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SUNNYBEACHGIRL
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7/28/12 12:46 A

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It is amazing the foods that should be ok may cause you problems because of your physical make up. I agree that reducing down and simplifying the foods you eat is the best way to healthy.

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7/28/12 12:21 A

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Hi Trin-SB:
My heart goes out to you! I realize now that my body works the way it wants to work and my job is to give it the fuel it needs and the exercise it needs. It's going to do want it will do. As I have gotten older I have more health issues to deal with but it's okay. I eat a good diet - gf and vegan. I exercise often. I take my medication for my autoimmune disease.

I had to learn to mourn the loss of my healthy body. It's not coming back. But I can have the best health I can NOW by making all the healthy changes I can.

I have a close relationship with my dr's and try alternative medicine when I can.

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TRIN-SB
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7/1/12 12:24 P

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Hi KMart
I had already cut down on soy beans...
Yet, another medical issue came forth - I have pre-diabetes! My doctor calls it a disorder of my glucose metabolism. Either way, I know that this is serious. This could also have attributed to some of my health issues...
During the last month I realized that my allergy is back - there are only a few symptoms, but I guess my immune system is coming back again!
Now I just wish for a few other "ailments" to subside and then, I would be "happy". I mean, not fully happy, but I would be glad if my body worked again... at least partly...

Thank you!



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6/30/12 11:05 A

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If you have thyroid issues, you should stay away from all Soy products. They depress your thyroid, as does raw cruciferous vegatables - cabbage, broccoli, and cauliflower. If you eat them they should be cooked.

What oils do you use to cook with? Coconut oils and milk are supposed to help heal your gut as does probiotics. Fermented foods are rich with probiotics like yogurt (check if active cultures), and saurkraut.

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2/20/12 9:49 P

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I know it might be hard, but try going without your baking mix (grains and beans) for a while. Stick to whole foods like potatoes instead and see how you do. Beans and grains have lectins, which can also hurt your nutrient absorption. Hey, what have you got to lose by trying?!


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2/20/12 11:54 A

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@SHANNONLL: yes, my thyroid gave up working about a year and some months ago (before I started taking Lithium and Lyrica). The blood test says that my levels are ok now. (thyroid problems run in my family...)

@OAKRUN: I do eat a strictly gluten-free diet. I do not eat any processed food anymore except frozen veggies (without seasonigs). I make my own bread using recipes taken from a book about a naturally gluten-free diet: I use brwon rice, soy beans, mung beans, lentils, millet, etc. I also baked my first cakes with this "flour". My digestion has really improved since I started the gluten-free diet. I only hoped that all the other malabsorption issues would go away more quickly! But as you said, the damage was not done overnight... right....
I also have other chronic diseases you mention - but I've had them for years.... They were only diagnosed in the last three year (wow! threeeeeeeeee years!). I've read about them being possibly caused by Gluten Sensitivity - that's also a reason I wanted to start immediately: I hope that they are getting less severe when I stick to it.

@CINDYTW: I do not feel another intolerance besides gluten. I have not problems with milk, yoghurt etc. I just keep away from caffeine, alcohol, etc. :-) They make my bipolar worse...

So, thanks to all of you! I wished for some better number, like 6 months or so... I guess I have to try to be patient while taking my supplements and other medication!

THANK YOU!




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CINDYTW
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2/19/12 8:46 P

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Good points OAKRUN! I hadn't thought of mentioning the cross reactions to other grains and dairy I just take some things for granted sometimes!

I too am on Paleo/Primal/Ancestral eating plans as they eliminate the things that bother my GI system. I do have some GF foods sometimes, and I do notice the rapid heart rate after...and sometimes the same odd feeling in my gut as from gluten and casein.

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Many people 'feel better' within a few weeks after going on a strict gluten-free diet. However it takes months to completely clear the body of gluten markers and between 18 months to 2 years (at least) to heal the intestines from damage caused by gluten. If other body systems have been impaired by gluten they also take time to repair.

Not being 'Celiac' does not mean that you don't have system-wide damage caused by gluten sensitivity. Non-gluten sensitivity often manifests in sore joints, hypothyroidism, fatigue, low B levels, low D levels, anemia and fibromyalgia that the average doctor doesn't associate with gluten.

Celiac represents one particular form of intestinal damage caused by gluten. If you do some research you will find there are a significant number of autoimmune illnesses that gluten sensitivity (which often creates a leaky gut) also plays a part in activating. Hypothyroidism is one possibility, and anyone who is gluten sensitive should test for it.

Keep in mind that gluten sensitivity (just like Celac's) contributes to various vitamin and mineral deficiencies and malabsorption problems. Lots of people who are sensitive to gluten are also sensitive to dairy casein, and in some cases to an expanded list of grains. Also, being strictly gluten free must be a priority in both Celiacs and gluten sensitivity. Strictly gluten free means you have to follow the same dietary guidelines as Celiac's. A little bit of gluten will re-trigger the immune system in both disorders.

I myself carry a double gene set tied to gluten intolerance, and when tested was actively reactive to gluten and casein. I am also hypothyroid and prior to gene testing had also been through adrenal fatigue, chronic fatigue and a host of physical problems. I also react to non-gluten grains with a racing pulse and watering eyes. So other grains than gluten can cause systemic problems.

For myself, I found that I improved only after starting a strict Paleo diet (Dr. Loren Cordain's book) which eliminated out grains, dairy, legumes. It's taken about 2 years but many of my physical symptoms (except hypothyroidism) have substantially improved.

I also take Vitamin D, use a GF liquid multi, and watch my B's and mineral intake. Anyone with gluten problems is likely to have multiple malabsorption problems that won't be adequately addressed by a diet change alone. And things like a Vitamin D deficiency take several months to see a change in test results. There is no 'quick fix' for years of gluten intake.

My guess is that while you may be eating a 'healthy diet', that you are still getting cross-contaminated and thus are not seeing the hoped for improvement. Grains cannot be considered free of gluten or cross-contamination unless they are from a dedicated facility.

GF label law still allow some gluten in the food. Only a GF label from a dedicated facility is as safe as possible. Cans and boxes that say GF but also mention the same facility processes wheat or gluten cannot be considered safe for people who are truly sensitive, in my opnion.

So I would encourage you to read up on a Paleo diet. I found it much easier to follow than just trying to be 'gluten-free'. And if possible get tested for the vitamin and mineral deficiencies common to people who have gluten intolerances. Check any and all medication for hidden gluten. The darn stuff is everywhere!







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2/19/12 11:26 A

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Has your thyroid been checked? I had similar problems with getting many colds, brittle nails and always fatigued. I started taking thyroid medication a couple weeks ago and feel much better.


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Like the others said each person is different and you also have some of that stuff that messes with you stored in your fat too. So when you release it then you get the symptoms again, at least that seems to happen to me.

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CINDYTW
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Unfortunately there isn't an answer for that. Everyone is different, and has different things complicating the matter. I am still struggling to get mine back 2 years later, but it has improved. Do you take probiotics? They can help.

Cindy

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TRIN-SB
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Hi,

I'm not celiac, but am sensitive to gluten. I stopped eating gluten around the end of November last year.

I've had several "small" illnesses since last summer (my nails are brittle, I've got Athlete's Foot at one spot, I've gotten ill nearly every month, etc.). It seems as if my immune system does not really work properly at the moment. And I hate all this - it takes up so much time, money, etc.

I eat a lot of fruit, whole grains (gluten free emoticon ), legumes, vegetables... I sleep a lot due to other health conditions. I work out regularly (at home).

How long did it take until your immune system worked properly again?

Thanks for your help!

trin


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