be one of the best batches I have ever made. It may be because by accident I had the oven on grill instead of bake. So the first few minutes were pretty hot and browned the rolls in no time. I then changed the oven to bake and let the heat out before shutting the door. They held their puffed up shape more than usual, so I will definitely try that again and see if that if what it was.
I use the six eggs and get a dozen buns and also a flat layer for a pizza base or whatever.

I think the recipe actually says 6 buns for 6 eggs, but I prefer the smaller size. A bun is a bun to me and last night with hamburger cheese and garlic sauce it tasted as good as any burger I have ever bought.

WOO HOO 3 sleeps till I leave .... 5.20am on Thursday morning. 2.30 Monday afternoon here. I have not done the steps any more and all my aches and pains seem to have settled, so right now I am just practicing the walking.

Well I've rambled on enough so have a good day girls. Let's be kind and patient with ourselves no matter what. We deserve it. :)

Its a lovely sunny mild day again and the forecast is great for my few days away. I cant wait.

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emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon Betty and Wispy !!!

i have lost some of the water now down to 164, at least this am , could be back to 168 tomorrow am . I have to check it and keep dr posted as my feet, ankles and legs are swelling now emoticon but hey i am down 4 lbs ( 1st time to be under 165 in a long time ) I am not hoping the Echo says i have anything wrong but i sure feel pretty bad , in regards to chest pain ( angina ) and fluid build up.

I am going to try to post pictures of the cattle, etc from Farm Day here yesterday .....maybe on Monday after dh's treatment . emoticon



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Ate out last night -- ordered the biggest steak and broccoli plate -- trying to pre-empt my cravings.... How I had room to eat cake when I got back home I have no idea! Ugh! It was a delicious cake; but I don't feel well STILL today... My brain and my stomach are having words with each other and they DISAGREE! It seems I can still crave -- but I can't digest!
Call me a foolish fool fool fool!
Where is the "green-about-the-gills" smiley face? Ugh! God, PLEASE let me learn my lesson!

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Good morning ladies. I have a couple days off due to a shoulder injurime to catch up on some posting.

I neeed to spend some time cooking but not sure if that will happen. I still have a yummy breakfast quiche to finish up but I'm kinda ttired of it.I used eggs, sausage, red , orange and green peppers and fresh spinach. Might just portion the rest and freeze for later. Later today BF wants a coffee cake so I will probably make some atkins cinnamon muffins.

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Way to go Wispy!!! I looked at that cauliflower recipe, it did look good!! You know, I've never made the Oopsie rolls.. I just don't have much craving for "bread" anymore..

Today has been a total loss for me as far as accomplishing much of anything. I did do a couple loads of laundry, straightened up the kitchen (but you'd never know it tonight) and it was a perfect day for deck sitting (gotta keep watch on the neighborhood, you know!) emoticon . Son was here for awhile this afternoon. but their high school was having a 30 year reunion tonight, so he was going to go home and clean up and go..

I just don't know how my kids got older than Mom!!

It was about 10 degrees cooler today. Perfect weather!! Right now at 10:15 it's about 61 and supposed to get down to 49 tonight.



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So happy to say that I have lost the second pound I gained last week, so the staus quo is resumed before I go on holiday next Thursday.

Celebrated to day with doing some great low carb cooking. Made a batch of oopsies and a bacon and egg pie oopsie base. Cooked hamburger patties and a cauliflower and cheese dish that I found on the low carb blog posts. Also made a cheese and garlic spread with the left over egg yolks from the oopsies. I only use four yolks to 6 egg whites.

So today's food is all set. I so enjoy cooking.

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Someone told me once that I need to take care of me first of all, and I could not give out until I was taken care of first. They also said, let your yes be yes and your no be no.
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Koshie, Take all of the time that you need to "re-group".

We will be here with open arms for you. Just do what you need to do for yourself!!


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Koshie I am so pleased that you are finding the help you need. I have been in melt down mode myself. With all the stress you have been under, it is little wonder you need to slow down and recover. Therapy helped changed my life for the better in so many ways I can't begin to count them. emoticon

Please take all the time you need and come on in here as a friend among friends. You have our support and understanding.

Sending you warm and loving thoughts and prayers.

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I think my stress, anxiety, and agitation is leaking out every which way.
I'm sorry. I believe I've been "acting out".
I am going to take some great advice I've been offered (thank you all!) and I am going to do my best to "chill out". A real-life friend told me I was going to need therapy after undergoing what I've been through; and it seems I do. So it might seem that I'm offended and backing off by being less "present", but I'm not. I'm just gonna focus on myself some more and struggle for control and that will consume some time that I've been spending here instead. So I will be here less, for awhile.

Oh, and thank you one and all for the reassurance you've given me. emoticon

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Betty that is great. Well done you. You will be getting me all excited about trying to lose again. The attempt last month when I was really so rigorous kind of floored me in that I did not lose a pound, although the inches went down. A plateau is a plateau. I go away to the snow and fun of my holiday in Queenstown in less than a week now and am so excited. Just hope the weather, earthquakes and nothing else come to intervene. :)

Great to see us all here. I would only leave if I was upsetting people Sharon and it turns out I wasn't so I am happy to be here.

Koshie Sure hope you find the Team leaders board helpful.

This is a great team, and you contribute enormously to what we share, which is something very special in my opinion. Although each of us are quite different, we are all friends.

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Another BIG amen as well from me.

By the way, I've lost 5.6# since my birthday on the 5th - and... I lost 1.6 this week (since last Friday). I am now back to what my weight says on my tracker, so planning to go further down from there...

It's another HOT day here today, about 94 or so now I think- too warm to be out on the deck, so think the recliner is calling my name.

I went and got my hair cut this morning, then stopped at the grocery store, bought some hamburger and some salad. Came home, grilled the hamburger outside, had one of the patties for lunch and have 3 more made and cooked to eat later - (not today, of course). They were good. I like hand made patties so much better than the purchased pre-pressed patties.

Today is a good day!


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emoticon I just checked the " forum " title .....General Team Discussion " i feel better now .

WISPY DON'T YOU DARE QUIT THIS TEAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for responding to my email Koshie. I am sorry you are feeling so bewildered. Leading a team can be quite stressful but there is a spark leaders team you can join. Many team leaders belong to it. It is the best place to discuss these and other issues and where you can get helpful input on how to deal with the problems facing you.

The weather has been lovely here today. Clear blue skies and warm sunshine. Perfect for winter. Only 5 days now till I go on holiday. Believe it or not I am all packed and ready to go, so looking forward to it.

My food plan has gone well and I am well under my limits for the day. Nancy asked for some help and started a Food Accountability thread. If anyone is interested in joining us we look forward to seeing you over there.

Sharon sweetheart, I am so hoping the news with regard to DH will continue to be good and it always brightens up my day to see you post. Your smile is infectious. :)

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No, no, no!
Here, let me use MYSELF as an example: Early last week, I started eating to sooth my emotions. While it doesn't really matter that I ate foods X or Y or Z, what does matter is that I started choosing foods that I KNEW weren't good for me and would lead me deeper into temptation. I had an "excuse" -- I've been under a lot of stress and..... so I was tempted and I gave in to the temptation.

Ewe, I 'fessed up; I was guilty. Everybody makes mistakes and we all need support ESPECIALLY at times when we make mistakes. What I DIDN'T do is try to say, "oh, but it is okay, it wasn't very much" or "it wasn't really a mistake". No... it was a mistake. A misstep. A problem. To call it anything other than that would be me trying to say that I thought I was doing something right when I knew I was doing something wrong. I needed support and reinforcement in my struggle to stay on the right path.

For the next few days, I struggled to get back on track as fast as I could. My intent was to make up for the damage I had caused myself, not necessarily to lose weight.

And then, the next few days after that, I was STILL very strict with myself -- but my intention had changed. I had planned to have a celebration meal on Sunday (and I did!) and I needed to prepare in advance. I needed to be in control of what I was doing. I was making a CHOICE, not "succumbing" to temptation on Sunday. And I told y'all in advance about my plans too. But because it was a choice, I felt no guilt. I prepared for days in advance, and I enjoyed my meal thoroughly. And I tried to promptly go back to my usual diet the very next meal!

There are going to be times when we CHOOSE to celebrate and we prepare in advance and we do whatever we can to make up any difference afterwards, for as long as it takes for us to be in control again. And there are times when we simply fail ourselves and give in to temptation. I think we all know the difference.

Staying in control and making conscious choices ARE good things, empowering things! Even when our choice is to indulge our tongues or our desire to be lazy. BUT! None of us consciously CHOSE to be fat, lazy, or in poor health -- and we don't want to continue to make choices that consistently undermine our goals to get better. Do we? Do we?

In MY case, personally, I caught myself lying to myself, and wondering why I wasn't getting the results I was expecting based upon my numbers and the effort I was putting in. Well, the numbers were a lie I was telling myself (! - DUH !) -- because I wasn't recording EVERYTHING I ate. And I wasn't recording EVERYTHING because I was telling myself that the nibbles and tastes and one bites were too small to count -- that it was OKAY not to record them. I mean, come on! ONE almond, ONE chocolate chip, ONE spoonful of DD's ice cream, ONE.... Am I not wonderful? Am I not perfect? Yes, sigh, a perfect moron! I was puzzled. I was discouraged from my lack of results.

So when we make a choice to give in to temptation (and yes, whatever we do IS a CHOICE), it is a bad thing I believe, to try to protest that "it is okay". Not only are you misleading yourself, but by protesting that it is "okay", you are rejecting any support your teammates could offer. AND as my earlier post tried to point out, by telling us that giving in to temptation is okay (for you), we are human enough to want to believe that if it is okay for you, then it is okay for me too! It becomes a drop that has ripples that can affect others negatively. Because we are ALL tempted constantly. No one person is "dropping" a lot. But the one drop has ripples that affect another person... and then SHE "drops" and YOU "drop" and ]i[ drop... and we all "drop" and it all adds up to dampening drizzle of discouragement to giving it our best. No insult intended to anyone: You alone never were a big enough "drop" all by yourself; no one person is to "blame"! Nor was it ever my intent to blame anyone or make anyone want to leave the team.

I will say that I wasn't posting about these mistakes of mine because I didn't SEE them at all. For a long time I was deceived by my lies that it was OKAY to not record EVERYTHING I ate. At least, by not posting about it, I didn't drip discouragement on anyone else.

So ladies, my point is NOT that we should pretend to be paragons of virtue! My point is NOT that I think we should never/will never fail. My point is more that we should admit to ourselves that we are weak, we are human, we make mistakes. My point is that we should OWN our mistakes and admit them and learn from them. We need support. Let us not tell ourselves and each other that it is okay to give in to temptation. But I will cheer you when you have the strength of will to choose consciously!

Honestly? Bluntly? I don't know if cake, ice cream, chocolate chips, rice, lean turkey or bacon is ON or OFF your list. YOU know, and you post about it. Some of you almost literally say, "I knew I shouldn't, but I ate/did "whatever" because the temptation and opportunity was right in my lap -- but it was OKAY..." and then later you post about being discouraged by your lack of results in achieving your goals. You don't see it. And, OH! I feel for you because I did that to myself for 2 years!

Team goals state NOTHING about weight. We give support, advice, and information. WE. YOU and ME! Not just the leaders. I want to HELP, but I think I make things worse as a leader. Active team members just keep going away.... I seem to FAIL at being a good leader because I can't seem to say anything directly OR indirectly without giving offense. I've spent FOUR HOURS on these last 2 posts picking my words so very carefully and I probably still am giving offense. I can't DO this to the team or to myself! Perhaps Nancy's hand-off approach is truly the better one.

Incidentally, I agreed to assist DreamWeaver as a co-captain. I seem to be only partially registered as a captain -- without full authority/responsibility/whatever-you-want
-to-call-it. I don't get notifications about anything. I can't send out team announcements. I can't officially welcome new members. Almost nothing. Nada. Zip! I don't KNOW how to be a captain. And DreamWeaver was MIA for quite awhile. And after 4 and a half hours, I am calling it quits on this post!


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Koshie, we had a new member who joined yesterday and asked a question that you would be great at answering so I suggested she contact you. Perhaps you did not get a notification of the new thread. I find that sometimes happens.

After all this discussion I decided to check out the Spark rules about what to post on a team. It was a very long list and I enjoyed reading it.

I have just posted a small sample here but I agree with everything on the full list wholeheartedly.

"Be positive and encouraging at every opportunity.
Do everything you can to make others feel welcome.
Keep an open mind as others talk about their beliefs, goals and opinions- you might learn something!
Give everyone the benefit of the doubt that they are trying to help and have good intentions.
Tough love can be a helpful kick in the pants, but "tough" does not equal "mean".
Welcome all types of personalities and encourage people to be themselves."


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I have to agree with Wispy here - her last sentence - if we are now, or get out of line, please... just let us know without having to guess as to who said what. I can assure you that I personally would not be offended..

We all do things a little differently, but all have the same end result in mind... better health, better looks (I may be past that part), better eating habits, etc....

Have a good evening!!





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Koshie, I have sent you a private email and hope you will do me the kindness of responding.

I do not see people posting the things that you mention on this team. This may well be because I am the problem. It is usually the person who has the problem that does not see it themselves.

We do have new members who join this team and whom I welcome and then seldom see again, so perhaps what you are saying is what stops them from posting.

When changing to the cycling programme last year I offered to leave because it was 'different'. However I was asked to stay.

I have changed my plan again, so perhaps this is what you are referring to. I am a person who keeps trying new things and tweaking to get the results I want in my life. As I said I have no intention of getting others to do the same. Why would they want to if they are enjoying the way they eat. We are adults here and one of the things I particularly like about the team is that we are all different and think for ourselves.













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You know Koshie, You did tell me something here last week, the other day or something - don't even remember what it was about except for the fact that I'd eaten something off plan and you mentioned my "excuse" or some such thing. What you said to me was not earth shattering, but it did get me to thinking.... (thank you).

I have re-vamped my plan a little and am going to try for less indiscretions and stay on it. I have pretty much been following Protein Power type plan and I came across an old book written by Michael Eades and it struck me as quite interesting and I am going to implement his suggestions from that book. I'm really going to see if I can get that scale or tape measure moving again..

Also, I decided that if I do screw up, I'll keep it to myself, I certainly don't want to give the impression that I think it's "ok" to do because while I personally don't get upset with myself except for it being a bad choice, but others may think I'm endorsing it. and if I do get out of line, please tell me.

I'm back to one pound above what my ticker says (185) and hope to be moving it downward soon - been at about that same weight for way too long. It's insanity! I Have been doing really well here lately though!

"Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results"...

@Sharon, I hope that your diagnosis of thyroid issues is what's causing your problems.. maybe if so, you can get back to a normal progression... Wish I was close enough, I'd think about get some of the grass fed beef from your son.. Although there are places where we can buy it here.

I did have to kind of chuckle though at your sleeping pill fiasco... Guess they must be some strong pills, huh? I have a friend who uses sleeping pills on occasion and I know she's said before that she doesn't take it until she's AT her bed! We've been friends for over 40 years and she's always had trouble sleeping, but hasn't taken anything until this past year or so.

It was another 95 degree day here today, still about 94 out... I want to go out to the deck, but it won't be before the sun starts to go down, in about another hour or so at least... Too hot out there now since deck is on the west side of the house and not enough trees to stop the sun. Supposed to cool down this weekend though into the low to mid 80's - we'll all think we died and went to heaven!!







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emoticon ...oh my you are so right in saying we shouldn't be saying " it's ok to give up on our health or give the idea that it's ok to encourage others too "

emoticon not sure how to react , i have low thyroid now ( again and probably always did ) and i just started meds. for it . the dr. seems to think it's why i have gained and i hope it's true , i do not eat in between meals and usually don't eat breakfast ( Dr. Oz said that Hunter/gatherers (sp) usually don't eat bfast ) My test said i was a Hunter .....

Tues. i go for a Echo test , as i have been so out of breath and exhausted for 2 weeks . Insomnia and now on sleeping pills !
Maybe i already said this , can't remember emoticon Found out the hard way that you don't take a sleeping pill and stay up to read .......then try to walk to the bdrm .........very painful when i hit the floor and almost did a header into the big screen tv...........wouldn't made a great funny video ......i can laugh now although i have a big booboo on my thigh , very dumb
Hope you all have a healthy and happy weekend ! We have what is called Farm Day here ( at my son's and about 30+ other farms ) It's where you open your farm up to the public and show them around , my son will have grassfed only ( not even a grain finishing , like stores sell ) burgers for sale and his beef will be for sale on the hoof . Others have sheep, chickens etc....one has mini donkeys and buffalo . We help out b4 and during the day .



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Thank you for all the feedback. It really helps. Ladies, this team is a low-carb team, otherwise unspecified. Your low-carb diet and choices are up to you and not anyone else on the team! One of the team goals is to offer SUPPORT. OMG YES -- the ramblings and discussions of things other than diet are desirable and supportive! Creating friendships is HUGE and that is a WONDERFUL AMAZING thing that we have going! That is something I've been trying to encourage!

On the other hand, trying to figure out how to give support to all of us on different plans is a bit of a nightmare for me. I don't pretend that I know everyone's unique plan! And I slip up occasionally when I try to be (what I think of as) supportive. I'll bet that sometimes I come across as chiding or parental -- which has to be offensive to all of you, who know yourselves and your plan and what is good for you way better than I do (not to mention that you are all adults!)! I fear doing that, plain and simple.

And on yet ANOTHER hand (wonder how many hands I have!), I have my responsibilities to the team. Why did the Atkins team die? I don't know. I know I don't want this team to die -- it means a lot to me and I get a lot of support from it; and I work hard to prevent its death.

For a long time now, I've been hearing us offering excuses for not following our respective plans. And it isn't really even "offering excuses" -- it is the casual, off-hand way we announce that "oh, I [went off plan] today-- but it is okay." If I try to be supportive and urge better adherence to one's health plan, I am likely to get a defensive remark back -- even when elsewhere, the person admits they've made no progress in their efforts in a LONG time.

I take this to mean that that my idea of support is not wanted. And that is okay! It really IS your choice! But the announcements along the lines of "I was tempted; I didn't try to resist, and I expect you all to support me!" *I* think are detrimental to the good of the team and undermine each one of us individually -- because it is a struggle for each of us to continue, and we are stronger together working towards our goals than we are when someone quits, and let's face it -- we are all human and tempted to quit too.

And being human, all of us are thinking, "Well, if she can do it, I can do it!" even though we KNOW better! It is sad but true, we are all looking for our next excuse....

I want you to be healthy. I want you to be happy. I want you to be motivated. I want you to achieve your goals. These things wax and wane; I know. But when you just STOP, and tell us it's okay, well, I want you to know it isn't okay with me. You are not where you want to be!

I've no way of knowing, but I HOPE everyone on this team shares my idea that it not okay to go off your health plan just because temptation presented itself. I'm not saying you CAN'T go off your plan; but I am saying "Prepare for it! Make up for it! Don't just let it slide! And don't tell us it is okay to succumb to temptation!" I think we all know that it isn't! That's how we got unhealthy! You are not going to get where you want to be that way.

You are here because we are making a difference in your life. Frankly, you are making a difference in OUR lives too. There is a huge difference when you say something like, "I'm going on a trip and I'm gonna BLOW it" versus "I'm going on a trip and I'm starting to prepare NOW..." Or... "I drove past Sarah's Sugar Shack and couldn't resist the smell of french fries..." Your words inspire us to be better -- or to be worse.

Think about it. You might say something accidental happened only once a month -- but that it's okay... And then, someone else might. And you and you and you might. Nobody seems to realize it, but the team is getting persistent messages that it is okay to not follow our plan as BEST as we can. And taken as a whole, those messages are NOT supportive of the team goals or the team individuals.

As a leader, I have to say something! Think about what you choose to write! You have more power than you think!

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I want to also welcome you to our team MsKris... Glad to have you join us.. Just chime in with whatever is on your mind.

I think we have become a close group on this team as well, closer than any of the other teams I belong to. I (my opinion) don't think we need to keep discussions strictly to diet - there's more in our lives than that. It's nice to have you all as a sounding board sometimes, or just to share a happy event or just ramble on sometimes... I know I enjoy all the conversations from each and every one of you.

I think tracking the food is a plus as well, it helps us to be accountable (although I don't always do it).. I do track it on the meal tracker though, but not always on the individual teams.

Sharon, good to see you back and posting.. We've missed you! Are you still helping out that lady you were working for, the one with Alzheimers?

when are you going on your holiday Wispy? August sometime, wasn't it??

I'm going to try and cut my carbs down some - too many things are creeping into the mix here and I need to "re-group"! Picked up an old book by the Eades at the thrift store the other day... not terribly unlike what I'm doing, but a little more strict. I think Koshie was right, I'm kind of defeating my purpose... We'll see how it works out.

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We are so happy to have you with us. There are several different daily threads and a low carb recipe section. Sharon is right. We are all good friends on this Team so the chat is often about stuff we do in our lives because support is such a valuable thing to have and criticism as Sharon mentions is a problem for some of us with family living at home, and even friends sometimes.

We are here for a variety of reasons. Koshie is a wealth of knowledge on the Atkins way which she has used for a long while. Others of us use different plans, but the aim for us all is to try and lose or maintain our weight by using a life style that is low in carbs.

Other daily threads that you may enjoy are "what did you do today that is good for you", which Koshie started, the accountability thread which our other leader Nancy started just recently and a thread I started when I did Atkins induction.

It helps me to record my food daily as I then feel accountable to the team for what goes in my mouth. Not everyone needs this, but I enjoy it as I have a record of exactly what I have eaten to look back on and see how I actually lost the weight. :)

Look forward to having you as part of our happy little team.

Edited by: -WISPY- at: 7/24/2013 (19:31)
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I started low carb May 20th, 2013. Two months down, 12 lbs down. I am 63, so I am happy with my 12 lb loss so far. I am willing to go slow but feel I am at a stall right now. I keep bouncing between 148 to 150. I seem to do best with low carb/low calorie but I have been trying the cycling. I have not been having any problem with the posts and I think Koshie is a great leader, with a wealth of knowledge!!
I glean from everyone. I think we all have to try different things to kick start us, for me low carb has a lot of benefits.
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i also agree with all the posts , and if i am the problem , please let me know . i will understand, my goal is to reduce carbs an lose weight and keep it off . I am not doing so well but if my physical problems are not to be talked about i can handle that , let me know . I like hearing feedback and info from you all , not for excuses , to help me .
I am going to get a diet plan 17 day diet and check out the one Wispy is trying . I don't get any support ( except criticised ) at home . Oh well, my dh has the mind set if it needs doing,DO IT , and stop making "excuses" and being weak and lazy ! This said is to let you know where i am at but i can and will stick to just diet posts , no problem . Koshie do what you have to do for the teams sake and maybe " private " messages would be fine if we are straying from goals . I think we just have become " friends " and our posts reflect that as it would if we all lived close enough to " visit " for real . emoticon



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Hi there Mskris happy to see you on the chat thread.

I am feeling great this morning. One of the two pounds I gained last week has gone already.

My basic plan is low carb, but that means something different to each of us. For a long while my max for the day was 20 carbs because I just gained after that and the craving started up. Last year I discovered locarb/local cycling and that worked extremely well for me until earlier this year when no matter what I did I could not get off the plateau.

Last week I decided to return to the 'carb addicts plan', which allows a higher carb count as long as it is balanced eating - and the carbs have to be eaten at only one meal and consumed within an hour - something to do with the release of insulin. Being diabetic this suits me fine, and I want to stay away from diabetic and blood pressure meds.

It is a plan I used very successfully when I was younger. I did not know if it would work now that I am in my seventies with very little exercise.

The beauty for me is that it does not set up a craving as long as I eat the carb meal within the specified time limit. Being a carb addict from way back this is wonderful news for me. I do not know that it would work for everyone. So I am not suggesting anyone else should follow it. I only try something new when what I am doing stops working. "If it aint broke don't fix it!"

At my time of life my main concern is that my numbers are all good at the medical check-ups and that what I eat is enjoyable. That way I have no problem sticking to it. I gave up 'diets' when I joined Spark. Diets always set me on the road to reaching a goal and for me that is disaster. As soon as I reached my goal I would return to 'normal eating' and begin to regain the weight. The other thing with reaching my goal weight was that I never felt any better about myself when I got there. I still saw myself as fat and fearful. It was something on the inside that needed to change in order for me to be happy regardless of my weight.

If anyone has a problem with what I post on this team, please let me know. The last thing I want to do is make the journey more difficult. emoticon



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Koshie,
I think that you are a good leader. When ever I need knowledge I usually come to you and if you do not know I will search until I find it or give up.

You are a wealth of knowledge that I know that I appreciate. Would hate to loose you. People come and go here at SP but you have been faithful.

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Koshie, I agree with Wispy in that I think you have the best interests of the team in your heart. I do hope my remark about the ice cream thing didn't upset you -I certainly didn't mean for it to - I guess sometimes I am not always so serious.. I respect your advice and input, even on the times that I may not agree, however, none of us agree with each other 100% of the time I don't think. (that's what makes the threads so interesting.) I've enjoyed your blogs about the cycling, something which I'm thinking about, so I read the blogs with interest.. Also I read Wispy's too with her cycling.

What are you expected to do as a team leader? I can't answer that, but for me, reading your posts and your blogs are interesting and encouraging, even though I might be doing things differently at times, I think several of us are on different programs, the end result is the same for all of us, we all want to lose weight and make improvements in our health, and for some, get into smaller sizes numbers, etc. I have learned a lot from your posts and blogs, even tho they are sometimes directed to different people.

You've encouraged Sharon as well as she struggles with her edema and other issues and I know you are really trying to help..

I would hate for you to think that you're not helping us - because you certainly are - well, me anyhow... I can't speak for everyone. You always seem genuinely interested in how we are doing. We are a group and everyone's opinions are important, whether we agree or not. We all have a common goal.

And on a lighter note, the contractor got the dry rot on my house finished today - he painted and caulked and got everything replaced that needed to be and all is well. I was happy with his work. I got a good walk this morning and have eaten well today also. It's been a good day.



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Hey Koshie, it is clear to see that you have the best interests of the team at heart.
I think each team leader does whatever they think to be in the interests of the members and each member usually does the same thing. But we are all different in what we consider to be important in life and in what is helpful to a particular person, although it may not be helpful to others.

As you are joint leader with Nancy I am thinking perhaps it would be a good idea to discuss the matter with her.

However if it is my posting that is a problem - no worries honey, just let me know.

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Ladies, I've been staring at this screen a long time trying to figure out what to say... I'm in a difficult position right now in my personal life and undergoing a lot of stress. This makes it harder to me to exercise appropriate judgement in ALL areas. I question my ability right now to be a good leader of this team. I tend to think of my responsibilities as being both to individuals and to the team as a whole, to provide support and motivation, and information if I can. But I am censoring myself ALL the time and it adds to my stress.

Erin1957 was sensitive to some of the conflicts I am currently facing when many months ago she questioned whether or not she should stay on this team. At the time, she loved the community of friends she had on this team, but felt her dietary goals no longer matched the team's and was worried that she might undermine others' commitments and motivation with her posts about what she was eating. But Erin's posts were all about her desire to eat healthily and she was supportive of others' goals; and we knew we would be diminished if she left.

Now I'm a team leader, and I'm sensitive to the needs of the team; and I'm sensitive to the fact that individuals need support when trying to reach their goals. but also I must consider the fact that the team as a whole can be undermined by some posts. Is it my responsibility to say something (privately) or not?

I really need some feedback from the team about what a team leader is expected to do, and perhaps more importantly, about what a team leader is expected NOT to do. If you are not here for dietary support and motivation (the stated goals of the team), what are you here for? What do you expect? What am I supposed to do/give? And if your goals and expectations and posts don't match up with team goals and expectations, what am I supposed to do? I don't want to let you down, and I need clarity!

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I too am happy to see that you've posted, GG! I'm still praying for you and your DH.

midnight.... sleepy... g'night!

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Sharon, so lovely to see you again. I miss your cheery smiling face about the place. That photo of you two is just perfect. I have just been wondering, are you still working? If so I don't know how you are coping.
It's great to hear DH is feeling good and being able to do things.
Also hoping you get some answers to the fluid retention - it has been going on for so long, and must be such a trial to put with. I do not like it on the odd occasions when I get it. Interestingly enough I have been doing the carb addicts plan this last week, and have had no bloating or fluid retention to speak of. I had thought I might. The carbs are limited to one meal a day. I used it many years ago very successfully, but was active then.

Betty it sure is great being able to get about these days. I think having regained quite a bit of mobility is like a big gift. Being able to do all these things I never thought I would do again is wonderful.

That is interesting about the Indian tribes. It is a very unusual name, but now you tell me where it came from I do recall hearing the word before. Spoken on TV I guess, but not written.

Its a sunny, blue sky warm day here and I have been a very busy little bee. The kitchen looked like a bomb had hit it last night after all my cooking and I was too tired to clear up, so this morning I got into it. I always seem to use every pan and dish I can find when I cook, same with spoons etc. Today back to earth and want to lose this 3lb or so before I go away if possible

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emoticon Haven't been sleeping for over a week, lots of fluid and chest feels like it should be 50gg ( bra size ,lol ) went to dr and will have an Echo sometime this week . I am up to 169 on Sat am and 164 today emoticon Hardly ate anything yesterday and didn't sleep at all ! My legs are pitting and i want it to go away !! dh lost 4 lbs in a week ( last Mon.) hope this Mon. it isn't more . Treatments are going well and he " doesn't seem " to be ill at all but he is . I feel bad even saying i don't feel good . Glad to see everyone is still here and doing well . Gotta go put feet back up, they hurt all night really bad . I will lose this weight , dr. took thyroid tests too . Thinks i have RA and or Psoriatic Arth. Great ! emoticon emoticon



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Koshie, I think the ice cream yesterday was just a choice that I happened to make... No underlying reasons for it. Umpqua is a relatively local dairy and they have excellent ice cream, quite high in butterfat, so a little goes a long ways. You can get it in our grocery stores here, but I never buy it in bulk like that, but I occasionally do have just a small dish of it when I'm someplace that has it. When I said because I had a light lunch I deserved it, that was kind of a tongue in cheek remark...

Wispy, the Umpqua is an Indian name, there used to be Umpqua Indian Tribes here in Oregon and the northwest, so that's where the name of the ice cream came from. There's a lot of things named Umpqua something, Umpqua River, etc.

The house and the dry rot is coming along nicely, he'll be ready to paint on Monday (he's not working tomorrow). He's doing a great precise job! The painting will take a couple of days because there's some caulking to do and of course make sure everything is sealed. I've got a few other "honey do" things around here that need attention and after this job is finished, I'm going to make a little list for him and see what kind of charges I'm looking at and then decide how much of it I need to do. (or can afford to do). I'd like to change the lights in my kitchen and dining rooms over the tables, but not sure... I'd have to buy new light fixtures too, so we'll see.

It's difficult to find a licensed contractor that's willing to do smaller jobs, he has another daytime job, but he's not always so busy, so he does some work on the side. Works out good for me. And he came highly recommended by the people who own this MHpark.

10kg is a bit over 20 pounds isn't it Wispy?? (If I can remember my math)... That's great that you've lost that... You're doing well and seem to be enjoying the process as well. And being able to walk without a wheelchair or a walker must certainly be an exhilarating feeling for you. I can only imagine how wonderful.

I'm having pork steak for breakfast - and now I'm going to go to bed...



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Lunch sounds lovely Betty and so pleased you are getting that dry rot fixed. I don't even like to think about it. The south/west side which gets all the rain here is a bit sheltered with large trees and a high fence although I thought there was a small leak in the back bedroom last week. However Ansie decided it was just cold and not actually damp on the carpet. Thank goodness for that and I sure hope she is right.

The ice cream sounds "different", never heard of anything remotely resembling that name. Way to go girl. sure hope it was flavoursome. I too am not as totally smitten with chocolate as in days of yore. Spicy flavours seem to tickle my taste buds these days. Love the apple strudel mixture with sultanas and cinnamon. Very tasty even without the pastry. and I made oopsie Christmas cake flavour one day which was really quite good. That settled the yearning for some time.

I have been practicing carrying my luggage about today. Cant believe how much difference that 10 kg makes to the way I feel walking and just think how much more than that I carried every day of my life before Spark. Mind you I wasn't walking much when I was heavy due to the wheel chair and walker.

I am really interested though at the difference it is making. I have another couple of weeks to keep up practicing and see how I go before I make the decision whether to take the suitcase with wheels or the carry all that I want to take.

The Wispy recipe thread is there Koshie and there is one from Cindy as well. I sure do miss her. She had some wonderful chocolate recipes for high days and holidays which were pretty low carb. So sorry she left us.

Well its roast pork and apple sauce for me again today and I think apple crumble with cream
for my "carb" meal. A salad for lunch as usual. Maybe salmon again, I seem to be really in the mood for it right now.

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With a name like Umpqua, it has to be good! I am just sorry you fell that old ploy we pull on ourselves -- the "I was good, so I deserve this food treat!" ploy. It is SO hard to resist the treat within reach in order to reach for the longer-term goal!

I went to the farmer's market also today. And then out to lunch. But I ate a spinach salad with pecans -- totally within reason on my diet plan. Did a lot of strolling.... and now I am catching up with SP!




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Another warm day here today. I went to lunch with some girlfriends - had Fajitas, salad, guac and sour cream. No beans, no rice, no tortillas.. (altho did have just a few of the tortilla chips).

And then..... on my way home, I stopped at our local farmer market which unfortunately sells ice cream cones using Umpqua ice cream... Well..guess I figured I did well at lunch, I had a small dish of ice cream. emoticon

I think Koshie, if I wanted my tummy flat, they'd have to get out the big knife and really go for it, I'd probably lose 30#... Altho... like Wispy, it's squishy these days, not rock hard. Might consider it if I were younger or if anyone saw it, but... not at this age..

The carpenter has been here at the house all day removing the trim boards around my windows where the dry rot was. Thankfully, it seems to not have penetrated into the siding, so this is good! We were kind of worried and couldn't tell until he got them off. These were the windows on the south and west sides of the house, which get the weatherbeating and rain all the time. He's doing a good job.




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I had an appendix operation that went awry when I was 11 and the resulting scarring has always been a mess, so I guess my tummy is one of those parts I seldom think of. However I have to say that I like the wrinkles on it these days, as it means the fat is going. It used to be tight as a drum. :) But then of course I don't have anyone to see it - would be a different matter if I had a partner no doubt. emoticon

Way to go Betty on the walking and good food eating.

Well I am now at day 5 of the carb addicts and am loving every minute of it. Guess however that I have gained. We shall see at the end of the week. I am sure feeling a whole lot better on the inside and that was the reason I decided to try this and get my tummy happy and settled again.

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I do love cool nights; they help me sleep better also!

By yesterday evening, my tummy felt merely warm, not scalded. It is VERY red however, thanks to teeny-tiny amounts of blood that come up into the itty-bitty holes created during the procedure. I paid for ONE session. I suppose in 6-12 months, if I wanted another, I could have one if I wasn't satisfied with the results. I didn't ask! The results ARE supposed to last for years, though. Not that I think I'm going to get a sexy tummy worthy of modelling publicly! I just want the saggy baggy weight-loss wrinkles to go. The flab is all on me to work off in other ways! I mean, I did bear children, and that changes you permanently, physically! I don't expect to look like I did pre-pregnancies.

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Guess I've been "gone" from here for a couple of days... But, have had good days, both yesterday and today. Got to walk both of the days, this was good... weather was perfect in the mornings, then heating up in the afternoon. Fantastic sleeping weather! My house was about 68 degrees at 6:30 this morning since I'd had my front door open all through the night.

Went to Costco yesterday and picked up a few things - and a few more than what I really needed, but~~ nothing will go to waste. I've been eating well and on my program for the most part, may have a little liverwurst tonight on a l/c tortilla for dinner. Not sure yet.

I am going to lunch with a couple girlfriends tomorrow - it will be nice.. one of the gals moved up to northern Oregon, so we don't see her very often.

Woke up with a horrid headache this morning, it's gone now, but it was enough I had to take something for it. I suppose I slept wrong, or... spent too much time on the computer and/or reading. I've tried to not do so much of either today, however my book and I are going out on the deck in about 30 minutes.

Wispy, your hammock sounds wonderful... I never did get into the macrame, although my girls did a few things when they were teens - nothing like hammocks, but they had a lot of fun playing with it.

Koshie, Your "treatment" sounds absolutely painful - I couldn't imagine doing it for myself. I hope it works for you, be sure and let us know how it all works out. Do they just do it one time, or is it in several sessions?

Have a good evening! Not sure if I'll be back tonight or not. emoticon

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Well never heard of that one, but sure hope it works well for you Koshie.

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So for you younger women in the team:
Yesterday, for the first time, I underwent a painful laser medical/cosmetic procedure to tighten the skin on my tummy. Perhaps my body's reaction (to retain water) is partially the reason why the scale didn't budge this morning.
It was a CO2 laser and essentially, it burns tiny holes into your skin. It feels like you are being stuck with tiny needles thousands of times. Bearable, but very unpleasant! It takes 3 days to heal and 6-12 months to see results. As the skin is warmed, the collagen in it curls up tighter, thus tightening the skin; and new skin fills the holes with tightly coiled collagen, keeping the skin tightened for a long time. This procedure can also be done on your face to remove wrinkles. The pictures online are convincing -- but I wasn't about to start on my FACE with this procedure! And they really don't tell you about the level of pain you'll experience!

Anyway, after 3 days, I'll tell you how it went. Right now, it feels like I scalded my tummy with hot water. But I already notice that my tummy seems less fat. Worth it? I don't know yet!

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Brings back happy memories to me Koshie of when I made a hammock in my thirties.
It was one of the delights of being in the garden and doubly so because I made it.
It was all the rage as I recall in the macramé era. :)


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I went outside yesterday to use my hammock. I discovered that the ropes had been chewed through. I think I hate that squirrel....

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Yes, we can!!

I was so lazy today, just had no gumption at all. Felt okay, but not the best. And I had to mess around with the sprinklers this morning and that took awhile because I had to "watch them" to make sure they were all working and pointing in the right direction, etc. I think the control board for them is getting an attitude..

I did ride my bike in here, but only for about 20 minutes.. It was cool today and humid. Thunderstorms and rain in some areas of town, but not out here. I had every intention of going to walk, but then had to deal with the sprinklers, by the time that was done, I was out of the notion.

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We can do it. ;)

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I can do it too, one day at a time.

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