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THERESAVN21's Photo THERESAVN21 Posts: 76
3/25/07 11:37 A

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Thanks for all the information!

It sounds like one-on-one counselling would benefit me the most. It's just a matter of getting over my nerves to talk to my doctor about getting help. Hopefully, I'll pluck up enough courage to make an appointment soon.

Wish me luck!

And thanks again everyone! emoticon

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3/23/07 11:57 A

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Hello There...I bailed out on the group thing too after a couple of visits...too overwhelming.

It doesn't even matter to me if I had insurance or not, going to the appointments is torture. I am completely meaningless to the pdoc. It's just a paper scribbling session for him, and $195. in his pocket. My pdoc actually calls me Brenda - and my name is Julie!

Anyway, he has 3,000 patients...can't really expect him to remember my name!

I am very impressed with all of the weight lost here, despite the pdocs and how fantastic that the depression hasn't stopped anyone from making progress!

Best wishes to all...

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3/23/07 9:47 A

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I guess I'm the lucky one, I live in the US and have my own pdoc, tdoc and marriage therapist. My insurance pays for it except for a $20 co-pay. They work togeather as a team and it has been so wonderful to get the support and care I recieve from them. I see the pdoc and tdod once a week and the mdoc every other week. I stronly advise people to shop around til you find sombody right for you. I'm not sure you can do that in Canada, though.

You've got to have somebody you can call in an emergency whether it's the pdoc of tdoc, it could save your life. As for herbal suppliments and the like, I would be very careful, sometimes mixing these things can do more harm than good.

It is hard for me to get out of the house, too, and I do get anxious when I go to my appts, but I force myself to go because I know I need the help and will only get it if I do. It's definitly an anxiety trip each time though. Remind yourself that doing this is taking care of you and that you deserve that even though it's hard.

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3/23/07 8:38 A

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I have yet to see an arrangement in the Canadian system where psychiatrists and psychologists work together in a clinic. I am not saying that it doesn't exist, especailly since each province runs its own healthcare system, but I haven't heard of it. Generally speaking, up here in the Great White North we have coverage for psychiatrists, if you can find one taking patients, and we don't usually have coverage for psychologists. Sometimes benefits from work will provide for some type of counseling, but it is often social workers who actually counsel people in that arrangement, so know their qualifications. A psychologist uually has a minimum of a master's degree, and most have a Ph.D., which is usually a higher degree than the social workers have (BA), although not always.
Maybe you can interview psychologists up here, but in Ontario right now just asking your pdoc for a second opinion can get you dropped. It shouldn't, but I know it does because it just happened to a friend of ours who is seriously mentally ill, and that pdoc was the only one in the area.
Ask your family doc and psych doc for recommendations on counselling, or call your local Mental Health Associations for available programs. Help is out there, but sometimes it takes perseverance to find what you need. Don't give up.
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3/22/07 10:36 P

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ThereSavin,

The Canadian and US medical systems are so different, I don't have a clue about how you could organize this. After both my trips to "Cuckoo's Nest Resort", I had at least five weeks of daily group sessions. All that really came of them is that I found out what the therapist wanted to hear so I could get released and get back to MY therapist for my one-on-ones. One-on-one therapy has let me be honest with myself and to her. I've admitted things that bother me that nobody, NOBODY else knows, and I've been married 35 years (no, none of my problems come from a guilty conscious about an out-of-wedlock affair. My DW is also my best friend). People who know me would never apply the word shy to me, but when it comes to personal feelings, there's only two chances that I'd share those in a group - Zero and None.

I don't know the extent of your Dx, but it sounds as if you may have a touch of agoraphobia in your bag of "stuff". The OTC things that "claim" they help have, 1 - never been studied in a scientifically controlled environment, and 2 - aren't subject to a standard for purity.

One of the things I do know in my research on drugs is that the number one, across the board, most affective drug for any kind of depression or manic behavior is the drug Placebo. It works an average of 30% on every condition it's been tested on. The strange thing is that it isn't the "drug" with the least side affects or withdrawel symptoms.

Good luck on finding somehow to talk to someone you can trust in one-on-one counseling.

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3/22/07 7:18 P

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Thanks again guys
I feel a lot better knowing that I'm not the only one who has this problem with their doc. KERIBB, I also have panic attacks when making appointments!! My chest gets all tight, and I feel dizzy - maybe I just forget to breathe? I get myself so worked up that by the time the appointment rolls around, I'm a complete mess!

Anyway, I think it would be really good for me to have a therapist - that's one of the things I'm going to talk to my doc about, maybe get a referral? I've tried it before. She sent me to this group therapy thing, like a 12-step program. I was the youngest there, and everyone else seemed to have their emotions under much better control than me. I felt so out of place, that I bailed after 2 sessions. emoticon

I'd be willing to try group therapy again - it was kind of as you guys described, where you have a "team" - a therapist AND a psychologist, which I imagine would be great if I could just stick with it!! But I have all these issues holding me back - lack of transportation, my wacky work schedule, the fact that I'm so shy... I'm horrified at the idea of crying in front of a bunch of strangers, and am even more horrified at the idea of possibly bumping into someone I know!! emoticon ARGH!

...there's that tightness in my chest again...

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THERESAVN Writing down things before you go to the doc is a really great idea. It helps you not to get flustered and forget something important. Good thinking!
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Hi Everyone! My name is Kathy. I have been off my antidepressants, for a couple of months now. And, I really don't feel any different. My Psy. told me, that I only see " my glass half empty".... hello.. I am depressed! Why would I be there for medication? I stopped going to him. And fifteen minutes isn't long enough. I guess, I am just trying to deal with my life on my own. There are some days, that are hard, but I struggle through.. emoticon Kathy

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3/22/07 11:46 A

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I totally relate to how you feel. Getting to the dr. is such a struggle. Shoot, just calling the dr. to make the appointment gives me panic attacks sometimes!

You talked about your pdoc (psychiatrist) being a cold fish, and 15 minutes not being enough time to get everything out and answered. I totally agree with you there...psychiatrists AREN'T in the business to be therapists. That's why we have psychologists and counselors!

Have you tried to find a clinic that gives you access to a psychiatrist AND therapist? I've had a pdoc and therapist at the same time, but the pdoc wanted nothing to do with my therapist. I don't see either one anymore.

I finally had to start looking for another P and T. I found a clinic that has both Ps and Ts working there. After your first appointment, they form a team of at least two people, a pdoc and tdoc. Depending on your diagnosis, sometimes it can be more! They get together before your appointments, compare notes, and discuss what they feel is the best course of action. I'm actually looking forward to having a "team" of my own!

Anyway, just a a suggestion for something you might look into!

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3/21/07 8:51 A

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I don't know but I think most shrinks are kinda cold fish. LOL But I like the idea of just pickin a few major concerns and addressing those. Yeah I have to write everything down else I'll totally forget

 
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3/20/07 11:18 P

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Awesome! Thanks everyone for the words of advice - it's nice to have an outlet like sparkpeople to ask questions and share my concerns.
I'm a bit skeptical about herbal remedies - honestly, I'm a bit skeptical about medical remedies too, but that might just be because I've never been on an anti-depressant long enough!! :P

I think I just need to suck it up and make an appointment to see my doctor. She's got a bit of a cold personality so it's difficult to open up to her, but I think I can do it again. You're right POET, 15 minutes is NOT enough time to delve into anything too serious, and it's always so overwhelming because I don't know where to start.
I think this time, I'll write down 3 concerns I have, and make sure they're all addressed before I leave. If I feel like there's anything unanswered, I'll have to make another appointment.
I've got to get in the habit of seeing my doc more often. emoticon

She's there to help me, so she can't be all THAT bad lol

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3/20/07 6:27 P

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Its not silly. Its hard to share w/the doc.They give you like 15min to pour your heart out. That why I couldn't survive without one on one counciling. I go like every week when I can.

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I USED ST. JOHN'S WORT FOR A WHILE WHEN I WAS GONG THROUGH A ROUGH TIME ,WHEN I DID NOT WANT TO SHARE MY FEELINGS WITRH A DOCTOR(YOUNG &SILLY)IT WORKED OKAY ONCE IT KICKED IN

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emoticon Whoa I can really understand your situation. I also don't drive and can fall into cycles of being off meds. One thing I do when I can't or am simply unable to get to the doctors is have the pharmacy can call the doctors for more refills. It can by you time to get your self together to make and appoinment then fill that new perscription. Its a dance but it can get the job done.
Don't take chances with your depression and it dosen't sound like over the counter stuff wouldn't really cut it. That stuff is great for the mild blues like women sometimes get with PMS or the sort.

Hope this info is useful.

 
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Also, talk to your doctor and explain your fear. If your doctor is a psychiatrist, s/he might be willing to do a session on the phone before renewing your prescription. If your doc is a regular general internist, s/he might be willing to work out a compromise for you, like giving you a scrip for 90 days and then requiring a phonecall to check in, and then you're doctor can renew it by phone.

If the meds work for you, work with your doctor on how to keep having access to them

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There are a few people on here who treat their depression through herbs and vitamins so I am sure one of them could help you out a lot. I hope they see this and get in contact with you.

 
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3/20/07 8:43 A

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I've been off anti-depressants for a long time, and just recently, my depression has crept back up on me in a really bad way - my moods are out of control. For the past two weeks, I've been on and off with fits of crying and I don't know why!

I've been thinking about talking to my doctor and getting her to perscribe something, but I fear that I'll get back into the pattern I was in before: She'd give me 3 months worth of anti-depressants, and once those were gone, I wouldn't go back to get more(I don't drive so it's a pain in the butt to get there, AND I have a huge fear of the doctors office, to the point of having what feel like small panic attacks while in the waiting room!)

I'd like to get into a routine, so if I could pick up some sort of mood stabilizer at the grocery store for instance, without perscription, it would make my life so much easier.

Haha, I almost feel silly for asking, I know it's a longshot, but IS there such a thing?

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