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MARGIE100%PURE's Photo MARGIE100%PURE Posts: 1,513
7/9/10 10:39 P

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We do too, BobbieLeeJ, thanks for asking. We can better a fellow Gluten-free member's life when we collaborate from experience. The authorities claim we are only a 1% minority in the world of food choices and needs. I feel this is only masking the heavier population count of food sensitivities for all. The signs are there, we, everyone (gluten-free or normal), choose to not see it. The next generations of food eaters need to learn about body responses to food and only by following your example can they see the truth reveled

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BOBBIELEEJ Posts: 18
7/9/10 2:26 P

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Wow, thanks, everyone, very helpful. I've known about kinesiology or muscle testing for a long time, but don't always trust it when I do it for myself. I will try the pulse test, plus check the online suggestions, and if I am not sure, I'll call the mfg. I am finding this is a great way to find things out!

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or, just call the manufacturer and save yourself a lot of time.

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MARGIE100%PURE's Photo MARGIE100%PURE Posts: 1,513
7/9/10 1:42 A

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I have seen a version where you take a resting pulse, then take pinch of fresh or dried herb and rub it into the thinner side of the skin on the arm above the wrist for the same 30 second follow up steps.

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Impatience does not provide the time to learn the lesson;
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7/9/10 1:31 A

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Self-testing is one great way to find the initial body response and to verify any assumed conclusions. Take Doctor Arthur Coca's pulse tests. He is famous for creating an allergy test over 40 years ago. It is known in book form as "The Pulse Test".
Another great comprehensive source is written by Shelly Case, especially for Celiacs; her book "GLUTEN FREE DIET, A comprehensive resource guide" has a great chapter on the nasty 'seasonings' with hidden glutens. I agree with the idea of sticking to single herb or spice for a while until you know what is okay for yourself. I am basically gluten intolerant but may also, truly benefit from these tools and information sources, too.

There are a few styles of pulse testing for finding the spices and foods that may not agree with you. Research on the internet to get the facts, talk to your doctor about this form of test, you may need his support or one of Orthomolecular experience later to verify this testing is safe and verify your own conclusions for your food questions, then explore with a spotter, with time to take notes, and with miniscule amounts to flush well if needed. Here are two presentations to start you off with the idea of self pulse testing...

The pulse test relies on the adrenaline release of both allergies and sensitivities. When this happens, the pulse rate goes up, and since it's easy to measure rate, this becomes a tool to locate allergy and sensitivity. Dr. Coca found this technique many years ago, and it's still one of the best, and certainly the least expensive.

PULSE TEST Part 1
Procedure
For 3 days you will be taking your pulse 14 times per day.
Once before you get out of bed
once before each meal
3 times after each meal at 30 minute intervals
and finally, just before you go to bed.
All pulses should be taken sitting, except the important one upon waking. Write down your results, and record what you eat at each meal. For best accuracy, avoid snacks, but if you succumb make a note of what you ate.
It is extremely important that you take a full 1 minute pulse: do not take a 15 second one and multiply by 4! Accuracy is all important here. Do not smoke during the 3 day test, as smoking affects results. This test may not work if you are taking a medical drug to control your heart rate, such as a beta-blocker.
INTERPRETATION OF TEST, Part 11.
You can characterize your pulse as follows:
1. The daily low pulse rate. Normally this will be your waking rate, unless you are sleeping on something you are allergic to!
2. Note the highest and lowest pulse on each day. The maximum normal range difference is 16 beats. If your rate is higher than this, you are allergic to something.
3. Once you have your average pulse, and your differential ( the difference between the daily low and high rates), anything that causes you to vary from that is suspect.
4. Therefore, taking your pulse after each meal will enable you to tell whether something in your diet is increasing your pulse rate, indicating sensitivity.
5. A routine of eliminating elements of that meal, and testing again, will enable you to identify the guilty substance.
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(Note - if a person is KNOWN to be very sensitive (anaphylactic) to any food or substance - DO NOT test even sublingually. If you know you are allergic or sensitive, you don't need to test - why take chances.


At this point, start testing foods. If necessary, use a blender to liquefy foods with distilled water. Use syringe (without needle) to drop 2-4 drops of liquefied food under tongue (sublingual), and instruct patient to keep from swallowing as long as possible.
Take the pulse before first test, and set timer for 10 minutes after drops under tongue. When timer goes off, measure pulse again. If it jumps more than 5 points, you've found one food problem. It may or may not be the one that is causing the major problem, but you are gaining knowledge at this point.
When it jumps quite a bit over resting pulse, wait until it comes down a bit at least before testing another food. Patience is a virtue here. It may take an hour or so between tests, but the best part of using sublingual is that the amount is small, and the body recovers fast - virtually no chance for anaphylactic shock. When a very sensitive person stays off the offending food for five days, they may become much more sensitive, and reactions (including pulse) are much more drastic and easily seen. If you KNOW, you are allergic/sensitive to any food. You should avoid testing that food.

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Edited by: MARGIE100%PURE at: 7/9/2010 (01:38)
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If you miss out of life to the fullest; they win.
You are the happiness master of your own mind.
Thought is an active dynamic energy to harmonize and corrolate good.
Clear all paths to love thru forgiveness.
I may not recognize the significance until some time later.
Is my resistance to change really that strong?
Impatience does not provide the time to learn the lesson;
Awaken new ways to approach the dissolving of a problem;
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7/8/10 11:09 P

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I think if you stay with the single spices you should be ok but the ones that they mix is another story. You have to be real careful with them and read all the ingredients and if you are not sure then don't get it. You can always make your own.

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7/8/10 6:01 P

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i know! it can be so frustrating to try to figure out what's safe. i'm still working on it, 3 months into diagnosis.

anyway, i'm uber paranoid, so i call the manufacturer to check if they certify the product as gluten-free.

i had to throw out a ton of spice blends (no spices) when i went through my cabinet. most spices are safe.

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7/8/10 5:57 P

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Here's what I found on a quick websearch:

Gluten Free Medications: www.glutenfreedrugs.com/

Gluten Free Spices: jt-mj.net/stuff/spiceglutenfreelist.
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- this may be from a few specific manufacturers, I couldn't tell. I don't have issues with spices, so I've never worried about just plain spices. Blends, of course, are a whole 'nother thing.

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BOBBIELEEJ Posts: 18
7/8/10 5:47 P

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First post ever, but gf can drive a person crazy and I need to know! - I seem to have trouble when least expected, and often suspect spices. Am I just allergic to chili powder? I know some spices have gluten, but darned if I can figure out which ones! How can I know? Oh, and along with that, how do I know which supplements/rxs are okay??

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