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2/1/09 5:43 P

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Here is what is interesting about magnesium ... it helps your body absorb the other nutrients you are consuming. If, like me, you have been eating gluten for most of your adult life, then you need some help healing your intestines.

When I first met my nutritionist one of the first things she put me on was Magnesium Glycinate (I'm using KAL brand now). I had to keep adding a 100mg tablet every day until my bowels moved on a daily basis (about 16 days so 1600 mg). I had to stay at that level for several months and then was able to back off a little. But here I am over 3 years later and I still take 1200 mg Magnesium Glycinate every night. My bowels move a couple of times a day and here is why I share this information; your body will be willing to eliminate toxic fat that it has stored if it has a fully functioning elimination system. It won't let go of toxic fat if the toxins will affect the system again. (And we are trying to lose weight here, right?)

All this to say that taking magnesium isn't just to solve the problem in the moment. A long term course of magnesium will help you heal from the affects of gluten intolerance. Magnesium Glycinate is the gentlest form of magnesium.

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2/1/09 10:28 A

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Sounds like you already got the word about Vitamin C and magnesium. It has been a lifesaver for me. I have been constipated all my life and until a friend told me about powdered vitamin C. I get buffered Vitamin C powder and put it in a glass of water mixed with cranberry juice (the real stuff, not the cranberry drink) and take my vitamins with that every morning (including the magnesium). You can adjust the amount of Vitamin C with the powder. I can take as much as 1-3 grams depending on what I need. You have to be careful with the powder because you can go in the opposite direction if you are not careful and end up in the bathroom all day. LOL

I also stay away from all dairy, as that is a trigger for me.

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For my starches I try to stick with brown rice,potatoes with skin on, and quiona. For the quiona i spray the pan with olive oil non stick spray, cut up onion,carrots and celery brown them,add 1/2cquiona(soak it in cold water while browing the veggie)then add 1 cup of water, with 1 tsp. of chicken base(the brand i use is called Better than boulillon)simmer in the pan on low until all the liquid is gone. Sometime i throw in frozen brocolli with it too.
You can also, use fish oil or flax oil capsules
I don't know if any of you have tried stool softener.


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HARRYC2022 Posts: 41
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Miralax update: Day 3 had positive results. I don't think this is a long term solution but it was a blessing.

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Thanks for this thread, it's a blessing.

I've been rather confused by the same issue. I know that I eat much the same things without rotating through, not near enough fruits/veggies/fiber - truly I am working on that, however slowly. In all my 47 years, I have never had to think so much about eating...and the other side of that too!

Just having this discussion to take notes from, learn from means a lot.

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My 2 cents:

I was going to suggest the vitamin C and magnesium as well (I use Natural Calm magnesium by the teaspoon. You'd up the dose gradually til you get results). Before I was CD diagnosed I used to eat a particular brand of vitamin C in a roll, like candy, and figured that one out the hard way (or should I say easy way?!)

Another option: 1/2 bottle of castor oil, or Epsom Salts. (Both Milk of Magnesia and Epsom are hard on the kidneys long term - not sure about castor oil, so talk to doc about dose, but I've heard 1/2 bottle of castor oil). If this fails: 2 glycerin suppositories? A hot bath to relax, and stiff cup o'joe?

:( All those prunes and no action? It must have been hard on your pancreas, too. Personally, I'd stop fiber supplement for a while (fiber is mucky). Are you taking probiotics on an empty stomach and waiting 1/2 hour before eating so they can do their thing? Maybe they're doing you a favor and this is only temporary (unless it's the introduction of the fiber supplement).

You didn't mention the fats in your diet: maybe that would help, also (ie, a tablespoon of flax or olive oil), too. This might help as a daily routine, not just to get things moving this time around.

I LOVE Ann Louise Gittleman, too! ;0)

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Flaxseed Meal Cereal

1. Bob’s Red Mill Whole Ground Flaxseed Meal, 2 Tbsp.,
2. Splenda, 1 tsp or one packet
3. Water, Hot, 1 fl oz or enough to mix
4. Pecans, 1tbsp. chopped

Mix all the ingredient & eat it. This is my desert for the day. I eat this every day to be a regular.....

I do drink 8 glasses of H2O.


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1/29/09 6:00 P

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Ditto for the suggestions about adding flax. You can get it pre-ground (keep it in the fridge) or whole see and grind in a coffee grinder. I also love Mesa Sunrise cereal and I use Bob's Red Mill Gluten Free Oats. As long as I keep my fiber intake up to at least 20 grams a day, I'm fine.

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1/29/09 11:08 A

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I'm not a big fan of Quinoa. I like Arrowhead Mills Rice and Shine for hot cereal. For cold cereal I like Nature's Path Organic Mesa Sunrise Cereal. My Dr. just told me I could add oats back in so I'm looking for GF oats now.

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1/29/09 11:00 A

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This is from "Cooking the Whole Foods Way" by Christina Pirello. It is actually the beginning of a salad receipe but I think the cooking instructions for Quinoa would be the same. (I'd cut it in half BTW if I was just making it for myself for breakfast.)

2 cups spring or filtered water
pinch of sea salt
1 cup of quinoa (rinsed well).

Bring water and sea salt to a boilover medium heat. Add quinoa and bring back to a boil. Cover. Reduce heat and simmer 30 minutes ir until liquid is absorbed and the quinoa is fluffy.

If you want to make the salad:
The rest of the receipe called for a cup of corn, cup of green peas, a cucumber peeled, seeded and diced, and 1-2 stalks of diced celery. The dressing included the juice of 1 lemon and the juice of 1 orange, 7-8 leaves of mint minced, 3-4 basil leaves minced, a touch of soy sauce and 2 T of olive oil. Whisk this all together and pour over the hot quinoa mixture. Serve immediately or the quinoa will become soggy.

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What kind of cereal do you eat...I just bought some quiona (SP) but I don't know how to cook it..I will keep a food journal to try and isolate the problem. Do you know if stress can cause constipation. I have had a lot of stress with work so I don't know if that is causing some of the problems. I once followed the Fat Flush plan by Anne Louise Gittleman and felt wonderful...I may just have to do back to her way of eating for a while to see if that helps....Thank you for your suggestions...

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I tend to be on the constipation side as well. I can eat 5 -6 fruits a day and be normal. I need to make sure I have enough liquids. I find I am more regular when I add ground flax seed to my morning cereal.
A common cause of consitpation is delayed food allergies, sensitivities.
Do you keep a food journal. Try not eating the same food group every day so you can isolate the problem food. It is also called the rotation diet.

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1/29/09 10:27 A

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I also have an under active thyroid. I didn't realize that could be part of the constipation problem. I've tried the fiber and it just seems to make matters worse even if I increase my water intake. My colon is just plain "sluggish." I do find that when I stick to the walking regime; things do move better....pun intended. My Dr. told me to take 1 tablet (1,250 mg) Magnesium Malate and to ramp to bowel intolerance.

(1)Begin substance at one tab. 2)Add one more dose every 2 days. 3)Divide doses as evenly as possible. 4)Continue to go up by 1 dose every 2 days until symptoms of overdosing occur...that would be diarrehea.) I ended up taking it at breakfast, lunch, dinner, and bedtime. After a while, I discovered I didn't need as much and was able to cut back to one a day. There is another kind of magnesium that is more effective for some people; but I am not sure what it is. Another thought: If you have had your gallbladder removed; you may need extra bile salts.

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It is definitely not all in your head! I think your idea of trying to cut out the milk and carbs might be good. Journal to find out what the answer seems to be. Have you also tried to take a large dose of vitamin C or magnesium? (Don't overdo either one though as that could cause more problems.) I can relate to the problem. Once I was in that situation and went to the store and bought the Chocolate Ex-Lax and took the whole box with no results!
When I told the doctor what I had done he was really upset with me. He said that was like putting explosives into your insides. (I would have been worried if something had happened but I got no results at all. Milk of Magnesia is more helpful for me I later found out.) I hope you can get it figured out.

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Constipation is a problem for both conditions (hypothyroid and celiac/gluten intolerant) - a double whammy indeed! It is very important to drink lots of water. Psyllium especially calls for an increased fluid intake, since it draws water from the intestines to bulk the stool. I suffered with this for a long time and find that by keeping well hydrated and consuming a high proportion of fruits and vegetables helps greatly. Additionally, since it is inconvenient to find 'safe' carbohydrates, I don't eat much of this food group. Choose brown rice over white and try adding flaxseed. Wishing you good luck with this annoying problem!

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1/29/09 9:46 A

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I've been GF for 6 months and I have the same issue. Like yourself, I am doing everything right but still have issues. Dairy makes me go in the opposite direction but I'd definitely try stopping it for a while if I were you. I don't have trouble with cheese or butter but Milk and ice cream are issues.

I just had my 6 month check up and my doctor suggested miralax. I've been on it for 3 days with no results but we'll see. As far as the Dr. who says it is all in your head, I suggest you get a new doctor and dump that turkey. :)

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I have been exercising, I run/ walk on the treadmill and I just started doing the Leslie S.... walking DVD's. I do drink milk so maybe I will have to stop for a while. Have you heard of anyone getting constipated from rice...I think that I might stop eating carbs (gf bread/rice/potatoes) and stick to veggies/protein/fruits for a while and see...Thank you for your input.

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Do you run or do other vigorous "jumping" exercises?? Running ALWAYS shakes up my tummy...

Also, I throw about a tablespoon of Hemp Seeds onto my yogurt in the morning - I've never been more regular. hehehe. I'd imagine you can get them at a health food store (I got it for Christmas...).

Good luck.

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It sure sounds like you are doing the right things. Do you eat much cheese? or other dairy products? I have heard of dairy products causing constipation in some people (in some people it causes the opposite).
Are you getting plenty of exercise? That usually helps too.

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Sorry about the topic heading but I need some help with this. I was diagnosed last February of 2008 and I also have a under active thyroid which is a double Whammy. I have been trying really hard to stick with the GF diet but I find that with having 2 auto immune disorders that I get constipated really easy. I have been drinking psyllium husk with cranberry juice every morning/night. I drink 8+ glasses of water per day, eat fruits/veggies everyday. I eat yogurt with probiotics in it. I don't know what to do any more. I have had to resort to enema's to help releive the pain and discomfort. My Dr. thinks its all in my head...I have also started eating prunes but nothing. I ate a whole bag of prunes and nothing. Does anyone have any other suggestions..HELP!!!

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