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SHAZZIEBABES's Photo SHAZZIEBABES Posts: 127
9/23/09 3:23 P

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Things WILL get better for you, it does take time though. I still feel as if I'm being deprived when I watch people eating and they don't have to dissect the ingredient list or ask for assistance. People at my work are obsessed with what I eat and everyday I get questioned on what I can/cannot eat and just don't understand at all. My family say they could "NEVER" eat the same as me because they couldn't handle it. They way I look at it is that GF eating is a lifestyle, a healthy lifestyle at that, and yes, some days it can be depressing, in fact depression is a linked condition but for alot of people who stay symptom free eating GF, GF eating is a blessing! Chin up!

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9/20/09 9:27 P

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gosh i truly don't know what i'd do without this site!!! it totally normalizes all feelings. thank you so so much for all of your help and kind words. and yes! betty crocker gf! i've heard about the new line and i can't believe i haven't tried it yet, especially since i have such a strong sweet tooth. oh what am i saying, all of my teeth are sweet ;c)

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9/20/09 10:31 A

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I'm not surprised you're feeling so upset if you're only 3 weeks in--the first year is by far the most difficult. I'm also in mid-twenties, but I've been GF for a little over six years. The first year, all I did was cry. All the time. Especially since back then, the only bread/pasta I could find was this truly heinous brown rice stuff that actually tasted like cardboard. I thought, is this what I'll be eating for the rest of my life? And I'd cry. Or I'd try to bake something and it would turn out God-awful and I'd cry again over the wasted time, effort, and money. It's really, really hard. But I can honestly agree with everyone else that it gets better. I've gotten much better at baking, which is what I missed the most, and have even gotten to the point where the process of baking is more soothing to me than actually eating the results, so if they don't turn out perfectly, that's okay. I joke that it's my version of a Japanese tea ceremony, haha. I'm impressed that you've made it 3 whole weeks without cheating--that deserves a celebration. And if it's cupcakes you're craving, try the new Betty Crocker GF mixes--super easy and you won't know you're missing a thing!

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I can relate to the desire for the emotional and social connection that often happens around food.
Being Cajun I think is worse than being Italian...every recipe starts with a roux or uses a canned soup with gluten hidden in it for texture...I have this longing to go to all the mom and pop places of my childhood. However, I know the price of being sick isn't worth it. It doesn't make the desire any easier to handle.

Since I have moved back to Louisiana and don't have the same options I had in Seattle, I get that way too. In Seattle if I wanted a gourmet cupcake I would make trip to the Flying Apron or to my favorite - Davinci Cafe/Wheatless in Seattle. Kaili the owner of DaVinci's is totally amazing with the flavor combinations she comes up with.

Here in Louisiana it seems like so much happens around food and there are days when I just don't have the fortitude to deal with trying to get a safe meal. Especially with people I know that like to be able to order quickly and get quick good service. The pressure of figuring out a new menu or just sitting with my cup of tea doesn't cut it. The other night my mom and step dad went out for pizza and asked if there was anything they could bring me back. All I wanted to do was to be able to go out for pizza with them or order in a safe pizza. Instead I had anticipated my pizza craving and had an Amy's rice crust cheese pizza ready for me in the freezer. The crazy thing is I didn't even enjoy eating it.
As time goes by I revel in learning the crazy chemistry of GF cooking so I can have my special treats now and again. Even with those my belly sometimes doesn't agree with my emotional need for it. The rest of the time I cook fab meals that rely on the freshest produce and meats/seafood I can get around here. Today it was garden fresh tomatoes and okra with local shrimp served on polenta cakes. Way more satisfying than anything I could have ordered out. At least the starches of choice I grew up with were rice and corn grits...so I can make some of the comfort foods I grew up with.

As far as the need for a good bowl of pasta goes...tinkyada has really great rice based pastas. Trader Joe's has a penne I really like. Check out the thread on people's favorite brands to get some jumping off points for other foodie basics to have on hand.

I don't know if it is an age related mentality about wanting something right now as much as a current speed of life in America mentality. Even at 37 I don't have the patience to make that fresh loaf of GF bread or cupcakes to get the instant gratification need met. Sooner or later I gather up enough energy to try something new. I even made cupcakes and put a bunch in the freezer for treats that I rationed out over a couple months. Especially if I had stuck to my dietary and exercise goals for the week. It helped me deal with the satiation of being pampered and let the other stuff roll off my back.

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9/15/09 4:53 P

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well i can say i'm SO glad to see that i'm not the only one ;c) it really does feel like withdrawal symptoms. like losing a best friend. gfnomad, i understand that quote and truly believe it, but at the same time, for me? it's not just "an addiction" to wheat and gluten. it's the social aspect, the emotionality of it all. i'm sure that these 3 weeks without gluten have made my body not PHYSICALLY crave gluten. but that doesn't mean that i won't look at a friend eating a giant plate of penne in a rose vodka sauce, dipping her bread into the sauce, and topping off the whole meal with a slice of carrot cake, and feel completely and utterly wretched about the meal i'm eating. it's just really really hard, and i think it's even made me more cranky in my marriage, haha. but it's true, at the same time, i definitely don't want to be destroying my intestine and increasing my risk for diseases down the road... but i guess it's such a 25-yr old mentality to just think about the here and now. and right now?? i want a gourmet cupcake, *&%$ it!!!!!! ;c)

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9/15/09 12:58 P

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This was just posted on the Phoenix Celiac group that I belong to and I think it is of interest to any who think a little bit is doing no harm.
"My dermatologist, Dr. Tripp says that it doesn't matter whether you are gluten sensitive (forerunner of Celiac) or now have Celiac. The results are the same. You have to eliminate gluten. She says that being "sensitive" only means that you feel the effects more. You are getting your villi chopped off whether you feel it or not. "

Gluten and wheat products are addictive. If you are still eating gluten, it is because you haven't overcome your addiction. Once you do, you will no longer have the desire for the gluten products. That's comes from me from nearly 30years of experience. Barb

Been to Tombouctou and back! Truely! (Timbuktu in English) photos and more Travel Adventures at www.flickr.com/photos/cdnnomad/sets
Recognizing Celiac Disease www.recognizingceliacdisease.
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10 Tests that could save your life www.50plus.com/health/10-tests-that-
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Dr. Alejandro Junger - 'Healing the gut' (from Dr. Oz) www.doctoroz.com/videos/3-day-jumpst
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GFNOMAD's Photo GFNOMAD Posts: 1,498
9/15/09 11:22 A

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You threw me off the first time when the title had an 's'. I was thinking a book by the Celiac Chicks or something like that. Gluten Free Girl is Shauna's book. I've been following her blog for years. She is very inspiring cook and a wonderful writer. Her photographs leave my mouth watering. I'm glad you found her book and that it gives you hope. Barb
ps I must have needed some coffee to wake up! lol

Edited by: GFNOMAD at: 9/15/2009 (11:51)
Been to Tombouctou and back! Truely! (Timbuktu in English) photos and more Travel Adventures at www.flickr.com/photos/cdnnomad/sets
Recognizing Celiac Disease www.recognizingceliacdisease.
com/21.html

10 Tests that could save your life www.50plus.com/health/10-tests-that-
could-save-your-life/1676/

Dr. Alejandro Junger - 'Healing the gut' (from Dr. Oz) www.doctoroz.com/videos/3-day-jumpst
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9/15/09 10:43 A

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ForaFitme said it perfectly...an abusive relationship that we must actively flee. I was born with a set of very discerning, very picky taste buds...I can go into a restaurant and come home and duplicate nearly anything I've tasted there. I also have an immune system that is a committed and violent enemy to the body that houses it. No amount of exquisite tasting food can justify the years of illness it has caused...and will continue to cause if I indulge those tyrannical taste buds. It isn't an easy fight, but what are the alternatives of not taking up the battle?

"Truth, and therefore, success, is generally found at the balance point between two opposing tensions." (D. L Veach, writer and artist)


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9/15/09 9:59 A

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I sure understand. I still can have those days. What makes it harder for me is I know I can have little cheats and not get sick from it outwardly. I do have DH and it can break our.The only thing that makes me stick with GF I know the long term effects and the damage it can do. It does get better as you learn to cook great homemade food alternatives.

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I know how you feel. I am not Italian but I should have been born one. I love the experience of food; The taste, the appearance, the aroma. The joy of dinning for hours celebrating good company and friends. (I am not saying eating a lot. The experience of food is an enhancement of the social gathering not the other way around. Long slow courses not a massive meal.)

Gluten - It's a love who's relationship with you is sour and you must part for your own well being. Reflect on the good times as you do with a sweet past relationship but remember you are always better for moving on. Cherish the memories but take comfort in knowing you never can get back the same relationship once the trust is broken. Maybe even consider it as an abusive relationship; it tries to lie to you, drawing you back for the comfort of the known.

Take heart if you like to cook there are so many good recipes for similar foods. I made apple fritters - oh yummy!! the only problem was there wasn't enough. And cranberry scones, wow, could eat them regularly.

Sunday we attended a new church, they were having a pot-luck and we had to leave because I didn't know what was safe for my family. My kids were really disappointed. And, I miss Banbury Cross donuts and I miss many foods and the easy of making them. My daughter was diagnosed 5 1/2 years ago. Although I miss foods and the easy of eating anything I wanted the longing isn't so painful.

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emoticon Can TOTALLY relate to your feelings. It's just so much EASIER to live without being a foodie police detective. The feelings come and go, but are few and far between the longer I'm gf. On the plus side, I have learned to not want the good food I smell, so that's a plus. I just enjoy the smell. I like what Barb suggested and think that's a good idea: to treat yourself often so you don't feel deprived.

Gluten Free Girl's book is such a nice read. I'd recommend it, too.

www.amazon.com/Gluten-Free-Girl-Foun
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GFnomad, it's simply called - Gluten Free Girl. www.amazon.com/gp/product/0470411643
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e=UTF8&tag=glutfreegirl-20&linkCode=R>as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creati
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She and her husband are working on a cookbook right now, as soon as its out I'll share the yummy recipes I tried(I'm not allowed now).
It was one of those things that were meant to happen. I hadn't seen her blog before or heard of her, I won a gift certificate to Borders. I went in to buy Gluten Free Bible and another book I can't remember now. I didn't get the GF Bible because her book called to me.
Her childhood was similar to mine and she has such a talent with writing. I'm a picky eater when she talks about foods I hate she writes so eloquently that I want to eat it. When she wrote about meeting her husband post diagnosis it gave me such hope. This is from her blog and similar to whats in the book - glutenfreegirl.blogspot.com/2006/06/
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et-chef.html


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It's very normal and after 28 years I still find social situations involving food difficult. Not to make you feel worse but 'can't you have a salad' just doesn't cut it when everyone else is enjoying wonderful food. I compensate by cooking wonderful food for myself. Check my Spark photo gallery.
Jen, I sure can relate to the single and celiac issue. I haven't heard of the Gluten Free Girls book.

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10 Tests that could save your life www.50plus.com/health/10-tests-that-
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What you're feeling is perfectly normal. Think of it as a death and realize that there are 5 stages of grieving and being sad is ok, and being mad, and not thinking its fair(nothing in life is), bargaining and finally acceptance.
www.memorialhospital.org/library/gen
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I'll tell you I went through something similar 7-8 months ago. For me its was more about me being single and having a hard time finding dates to begin with and now add CD on it. I don't want to blurt out that I have CD but feel like I should give some warning so they don't think I'm a bitch if we go to a restaurant. After reading Gluten Free Girls book I felt hope and did find someone for a short while but he wasn't over his previous relationship so we parted ways.

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I do have days like that. Most often, when I am feeling down anyhow. It just seems so much more unfair that I can't have some of my old favorites. On the other hand, I remember the pain I used to be in, and the ER visits and being made to feel like a drug seeker. Suddenly I don't miss those foods so much anymore.

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has any one else felt a tad bit of depression due to celiac? not clinical, clearly, but just situational. i'm a food-loving-italian, and i LOVE food, more for the taste and experience of it. i guess a "live to eat" kind of mentality, not an "eat to live." i don't mind the honey nut chex cereal for breakfast, cuz i can still eat cereal at least. but the fact of the matter is, i hate that i can't just eat whatever i want anymore. it's enough that i feel like i'm not myself. they say that after you cut something out for an amount of time, you stop craving it. for me? not the case. i've been feeling really down about it recently. anyway. just wanted to know if anyone else could relate. emoticon

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