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2/17/11 10:45 A

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My letter to the CEM editor will appear in a future article of CEM.
Here is my letter in response to their article on SOY:

Message: What kind of an article on soy was that? He say, she says.... anyone can Google up some "studies" on soy. FYI, Brendan Brazier does NOT advocate eating soy because of the GMO and phytoestrogen properties... Also, Asian cultures eat soy as a condiment not chunks of TOFU in stir frys. They eat soy in fermented form. Foods like Tempeh and Miso. Also, soy IS a phytoestrogen and should be avoided by anyone with thyroid issues. Your article was wishy-washy to say the least. I'm sure that your readers are still in the DARK about the TRUTH about soy and soy products. Soy IS one of the TOP 5 GMO crops in the world. If you eat soy, it is MOST LIKELY a "round-up ready" soy bean you are eating. Nice, eh?

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2/6/11 4:21 P

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Yeah. Brendan Brazier is a RAW food guy and a vegan. His website definitely says that he avoids soy and there is no soy, gluten, wheat, eggs, dairy or nuts in ANY of his products.
CEM on the other hand, made a point of making him "sound like" he approved of soy.... Hid VEGA product also has a full page color ad on the inside of the front page of the magazine.
But, I think because a lot of people look up to Brendan, is why the article sort of sounds a little twisted... I'm not renewing my subscription to CEM when it comes due.
For other reasons also, like I can'tt eat gluten, and I won't eat soy too...

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2/6/11 4:03 P

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Soy's a big one, for every peer reviewed article you get saying it's bad you get another saying it's good. There's no definitive verdict out there.

Brendan Brazier is he a raw food guy? I read his thrive book, they are not into soy or gluten so I can definitely see him being anti-soy

Having said that, I'm not a big fan of unfermented soy products (thought I do use the occasional Mexican grounds to make killer nachos) and would discourage someone from buying any kind of non organic soy, my husband won't listen to me but he doesn't make tofu that often. I don't think soy is the devil, I personally don't want the GMOs. For those of you that can tolerate gluten and you want a hearty tofu sub seiten is a good one.

Also, I totally agree with the OP, almond milk is so much yummier. You guys have to try 1/2 portion coconut milk (not the the thick kind the So Delicious kind) and 1/2 portion chocolate almond milk - it's divine!



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2/4/11 3:34 P

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I'm glad you started this thread. I have been frustrated lately with the amount of contradictory information we are bombarded with not just with soy but with all kinds of food and fitness topics.

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2/4/11 1:56 P

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Thanks SO much for this thread Laura and your fabulous writing skills combined with a good dose of personal research and a drop or two of cynicism! Wow, you totally amaze me! You could start your OWN magazine with your knowledge of fitness and nutrition. Not to mention your artistic talent!

BTW, tofu is certainly NOT a whole food. I have made tofu myself and know how you have to pull it apart to come up with the finished product.

BASICALLY:
Soak the beans
Grind the beans with water
Press out the water which is now white and put the ground beans aside or throw into the compost.
Add a coagulant to the water (sort of like cheese making)
Let it turn into curds
Press it into a firm block.
Not much of the original bean left in that stuff
But you can use the ground up beans that are left over if you want (okara)
Thanks again Laura, you rock!


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2/4/11 10:51 A

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I am not a magazine subscriber but I get the jist of it from what you posted. I hate contradicting articles. So many people think that soy is the end all/be all. I saw a woman putting a ton of soy milk in her cart the other day at the grocery store telling her daughter it is sooooo much better for her than milk. I wanted to point her in the direction of hazelnut milk or almond milk. But none of my business, I guess. I don't buy soy products (minus unfermented, and that is normally soy sauce that I just use in my stir fries). I love my almond milk and my new favorite is hazelnut milk. I see so many women here on SP who complain about PCOS and I feel obligated to tell them to cut the soy products. Most just don't know. They think they're consuming something healthy. The whole GMO issue is big. One can pretty much gurantee that unless they're eating organic than it is Round Up Ready soy products that they're consuming.

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2/4/11 9:50 A

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I have the magazine, but have not read the article yet. It just drives me crazy how you never know who you can trust with these issues. I will check out the article tonight.

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2/4/11 9:35 A

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Clean Eating Magazine recently came out with their article on soy. (Feb. 2011) Dissapointing to say the least.
The article is wishy-washy; they don't really tell us any useful information. Lots of "studies" are cited and of course, the FDA's findings. It also states many misinformations and contradictions. I think they are just trying to appeal to everybody.
Wouldn't want to leave any potential subscriber out in the cold, eh?
They do a lot of, "Brendan Brazier says this... Brendan Brazier says that". But if you go and look at Brendan's website, you can clearly read that Brendan Brazier avoids soy, because of concerns with GMO's and phytoestrogens. They do, however, cite Mr. Brazier as saying that Soy Protein Isolate is highly processed and should be avoided.
The article goes on to say that heart attack rates have been lowered in some women that consume soy, (which is actually true; but do the benefits actually outweigh the risks?) and that another study found that women with breast cancer who ate soy were more likely to have the cancer return. WHY, then, does their SISTER magazine, Oxygen, say it is "Ideal for all women!" (Feb. 2011, page 136)
They also have a chart at the end of the article. According to their chart, Soy has shown GOOD scientific evidence to be helpful in treating infants and young children with diarrhea. And, Strong evidence that it will help lower cholesterol and a good source of protein. The chart also says it's UNCLEAR about just about everything else in regards to benfefits/dissadavantages in regards to soy including menopausal symptoms and thyroid issues.
The article again, sidesteps any sort of direct conflict by saying, "GANS says that it's safe to consume two servings of soy a day in a whole food form such as soy nuts or tofu" but then turns around and says some more negative stuff about consuming too much soy.
According to another study that they cited, LARGE amounts of soy (anything over 25 grams daily) could disrupt fertility in men AND women, as well as cause disrupt normal developement in children. So, now I'm left feeling really confused... I thought they said it was OK to give children if they have diarrhea?
And HOW MUCH is too much, again?
They completely left out the fact that asian cultures use soy more as a condiment than an entire meal, and that fermented soy is also used. The article also left out the fact that soy is one of the world's largest GMO crops and that the "round-up ready" seeds are most likely in that soy product on the grocery shelves that consumers are ingesting.
Confusing article. CEM doesn't really give any USEFUL information on soy, nor does this article seem properly researched. I can GOOGLE up all kinds of "facts and studies" too and write an article.

Did anyone else read this article? What was your take on it?

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