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3/29/11 12:45 P

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The common word barn was a diverted shortening of barley house, the place to store the fodder for animals, the barn.

In 966AD the old English dictionary held the word as baerlic-croft. The baere was an early Scottish word referring to the 6 row grain plant species grown there.

It was a special food for gladiators.

King Urukagina of ancient Iraq in 2350 BC rationed 40-30 pints of a barley grain per adult during his reign.

The young barley plant like oat grass make great cat nibbling greens for an indoor house bound cat.

The barley protein to avoid in the case of gluten allergy or just intolerance is called hordein.


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3/26/11 12:43 P

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My research lead to a book by Dr. James Wilson. One main premise was that adrenal fatigue long or short and the recovery after that aggressive stress (accident, surgery, environmental stress, internal chaos undetected) which caused long term tiredness may alter temporarily or permanently the foods the body can tolerate. I was an avid eater of many foods. Now my no-nos list is longer than my arm. I now have a proper diagnosis but it took a long time for the medical community to accept then document my inability to recover from muscle stress. Post Exertional malaise. (I am allergic to work! Ha-ha). Once an organ in the endocrine system malfunctions; the tendency to lose others is common.

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I may not recognize the significance until some time later.
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3/25/11 7:37 P

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Bee did you know there is an entire diet for diverticulitis? It excludes nuts, seeds, popcorn, fruit and vegetable skins, among others. I took care of someone with this for years and we had to add fiber to her diet without adding foods from the no-no list. We supplemented high fiber cereals with fiber like psyllium or other soluble fiber and peeled and cooked every veg and fruit. Just a suggestion.

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3/25/11 7:19 P

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Dot,
I am going to leave off the margarine. I never eat butter on G.free toast. I have the cheese and it has not hurt. I melt it over my toast.

I think it is the marg the culprit that caused my problem. My hubby said for sure the fat.

I had popcorn before and it never bothered me.

See how it goes. I do not eat any sweets only the G.free cookies but that may be one a month. At first when I had to whine myself off all the things I used to eat. Pastry, pies, cakes and all the sweet things.
Since I went off sweets. I have not had any teenage pimples I call them. When before Christmas when I took ill. My face was covered with atleast five. Plus I ate sweets at Christmas as well.



I eat fish and coat it with G.free cereal and it has been fine. I eat fish three times a week. Love it.
Then other days the chicken with crock pot cooking. It is fine.

I do eat jelly plain. Has not bothered me. I eat a small portion. Only.

The tomatoes, cucumbers and the onions I stay clear off. Certain spices. I am writing a list. Keeping track. I read all the info that you suggested. In the Paleo. Deadly the food for me. That is how I got here. That food. Spinach. All those gassy foods I call them. I double up with pain.

With the butter on the popcorn I did too much.

Now I am like you. I stay clear of it. Fats. Steak I can not eat. Pork chop does not bother me. Weiners bad for me or hamburg.. Luncheon meat a no,no for me.

I think I am pretty good compared to some others. The milk. I love Goat's milk. I drank that but it is very expensive so had to cut back.

I eat pure plain yogurt. It is fine. Love the taste. Any other yogurt. Forget it.
I can eat grapes but oranges no or grapefruit.
Or orange juice. Too strong. I get heart burn after that.


Thanks Dot for your suggestions.







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3/25/11 6:31 P

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Here's a helpful Specific Carb Diet link. bit.ly/cNQof6 You can google SCD recipes and such for more references, and read other people's experiences of course. The idea behind the SCD is that the gut is easily able to digest mono-saccharides, so people with intestinal issues should stick with simple carbs. Stop bombarding the gut with extra sugars and starches, and healing will be able to take place. Watch out for dairy, eggs, nuts, too much sugar (same as Paleo for me). You might need more healing and have to work at it longer to figure it out. Maybe only cooked veg and fruits for a while?

GAP is similar, but with different nuances. Try to find blogs with others' experiences to see if you can find someone similar to you.

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3/25/11 3:34 P

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Is the carb diet still using the G. free products. I will go read that. It seems veggies and fruit upset me. Not the squach but carrots do not digest.

So go read about the carb diet. Providing it is G. free products. I am sure they are.


Thanks Dot.



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3/25/11 3:24 P

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Hey Barb, good to read that... this is a reason I avoid Barley! Why chance it.





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3/25/11 3:23 P

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Dear Dot,
The Paleo diet I cannot tolerate that. I have been there. Ate that. That is how I used to eat normal.

Kidney beans, Onions, kale, Shrimps, Spinach, garlic, Broccoli

All wonderful foods but it is terrible for me. My friends serve all that when they invite us over for supper. She is all for the good foods you mentioned. Yet, now she knows it does not like me.
She is my best friend.

Soon as I am finished.

I am in the ladies room. So when I go. I take my own food most times.

G.free. If she has something else. She does make Chicken for me but the veg she makes for her hubby and her and mine. I have know problem with yellow squach that is I am amazed at. It is a food I would not think could be okay. So she makes that.

I did not know popcorn and marg was bad for me. She has my chicken on a spit but no spices as spices I am in trouble.

So what is replaceable for the marg is the nuts and so forth. For me. I have eaten that as a snack nuts. In pain afterwards like I am having a heart-attack. I eat small like 7 of them.

So had to leave off all that.

Now the other food I have eaten has been fine. Only I cannot have any thing as sauces for taste.

I also know that I cannot eat alot of my G.food portions. It just fills me up. Then it feels like being full as I go to take another bite.

Thanks for your help.

Bee

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3/25/11 2:23 P

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Before I was diagnosed, I couldn't say what grain food caused my symptoms. For one thing, it wasn't on my radar at the time. If I had GI symptoms, looking back, I could say it was fats that made me have to run to the bathroom, not grains. I had pica something fierce, and I'd alternate between ice-cream (strawberry, not cookie dough), and sunflower seeds = bathroom.

I'd get the flu at odd times, but mostly my symptom was depression and fatigue. I thought that was cause of my childhood or being overweight ... it wasn't. It was because of gluten.

My point is that I did not have overt GI reactions until about a year before my diagnosis when I'd 'go' after each meal. I progressively worsened.

BEE - margarine is unhealthy and has transfats. I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole. You really have a lot of damage based on some of our discussions. I would consider tightening your diet for a long while so you can heal. Please consider reading about the Paleo diet. It removes all grains and legumes (amaranth and quinoa, for example, have saponins which punch holes in your villi - as do nightshade vegetables, ie potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, eggplant, goji, etc). jmho, or look into GAP diet or Specific Carb Diet (SCD). You need to alkalinize your system with green smoothies maybe - easier to digest, look into fermented foods and/or probiotics? Popcorn is acidy, as is margarine/butter.

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3/25/11 1:14 P

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I had such a reaction the other night. I am really having a real battle with fats like Margarine.
Anything fat and also seeds in Tomatoes, cucumbers but I am also have diverticular..

I woke up out of my nights sleep I mean disaster. I had to wash bedsheets, night cloths. . Thank the Lord my hubby had left the room for a second. . Only a baby would do what I experience. I had heart burn to start and then my tummy was growling but my heart burn went. Then I slept. I had popcorn three hours before bed which has never bothered me but I did do a wee bit of extra margarine over it but the right margarine. The one that is recommended for people with heart problems.

I am not really happy with my progress. It seems I am only eating nothing. It is no marg on my G.free toast . None on my rice. Ever. My food is so blend. I also cannot eat hardly my given portions. I find the G.food really fills me up in Morning, noon and night supper. On weekends I pick a popcorn night and this was my popcorn night disaster happened. After the tums of heartburn. I did sleep till 6 in the morning. Then it all happened. I was washing bed sheets. You name it. Dead tired at that time but what could I do.

I have loss weight but I am like a person in a cage that when will it come to being normal even with eating celiac. Trying to juggle for Celiac and for Diverticular. It says eat veggies and fruit but then my diverticular gives pain in that department.


It never bothered me before marg and it is like 6 weeks.

I know not many on here experience the Diarreah so may not beable to help me. Others have the sickness headaches or bringing up. I do not have that. I know one gal had same as me but not sure if she is in here. I hope she is.

Thanks. For hearing me out. Not a very pleasant help is it.

I have had so many invites to places with friends but I cannot eat in Restaurants for special activites they have asked me. Boooo, hooooo



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3/25/11 12:47 P

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Dr. Oz had an excellent discussion on the difference between celiac disease and gluten sensitivity this week. Those diagnised with Celiac Disease are only about 15% of those who are Gluten Sensitive. If you are gluten sensitive, you still need to eliminate all gluten othereise the effects will accumulate. There are 50 - 300 medical problems associated with gluten sensitivity. Barley is one of the no-no grains. You may not be able to recognise reactions when you eat crackers etc, but they are still there, causing inflammation and deterioration of your overall health. As Dr. Oz said, there are 2 million Americans with undiagnosed gluten sensitivity.
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3/24/11 10:46 P

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Barley is also in the same class as wheat so that may be why you are reacting to it. I still think that there is something in them that each person reacts to that causes all these problems and that they don't know what it is yet or don't want to find out since if they did we would get well and put them out of business.

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I think it is possible to react differently to different foods. Barley is a whole grain and what eventually set me into a Celiac crisis was whole grains, including barley. Maybe the more processed stuff is stripped of some of the gluten and isn't as concentrated as barley and seitan...

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3/24/11 3:39 P

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Thanks, my friend! Helpful advice!

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the blood test said I was negative too, but I cannot handle any wheat. Now I can get away with Budweiser beer as it is rice brewed. I do not drink a lot of it though as I don't care for it as much as my wheat beers!

I have avoided barley (except the beer) I am not sure if it will trigger anything, why take the chance!





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I think it is "normal" to have different level of reactions to different agglutinated grains if one is gluten intolerant. I do not have celiac disease, but I am gluten intolerant. What I have found is that fats are somewhat protective of intestines. This is true for lactose intolerance, also. So, for example, if I butter my bread, I don't have as severe a reaction to wheat. Of if I eat cheese with a cracker, I don't have as strong a reaction. However, for me, this is playing with fire, because if I continue to eat gluten, I will get not only the bowel symptoms (which in me are similar to IBS), but also skin problems such as itching and eczema. Eventually I get respiratory problems such as colds, allergies and asthma. It also causes my arthritis to flare up. This is true no matter how much fat I eat. But I do have half and half in my coffee, 2% greek yoghurt, and full fat cheese without many problems afterwards, except of course I am overweight! I cannot eat Seitan either --makes me ill. Quinoa is a nice stand-in for barley.

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Well. Here's one theory. When I read the ingredient lists of things like bread and crackers, I hardly recognize the ingredients. Chemicals, trans fats, fillers... NON foods.

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I am kind of in the same boat as you. The CD tests came back negative, but once I realized it might be a gluten intolerance I tried GF to see. I saw an almost immediate difference. However, it used to be that wheat products wouldn't always bother me - it was hit and miss. But when it hit....

Anyhow, now I'm finding I am 100 times more sensitive to gluten. I tend to sometimes get sick just off of a slight contamination. Apparently, once you stop eating gluten, your body reacts more strongly to it when you do eat it if you have intolerances.

Just the way it was explained to me a few months ago...

Basically, I decided to go completely GF. Since then I feel better, and have discovered some other foods I do not digest well, such as pork.

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Hello, my GF friends! How are you? I am definitely more of a lurker than a poster, but I have a question for those who are gluten sensitive. It has been determined that I do not have CD (though I still think I might), but it's kind of funny... I have sort of "experimented" with different foods, and have noticed that I am extremely sensitive to barley and seitan (wheat gluten/meat sub), but I don't seem ALL that sensitive to bread/crackers/pretzels). I mean, I do suffer from issues after all these foods, but my distress is infinitely worse when I eat barley or seitan. Is this a normal thing for a gluten sensitive person? Or am I just fooling myself, and this isn't a gluten issue at all?

I was dx with IBS years ago, and I am still finding my way, by eliminating/reintroducing various things. I just find it odd that I can sometimes eat bread, with little issue, but there are some gluten containing foods that put me almost out of commission for several days! Normal/Common, or am I in denial??

Any thoughts? Thanks!

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