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5/11/07 9:30 A

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I'd have never thought this was possible, but I think I'm going to try it. What a healthy alternative to pizza! I'm growing zukes in my garden this year too, so I'll have plenty on hand. Thank you!
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5/10/07 9:11 P

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That eggplant trick works with zucchini too. Just lightly oil the pan with olive oil, lightly dust it with grated parmesan or romano then cover it with sliced zucchini. Toss on your toppings and bake.

You can't pick it up like pizza, but the cheese gives it a little crunch and adds to the pizza aroma.
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5/10/07 10:38 A

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Way to Go CLABBERGIRL!
Youíre changing your thinking about food.
I have tried the GF pizza crust and havenít been very impressed. I now use sliced eggplant for my pizza crust. Sounds weird but it works. I found the recipe in a low-card cookbook. Spray a round cake pan with non-stick spray then line it with eggplant slices and load it with sauce, cheese, pepperoni, fresh basil, etc. Bake In the oven. All you taste is the toppings! When the family orders pizza, try this. Or better still have a make-your-own pizza night and you can all share the toppings but the family used Bobblies (sp?) for their crust.

I like your idea of making a list!

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5/9/07 12:28 P

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You're right, I need to focus on what I CAN eat instead of what I can't. Last night I made a list in a notebook of the foods I regularly eat that contain no gluten - chicken, baked potatoes, veggies. Then I added things I knew were gluten free, and realized the can list is much longer than the can't.

I am afraid of those times when the family orders pizza and I'm left with a chicken breast. I want to have things on hand for moments like those, but no need to obsess, right? Bake a few things and freeze?

Rice has never been a big staple of mine because of the carbs and how high the calories go, even brown rice. So if I look at it this way, more positively, it isn't such a big change after all. And really, I don't need to be eating those fat, warm, golden, buttery rolls at Logan's anyway - right?

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5/9/07 11:33 A

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You might have to bite the bullet and learn to love cooking. Trying to out on a GF diet is very hard. I suggest you rethink your approach to the GF diet. Thanks outside the bun (like taco Bell slogan). You donít have to find substitutes for bread and bakery products: youíre right, they cost way too much. But instead, decide what you can fix. A grilled or baked piece of meat (chicken, fish or beef), steamed veggies and rice or baked potato is a simple meal that doesnít take a lot of time or a lot of skill to prepare. You can expand on this simple meal. If you have cable TV try watching Rachel Rayís 30-minute meals. I find her annoying but she does have great ideas for simple fast meals.

Want some bread? Have a corn tortilla warmed for 10 seconds in the microwave with a dab of butter! Good stuff. In fact, I use corn tortilla for my ďbread.Ē I use it for sandwiches, fill it, wrap it and eat and bread at dinner. Itís a lot cheaper than the GF breads.

I have also been treating myself to high-fat foods. For example I have heavy cream in my coffee. Itís rich and decedent and I enjoy every drop of it. I also get ice cream more often too! These treats help me to NOT feel deprived because I canít eat gluten.


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5/4/07 2:34 P

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Hiya Dots!

Thank you, the rash is much better. I still have no idea what caused it. It took over a week to subside and my skin is still rough. Whatever it was had to be there. *looks around nervously* At least I Hope it was there.
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5/4/07 2:13 P

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Morning CLabber, morning Kit. Kit, you are so kind and helpful. I hope your rash is better? I haven't read mention of it.

Well Clabber, my results took 2 weeks also. One of the tests takes longer, and hopefully they sent it to a lab in So Cal. (My DH's test came back in days from same lab, so I don't get that - everyone here and on celiac.com says it takes longer ... ???hmmm).

I'm not a cook either - I was always too tired to cook! So I don't have that history either. On the bright side, I have more energy to cook now - but I don't have that discipline yet; I'm still working on changing my personality from whiner to the inner go-getter I was destined to be!

I have both a rice cooker and a slow cooker. I'd say the slow cooker can cook your rice - just slower, so plan ahead. Sometimes the night before, I'll make a big pot of brown rice with chopped apples, dates, nuts, raisins, cranberries, cinammon, nutmeg, butter, and it's like a dessert breakfast. (add extra water for the fruits/nuts - oh, and add flaxmeal at the end for extra omega-3s and fiber). yum.

I have a food processor, but I haven't used it in years. It's heavy, so I don't drag it out much. I do have a Vita-Mix, which I enjoy. It's heavy, so I don't drag it out much, but I should - so I can make smoothies. Next house, better kitchen I promise myself.

I'm low carbing it, so bread is not my friend anymore gf or not. If you really like bread, you may want to invest in a breadmaker. I make it so infrequently I can't justify another piece of equipment for the pantry - too heavy to move around - not enough room in the kitchen. I bake it in a loaf pan and it's fine.

Can you make up bread carbs with veggie carbs? Sure you can, but it's a transition. Can you say regularity? lol I do find myself having crackers (Mary's Gone Crackers are pretty good) and either hard cheese or cottage cheese and sliced tomato and topped with a sprinkle of summer savory or Herbes de Provence once in a while.

There are gluten free waffles at Walmart (on sale this week down 10 cents at $1.67/6) - Van's brand. That rice bread is the pits - save your money (though everyone has a differing opinion - I'd send you a piece if I had it, and it'd taste like the shipping envelope! lol) There are threads about bread which MIGHT help steer you there. And toasted is better.

As for the expense of eating gf. Well, think of it this way: pay now or pay later with extra medical expenses. I'd rather pay for good health and quality of life now than feel like crud with MORE medical expense had I not known my diet could make a difference. Also, just think of changing your priorities from gluten food to whole rich veggies and fruits and proteins, etc., rather than higher priced glutened foods - a lot of them aren't that healthy and are high glycemic. Who says cookies are "necessary" and healthy? Sugar causes cancer for heaven's sake - I'm trying to prevent that! (Except when it comes to a dab o honey in my tea or those Yoplait yogurts, (and lately, M&Ms and Starbursts .and and and!) lol. I'm on a binge. My problem - I'm working on it.

Anyway, another thought I have for you is that maybe you're just "allergic" to wheat? Scout through http://jccglutenfree.googlepages.com ... I was reading about B deficiency over there yesterday, and learned that B12 deficiency can cause heart palpitations (just read it at pdrhealth.com also). My doctor knows I'm deficient there - and I've been messing with my thyroid meds (which did help - but I think I've been a little depressed as a result!). Anyway, that website might have something about "other reasons" you might have your symptoms - there was quite a list.

The gf diet is daunting - that's why doctors hesitate to put anyone on it if it's not absolutely necessary. It took me a good 6 months to come out of my funk and get a routine going. It really helped that I could think more clearly too! Labs can be wrong, even biopsies can miss the damaged area! And then pathologists can read the biopsy wrong! That's why doing a trial is helpful - and to me that's the ultimate test: how do you feel?!

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5/4/07 12:57 P

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Kittah, I sympathize with the military system. We did that for 12 years while my husband was in.

I am not a cook and don't really enjoy cooking, so this is hitting me from the storebought and homemade side. I've never owned a food processor and have no idea what they're used for except maybe kneading bread dough? I make hummus sometimes and I suppose one would be good for that. I have a crock pot but the lid broke...I didn't use it much anyway. No time to toss stuff in during the morning rush (that is how unorganized I am!).

I hadn't thought about rice though. Do you use a rice cooker?

All food for thought. No pun intended. :)

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5/4/07 12:28 P

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The prices are daunting! But, you have to look at it from the other side of the equation. Start by making lists of things you CAN eat! Grab a notebook... start looking things up online. Google is a kind friend!

Google all the restaurants you usually buy from. Search the name and the term Gluten Free. I started with Wendy's because someone mentioned the salads being a good choice. Happily, the chili and the baked potatoes are now on my "Safe" list.

Barring other food allergies, you also have a list of no-cook foods that are good for a quick grab: fruits, salads/pre-cut veggies... (read labels for the next items)... corn tortillas, deli meats, cheese, yogurt, bean salads, dolmas, sushi... find a good tamari sauce for your oriental favorites, soy sauce usually is made with wheat.

Emergency foods that I carry with are apples, and Lara Bars, Kind bars and Smart Monkey bars. GFNomad also mentioned that there are 3 or 4 varieties of Zone Bars that are gluten free. I found the Lara Bars cheapest by the case at Costco. They also sold Envirokids GF cereals in a 3 pack that was $5 cheaper than buying individually at my health food store.

Because of the high cost of the few gf bread products in my area, I haven't purchased much of it. I think my diet is healthier for it. Better to make a pot of brown rice ahead of time and through it into the fry pan with veggies and seasonings whenever I'm in the mood.

A food processor is a great investment. I use mine all the time. Think of all the things you might make with it... then really consider if you will actually make those things.. lol Only you know if this is a good investment for you. Another good appliance is the crock pot! Check out reviews online and buy a good one, you won't regret it. Nothing like throwing a few things in the pot, running errands or working, and coming home to an already cooked meal. They are great for stews, soups, chili, rice and beans, even full roasts and chickens. They take longer than the oven, but heat your kitchen less in the summer.

For special occasions, I've used Pamela's brownie mix, cake mix, and pancake mix. I just purchased the bread variety to try soon. My family and I have loved this brand. My husband didn't even notice his birthday cake was gf until I had a piece in front of me =) I've had much better results from these products than the others that I have found. Bob's Mills has a few that were good... and I found another that made great banana bread but I have forgotten the name. Anyway, don't be afraid to experiment. The price might be a bit higher, but when you finally break down and prepare something for yourself it will be that much more satisfying.

I had to wait a month for my results, but I have no idea if that was due to the labs or due to the military health care system here not having an available appointment. Some people see results with the diet quickly, others need a bit more time. If you do have Celiac, it can take years to heal the damage. Take things one day at a time and know that you are working toward your goal of better health. Every bit of effort counts towards that goal, no matter how small.

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5/4/07 11:32 A

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Thanks for sharing that.

Last night after posting, I browsed the health food section of my local Kroger grocery and almost fainted in the aisle over the price of things! I really, really felt disheartened. $5 for a tiny loaf of rice-something bread? $4.50 for a box of GF frozen waffles, of which there are only 6 instead of the usual 12 I get for half the price???

I managed to stay GF for the rest of the night, even though it meant eating a Wendy's Asian Chicken salad WITHOUT the wonderful Asian dressing (I actually read the label - wheat). I tried balsamic vinegar, and ended up adding some honey mustard dressing to it (luckily GF, purely by accident).

I don't know how I'm going to do this because I regularly live off meal replacement bars - most of which surely have some type of wheat. I haven't investigated it yet because I just didn't have the energy to face another rejection last night.

I have a feeling I am going to be very, very hungry on this until I can figure something out. Of course, my stomach hurt most of last night and is still bad today but not as much - this is serving to remind me to stay away from wheat for now. I bought a book called 'Wheat Free, Worry Free" also, and have only browsed the first few pages.

Celiac or not, I am going to try desperately to stop eating wheat and gluten. But right now I'm sort of reeling from all the things I love but can't have. I have always struggled to stay away from sugar and fattening foods, and as I'm here and overweight, we can all see how that's turned out.
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Am I destined to a part-time job in addition to my full-time so I can afford to eat?

Do I need to set aside huge blocks of time to cook for myself?

Should I invest in a food processor?

Is it easier to give up all bread-like products and just get carbs from vegetables?

My doctor said one of the tests will take 2+ weeks, as it has to be frozen. ??? I don't know if that's celiac-related or something else (she's checking my pituitary somewhere in all of this). Anyone else have to wait that long for results?

Thank goodness there are places like this for people to seek solace and comfort!!!

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5/3/07 11:27 P

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Hi there! I had the same misgivings... until I tried the diet for a while. (Don't get me wrong, I miss my bread!) My blood results came back negative but with B12 deficiency, so I figured I could eat whole grains, take a few vitamins, and that my problem must have been caused by something else. Boy, was I wrong. I guess taking the break from gluten made me a bit more sensitive... or maybe I was just lacking the symptoms enough to really notice the change. One turkey sandwich on 7 grain bread and the pain was terrible.

Several threads in this forum talk about blood testing being unreliable. Biopsy is a sure way to know. Also there is a fecal test available through the mail that many have used. I've seen enough change through diet to feel that I don't need to pay anyone to tell me that I have this.

The longer I live the diet, the more I appreciate it. The more I read about Celiac, the more I'm convinced that my entire family has gluten issues. (Try taking broetchen from your 80 year old mother. Isn't gonna happen.)

For me, this is a workable solution to eliminate very unpleasant symptoms. For anyone else I can convince to give this a serious, long term effort, it is a possible cure that doesn't involve frequent visits to medical personnel. Do this for yourself for several months. Write down all your symptoms as you begin and then give your symptoms a close examination after 2 or 3 months of gluten free eating. Be sure to eliminate everything, even the hidden sources! You may be pleasantly surprised.

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word following word, I found me words,
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5/3/07 5:57 P

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My doctor is going to run the IgA and IgG tests, and is checking for B12 deficiency, possibly more. I didn't understand the rest of the things on the sheet! I told her some of my symptoms, and gave her a little family history on my mother's symptoms. She was receptive to this, and didn't laugh me out of the room like I thought she might (being overweight and all).

In the days leading up to the visit, I had almost convinced myself I HAVE celiac disease, but have been eating wheat so the blood work would be more realistic. It's sort of been a final bon voyage on bread products, shall we say. And my stomach has been rumbling, hurting, and bloating right along with the grazing.

This morning, I had a bowl of all-bran yogurt bites, but felt no GI pains until 6 or 7 hours later - and after I'd had a bagel at lunch. The 6 hour period was while I sat in the dr's office, and I began to talk myself out of the whole celiac thing.

'This is silly. I don't have it.'
'There's got to be some other reason; I've been eating wheat bread for years.'
'I had a big bowl of wheat-like stuff only hours ago and nothing's happened. I'm imagining this.'
'I'd have vitamin deficiencies that showed up on more than just a blood test by now.'

So what did I do? I stopped by Panera Bread Co. on the way in to work for proof that it's all in my head. NOW, I'm sitting at my desk in pain, trying to noisily shuffle papers at the same time my intestines begin to percolate loudy (so embarrassing when they can hear my stomach rumbling in the next cube over!) so my coworkers won't hear. And I sit here thinking how am I going to do this gluten-free thing if the results of those blood tests show I DON't have CD?

My doctor said it will harm me not at all to go on a wheat free diet, and she encouraged me to do so. Even if the results are negative, I can still self-diagnose to some degree with an elimination. But right now I'm feeling pretty weak, and playing some serious mind games with myself.

Sigh.

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