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Healthy fats are GREAT! But for me, I had to cut back on the fat to lose weight. I was maintaining, no problem with fats as high as 100 -120 grams per day. But I couldn`t lose a fraction of a pound eating that much; anyhow. I haven`t cut out fat. Look at my tracker! lol There`s fat. Also, I believe that the recomended daily allowance for fat is 20-35%. I`m at 20%.
We are all different. I also have to work out for a minumum of an hour (hardcore working out) to lose anything at all. I`ve been stalled for a year and a half, so I have found what is working for me, and cutting the fat IS working. So, I`m listening to my own body....
Having hypothyroid means having to work a LOT harder than those who are not hypo.
Glad eating 40% fat is working for you. I could possibly maintain eating that much fat, but not LOSE.
I don`t eat any processed foods. So, sugar isn`t really a factor. I don`t buy sugar either. or `forms`of sugar. Just stevia...
Between sugar and starches I would say that is the cause of the obesity epidemic.

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If your diet is balanced, then eating a ton of broccoli, cabbage, etc isn't going to doom your thyroid.

Please don't fear fats!! Nuts are such a good source of so many things. I agree, it can be hard to limit yourself. The 100cal packages are great for that. However, just remember it's overall calories that count. If a handful of almonds holds you over from lunch to dinner, then go for it. I eat probably 40% fats, 45% protein, and 15% carbs and I can't hold weight on. I probably need to cut down on my fats (the ones I mentioned earlier) so I can hungrier sooner and eat more. Low fat items usually carry more sugar.... it's the SUGAR and vegetable oils that will pack on the pounds!!


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I like broccoli for sure, but I don't eat that much really, nor cabbage or cauliflower, or kale. I don't think the few times I eat these a week is enough to mess me up and I do usually cook them. Sometimes I eat raw cabbage (red) but not often. I will check for those supplements when I go thanks! Need more probiotics since I am on antibiotics I can't let myself run out!

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I can do the cashews only because I buy a bag at Trader Joe's that comes with individually packaged bags. Those little bags actually save me from eating too much because I have one in my purse in case I am somewhere without good GF and low cal choices. If I can't find something good to eat I can just eat the little bag and it will tide me over.
Brazil nuts have never been an issue for me because I grew up in Europe as a little kid and they were banned there at the time out of cancer concerns (apparently there is some fungus that can grow on certain ones that can cause cancer). I have no clue if there is really anything to it but it is enough to keep me away from Brazil nuts.

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I eat a TON of broccoli - usually not cooked. Funny, the dr. didn't mention that -- and it seems so much more likely that people would be eating broccoli rather than cabbage....
The selenium supplement is by Country Life, 200 mcg bound to yeast. Be careful because Country Life makes a few selenium supplements and this is the only one that is GF.

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Same here. I was eating at LEAST 3 cups of broccoli a day. My doc said to limit cabbage family to 2 cups a week and to cook it.
I LOVE nuts too! They are so calorie dense and it's so HARD to eat just a few... they are best left alone while trying to lose weight unless you have ironclad will power. lol

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You know I have heard about staying away from cabbage, broccoli, and whatever but I am so not going to give up VEGETABLES because some docs say you should. If I ate massive amounts of these MAYBE, but I can't imagine that it has anything to do with it because I didn't eat these types of things for much of my life and I think there has been something amiss for a while. I am focusing on the adding of things that mey benefit me like selenium rather than the taking away of anything more! emoticon What is the name of your supplement? I need to go to Vitamin Shoppe soon anyway...

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Funny you should mention the kale chips (which I love) and hypothyroid, because my endocronologist told me to stay away from kale (and cabbage) due to my thyroid. (Also I have a GF selenium supplement if you want the name).

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Yeah I am struggling with the nuts right now...Brazil nuts are supposed to be good for selenium (hypothyroid) and nuts are also an approved snack on Paleo diet, which I am trying out. But they are so good it is hard to stop! Although raw is easier for me to put down than roasted/salted. One cool thing I picked up from the Paleo team is Kale chips. They are fantastic and low cal/carb and good for you! just cut up a bunch of kale, mix with oil or spray with it, and salt. Then bake in a 300 degree oven until crisp, about 10 minutes for me, but I have convection. Even the website I have been following www.marksdailyapple.com/ says to limit fruits and nuts when you are trying to lose weight. emoticon

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Thank you for the tips on how to change the targets.


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Laura ~ Nuts are one of my biggest problems, I over eat them all the time! Who would have thought that raw almonds taste so good?

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I am gluten intolerant and I have insulin resistance. I have to be on a low carb diet to keep my blood sugar levels where they should be. I started losing weight shortly after starting the low carb diet and feel a lot better. I don't think your problem is carbs, we all have plateaus, and sometimes we just have to work a little bit harder to get over them. I hope you find out the problem. Best wishes! emoticon

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Go to your nutrition tracker and at the top there is a small button that says "change nutrition goals". Or something like that. That will take you to a page where you can add and edit your nutrients and macros.
And, for the purpose of weight loss, maybe take it easy on the nuts. They certainly are very healthy for you, but maybe something else would be better. I've been drinking tea.

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For those who do low carbs or low fat etc -- is there a way to change the SP targets for that on the nutrition tracker? Or do you just ignore the SP targets and do your own thing?

I tend to be a little low on protein too -- maybe that is the problem? I tend to be a little high on fat because my go-to snack is a little handful of cashews....and while it is good fat, it is still fat.

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Ok, got some ideas now. I am going to lower/get rid of my starches. I eat a lot of carrots, lets see how that goes.



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No. Not really... in fact when I had been eating more fat I kept thinking, "Geez! Seems like a lot of fat!" lol
I have also been going without fat for a good part of the day so that I can have a nice oily salad dressing on my salad. Planning!
Also, for those times when I have been having a starch, I have been taking a Phase 2 starch/carb blocker. I just use it for occasional use. And no more than 1 time in a day... I get it at GNC

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BO I too work 4-10's and it is challenging to be consistent. I usually do the most on my days off and am happy if I get 1-2 light workouts in on my workdays. I also work odd hours which makes it even tougher, as the gym is closed when I get out of work 2 of the 4 days.

Laura the low fat isn't getting to you? I had issues with that on the Cooler 1 plan. I just needed some thing rich and satisfying, especially for my salads! I have cut the carbs though and NO starch right now. Hoping that will help once I am over this hideous sinus infection.

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When I looked back at my weight loss "history" I found that when things were working was when I wa doing the P90X FAT SHREDDER nutritional plan.
The macros were as follows

Protein: 50%
Fat: 20%
Carbs: 30%

So, that's what I started doing less than a week ago and I'm already down 3 pounds. The only TWEAK I had made was to lower my fats from 30-35% down to 20%. This is for the purpose of weight loss. When I get to my goal, I will slowly add back some more healthy fats.
My calories range from 1400-ish to 1750-ish. Sometimes the fat in my daily tracker is SLIGHTLY higher, the carbs are usually about the same. I am eating mass amounts of protein (175-200 grams a day) and it really makes you feel satisfied all day long. I hardly eat any starches at all; including starch from veggies like poataoes, sweet potatoes and carrots. I am also doing a lot of strength in my workouts (a lot of circuits) with weights, etc.


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Barb ~ Glad to find someone experiencing the same issues. Reference increasing fiber, well some days SP tells me that I am eating to many. I love beans!

I am also trying to get in more exercise, I work four 10 hour days, sometimes more if overtime is available.

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Bo- I am working on the same thing...the scale won't move and I am doing all the same stuff as you...I think it just takes tweeking stuff until you find out what works for you according to everything I am reading. I am increasing fiber, decreasing carbs, increasing protein and fruit and veggies, keeping up my water and also adding intervals when I ride my bike. I also read that we need to watch the kind of fats and take in my monounsaturated kind...nuts, olive oil....etc. Keep up the good work and know that I am encouraged to read that you are on similar path as me....we can do this! Smiles Barb emoticon

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So many good ideas! I too end up below or on the low end of the carb count. Lately I have been on the low end of the fat count too as I have cut a lot of my cheese out and added in low fat cottage cheese with fruit for breakfast. I now have my low fat yogurt for desert with a sweet berry and a touch of honey. I batch cook with lean protein and veggies. It is a juggling contest and I think if we continue to eat healthy and try to meet our calorie goal we should be fine, I hope. I also cook everything myself and have turned into a weigh my food queen.

For my lunch I usually have my low fat tacos using homemade corn tortillas, mashed pinto beans, lean meat (usually chicken) with tomato.

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I am exactly 10 lbs away from my goal weight. On top of that, I am in general a slow loser. But this plateau is draining my enthusiasm. I will try shaking it up even more in terms of other stuff. I had been sticking to the theory that I wasn't going to do stuff that I wouldn't be able to do long term -- and I feel like in terms of time, I am near the outer limit of what I will be able to do forever.
For lunch, look at the Trader Joe's Tandori Butter Chicken (although you should review the ingredients yourself -- I see no gluten in there, but don't understand why it doesn't get their GF stamp). It is 360 calories and very tasty and very filling.
I too eat dinner leftovers for lunch. Or do a mediterrean thing with baba ganoush (homemade in the crockpot -- so tasty) and hummus and rice crackers or celery.

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I have tended to low carb eating most of my adult life and am heading back to that now. GF products are very high glycemic for the most part and high calorie usually. I think it is healthier to eat whole foods. That said, for lunches you just have to be creative. I love bibb/boston lettuce for wraps with lunch meat, tuna salad, egg salad, leftover meat from dinner, whatever. I roll it up like a taco and if I need a little zing add an appropriate sauce or salad dressing. I make extra for dinner to have the next day for lunch if you have access to a microwave. I make homemade soups and freeze them in portions. This also doubles as an ice pack. I also try to think of other salads besides the regular old lettuce salad...like cucumber salad, carrot salad or coleslaw. Hope that helps!

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I too was worried about my carb intake and I hit a plateau for about a month or two. I finally broke that plateau after going on a heavy strength-training routine. I did not want extremely large muscles or to look unfeminine but it is really difficult for that to happen--women don't have enough testosterone to look like that unless they are taking some sort of supplements. My suggestion would be to either really vamp up the weights (I also switched my cardio to kettlebell workouts instead of the stair stepper) and if you are that concerned about the carbs--try adding potatoes or a more starchy veggie to your diet.

I am sooooo sick of salads for lunch too! I need a main dish that is light for lunch but I don't know where to look. Any ideas?

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I do agree, salads can get old. I was an addict and now I'm burnt out. I am loving lettuce wraps with deli meats (applegate farms is great), and then cukes/carrots/mushrooms dipped in homemade hummus (one of my few carbs). I throw in avocado for more healthy fats. I'm also a peanut butter addict.

As for arthritis, I understand that, it can make working out frustrating. Do what you can. Lift when you are able, work with a trainer once to figure out some ideas for even bodyweight stuff you can do. Having muscle burns calories. Hours upon hours of cardio can be a total waste of time as it doesn't build the calorie-burning muscle.

Make sure you are also getting enough calories, less than 1200 puts you in starvation mode and your body will just hold whatever nutrients it does get. DO NOT fear fats. I continue to lose weight and probably take in nearly 50% of my diet in fats (nuts, nut butter, avocado, coconut oils, olive, full fat dairy- AVOID vegetable oils).

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I agree that lack of protein could hurt your weight loss but lack of carbs....no.

I am eating every GF product out there. I know I need to stop as I am sooooooo groggy, but then can't sleep thru the night. Carbs have such a bad effect on me. I am a true carb addict. So.....what do you eat? I can't do dairy either so no yogurt, cheese, nothing that used to fill me.

For lunch if I eat another salad with chicken I"m gonna scream. Other ideas????

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How far away from your goal weight are you? You know what they say about those "last ten pounds". It may be that you are close to that "happy weight"

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I have tried (and continue to try) the traditional plateau breakers. I added more strength training. I added more cardio. (I am limited in what I can do due to an arthritic condition -- but I still get in a good amount of exercise). I have changed up what I am eating. I have cooked new recipes. It is only after all those that I am wondering about the carb thing. But perhaps that is not the issue.

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I also avoid the GF crap out there. In fact, I never eat more than one starch per day. My carbs also come from fruits & veggies & dairy mostly. Any type of starch (GF or not) makes me BALLOON.
I have laely lowered my fat intake... I believe in eating healthy fats, but for the purpose of weight loss, I have lowered them to about half of what I was eating. (30-40 grams of healthy fat per day). Seems to be working...
Too few carbs? Most likely not.
I agree with CYCLINGGAL. Try adding an extra 15 minutes onto your workouts. Cutting back 100 calories a day, etc. Also, if you have been losing and stalled, have you adjusted you caloric intake? If you are weighing less, you body needs less calories. Also, make sure you are doing your strength training to build muscle and boost metabolism. Eat lots of lean protein too.

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Not eating enough carbs is unlikely your problem. Plenty of people continue to lose on very low carbs (myself included- my carbs come from fruit, veggies, and coconut flour).
You are likely just experiencing a normal plateau. Try varying your workout routine, make sure to lift weights (heavy, no skimpy weights- yes, even women). Add in activity in other ways if you can.
Don't get discouraged. You're doing yourself a major favor avoiding a lot of the "gluten free" crap that's out there!!

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My weight loss has slowed to almost nothing (for 2 months!!!); I have gone through the faqs on plateaus, and I have taken steps...but it is not working. I have been patient and while less than perfect for sure, I have been pretty good on the eating front AND the exercising front. I am now wondering if perhaps it could be because I now eat fewer carbs. I went GF part way through my weight loss (for medical reasons) and had to revamp my "go-to" foods. For me this has meant that I eat fewer carbs -- not because I can't find GF carbs but because I find that GF carb rich foods are SO caloric. I used to eat a sandwich for lunch on wheat bread. Eating it on GF bread would make staying within my calorie limits nearly impossible. That is just an example. I do eat one piece of millet bread in the mornings and I do eat brown rice. But I am consistently low on the carb front. This wouldn't bother me but for the fact that I am no longer losing weight. I am wondering whether anyone has had a similar experience, and if anyone thinks this could be the issue. I know that typically you hear about staying away from carbs to lose weight but the Spark food report keeps telling me I need to up my carbs.

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