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2/23/10 2:18 P

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It makes me wonder how long before they find even these are not good for us.

I noticed in the Spark Daily messages that Blue Agave is not as good as I thought it to be. Just because you think it is nature doesn't make it good.

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2/23/10 11:44 A

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I think it depends on the brand. When it first came out, I bought some (don't remember the name but it was in a dark green box) and it was bitter and didn't dissolve well. I now use Truvia and I find it really reminds me of real sugar. It is crystallized like it and tastes very good. To each their own, I guess, but I recommend it! :)

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2/23/10 10:27 A

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I'm also getting used to stevia. Changed over to using it in my coffee & iced tea. I was a hardcore nutra sweet user until my dh heard somewhere about it causing joint paint - which I was experiencing! It's been about 4 months now. Funny how my knees don't ache anymore. (Plus I've been working out more) But still.

Oh! And my how food taste so much better! Fruit itself - I can now appreciate it's sweetness. I was sweetening things that shouldn't be, now I don't.

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2/23/10 10:26 A

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My Dad likes Truvia, so I bought some of it and I tried it...so far, I like the subtle sweetness it gives my coffee in the morning. I don't drink a lot of "stuff" mainly water, but I would use this in iced tea, too. Just a little bit, though. Too much probably would taste whangy...

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I am definitely not a fan of Stevia, but I am getting used to it. I didn't know about the digestive issues caused by Splenda, but since I have recently stopped using it and switched to Stevia, I guess I have been noticing a little less bloat! Cool!
I haven't tried Xylitol yet... I'll have to give that a shot.

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Wasn't intentional, and had you not realized, it would have gone competely unnoticed by me! :-)

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lol, that is pretty cool!

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Good to know! A friend of mine was being treated for a serious cancer and his MD said the only sugar he should ingest is xylitol.
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I like it! It's a LOT better than the Stevia, IMHO. Even though I now have Stevia AND agave nectar, I'll probably be searching out Xylitol the nex time I'm in the store.

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NancyAnne55 - Was wondering if you ever tried the Xylitol sample you recd at the health food store, what was your opinion of the taste?

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2/7/10 3:53 P

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I love Truvia, and I do not find it bitter. I use it on grapefruit, and I add it to canned pumpkin along with cinnamon for a pumpkin pie like taste. I do not know if it counts as eating clean, but as a no calorie sweetener it works well for me.

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I had the same digestive troubles with Splenda. Glad that I no longer use that. I never really realized it until after I had switched to Truvia. Although this Sweet Leaf thing has me intrigued.

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Bec, I am liking the SweetLeaf brand too, now that I've had a chance to use it. I'm still wondering if it's non-chemical.

Interesting about the Splenda, Nikegirl. I haven't had any problems with it. It's just that it's chemical, so if I can find a cleaner alternative out there, I'm taking it!

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2/6/10 11:15 A

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Thank you SteelMagnolia10, I purchased the Sun Crystals yesterday & much better, no bitterness that I had experienced w/ Purevia. Great suggestion!

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I also like the Sweetleaf brand. I tried the NOW brand first and threw it out b/c it tasted so bitter to me. I don't get an aftertaste with Sweetleaf, but that may just be me. I rarely use it to sweeten beverages, but every now and then I'll use it in tea or to balance the tartness of frozen cranberries in my oatmeal. I guess my point is that not all brands are created equally - you may have to sample some different ones to find one that you like.

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2/4/10 1:55 P

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NancyAnne55, I am with you, girl...I cannot stomach the Stevia - it's pretty gross, to be blunt...I love agave nectar; that rocks...I have tried Xylitol and it is not bad, but I need to use a lot (I like my tea and coffee sweet)...I have to admit, I went back to Equal as my OB/GYN told me that our bodies cannot digest Splenda...I was having MAJOR gas issues and she attributed it to the Splenda; after I stopped, so did the issues.

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Hi all, Oddly enough more of my illegal contraband arrived in the post this morning.
This time it was the Steviva brand powder. IMO It has less after taste than the Swanson liquid. I think I could have this in my coffee without sugar.

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I just bought some liquid Stevia yesterday. It's made by my local organic grocery store (Sprouts for those you living in California, Arizona, Colorado, or Texas), but it was cheaper than any national brand. It says use 2-5 drops, so I put 2 drops in my coffee this morning. I didn't notice any bitterness, but I do think it tasted a little funky in the way Splenda does. Maybe the bitterness comes from using too much. I mean, 2 drops of Stevia is practically nothing. At least it reminded me that I actually don't like sweetener in my coffee at all!

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I use the SweetLeaf Stevia extract for tea, herbal tea and a tiny bit for steel cut oats. Of course the agave is WAY better! I can't use the agave all the time with all those calories. I just got used to the stevia taste like anything else I have changed in my diet, like going from 2% milk to 1% or fat free. I have been using it for a while.

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Yeah, Aniduck, I totally get what you are saying about big biz running big bro. He who pays the most gets his way.....

Anyhow, back to Stevia talk....

The stuff I bought is powdered, white and requires only 1/40th a teaspoon (yes, you read that right) for the sweetness of one teaspoon. If I get more than a smidge in there, it's bitter city! Blech! Less than a smidge and I can't really taste much sweetness.

I licked the inside of the foil safety-cover thing when I took it off of the agave nectar and..... yummy! Of course, we have that 60/kcal a Tablespoon issue going on with it.....

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I haven't tried it in coffee, but am using locally produced honey to sweeten my oatmeal and yogurt.

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Don't really know if Truvia is any better or worse than any other stevia-type sweetener but I won't buy Truvia mainly because it is made by Cargill and CocaCola. I find it both maddening and somewhat unethical that the USDA refused for years to approve stevia because of the push-back from the sugar industry. But as soon as CocaCola saw that it was becoming popular and that this might be another lucrative marketing tool for the diet-conscious crowd (us! lol) all of a sudden, abracadabra, it was approved by the feds. Ya think big business is running the government? Ya think? And now, there are a zillion stevia products on the market most of which I'm sure are highly refined junk.
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That is so weird! I certainly wouldn't like it if it tasted bitter. What about Truvia? Is that clean? I've had it before and it tasted really good.

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I had some Stevia arrive last week. It cannot be sold here (UK) as a food supplement. So it is sold as "not for human consumption". Buying such a product via ebay seemed a bit dodgy, but the shop did also have a normal website too. I used eBay so I could pay via PayPal.

I ordered both the powder (not arrived yet) and one in a liquid dropper "vegetable glycerine and de-ionized water".

I initially though it has an aftertaste like saccharin but milder.

On its own I thought it tastes horrible in tea/coffee, but I have 1/2 teaspoon of sugar and its not too bad. Still I should probably cut that out altogether.

Apparently the more refined form (Stevioside / pure white?) is supposed to be less bitter than the green/yellow one - which has other compounds in it.
But I also read studies where a lot of the seemingly magical properties of stevia (regarding obesity, BP , diabetes etc) seem to be attributed to either the whole leaf and not the pure white powder?

Interesting that people have still experienced blood sugar issues.

For anyone in the UK I ordered 'Swanson' brand, in the liquid dropper.

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Little note to STEELMAGNOLIA10 and anyone else who doesn't know:
The terms "natural" or "all natural" have absolutely no regulations keeping them truthful. Any manufacturer can put those terms on their product and it really doesn't mean anything. Always read the ingredient labels and even then, you might want to do a little research to figure out what it is you are eating.

This is just Aunty Duck giving out unsolicited information...Quack!

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I think you will enjoy Whole Foods Ellie, I am lucky to have one in the town I live in, you can find some great things, Enjoy your shopping trip!

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The only negative thing I have read about Xylitol is if you eat too much you can have...er...runny...uh...poo poo. I don't know how much you have to eat to have that happen. I chew a gum that is sweetened with it but I don't chew it every day.

There are a lot of stevia products out there. And yes, if it's just pure stevia it's going to have an aftertaste that is weird. When added to baked things it can add nice sweetness and it doesn't have that weirdness. I don't know if there is even a "natural" form of stevia out there except perhaps a liquid extract--everything is so refined and over-processed. You just have to research to figure out what works for you. I don't eat many sweet things, I never sweeten my coffee (just milk) so I don't mind putting a bit of Stevia Blend (a blend of Erythritol and Stevia) in some things. I just made a barbecue sauce today for ribs and I put a bit of that and some molasses into it. It's VERY tasty!

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Has anyone tried Sun Crystals? Its stevia and pure cane sugar.Says its all natural sweetener 5 calories. Is that not good cause I use it in my shakes and coffee and no spike to my sugar levels as I am diabetic. Says its safe for diabetics. Well I find it satisfying and no after taste. I have tried Truvia too and not bad.

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I am so excited I am going to Whole Foods tomorrow for the first time. It is an hour away from us.

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Thank you for all the suggestions & tips, I am going to head to Traders Joe's tomorrow & see what I can find, I have never been there before, I usually go to Whole Foods for a few of the the things I can't find at the regular grocery store, I heard Trader Joe's prices were a little better. I have teenage son's who eat a lot, so I need to save where I can

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I can't drink stevia in coffee and tea, but a little bit is ok with protein shakes. I use approx 1 tsp.in coffee and that has been enough for me. Not as many calories.

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Okay, now this is interesting. I'd heard agave wasn't supposed to affect blood sugar.

The Stevia brand I purchased ws SweetLeaf. I just got the smallest jar possible, and it was $8. The bottle says it has not been dilluted with any fillers. It appears the only ingredient is Stevia.

The Agave I got is Madhava brand. It is supposed to have a mild taste (no idea what that means since I've never tried it before). And yes, 60 calories a tablespoon, which is higher than the 48 calories in table sugar.

The lady in the health food store gave me samples of something called Xylo Sweet. Made from Xylitol. It's not supposed to have an after taste and is supposed to have no affect on blood sugar. No idea if this is highly chemical or not.

I just want to find a natural sweetner for my oatmeal and smoothies, and all we seem to have now is more questions. LOL!

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i havent tried stevia on its own but my protein powder is sweetened with it and i quite like the taste of my protein powder. for a general sugar replacer (granted it does have calories) aside from stevia Tosca also reccomends sucanat(unprocessed sugar cane), which isnt as sweet as processed sugar but is still fairly good.

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I just recently bought the agave nectar also. Had some in a cup of coffee before bed and when I checked my blood sugar next morning as I have diabetes, it was sky high. Interesting impact.

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Ok I bought some also, Stevia Extract, Herbal Select in packets.

I have used it twice. I used it on some fruit to try and in some baking. It has such an after taste that I don't like. I was wondering if there was something better also.

There is also more than one Agave Nectar.
Mine is Wholesome Organic Blue Agave in small letters it says light. It says l l/4 times as sweet as sugar. I was also looking for something with less calories this has 60 for l tbsp.

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I have heard that it's not so good in coffee and stuff, but it's good for baking. I can't say from experience, but I do plan on buying some soon and trying it in a cookie recipe. Maybe I'll see if I hate it in coffee, too.

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So funny, I was just searching the web about Stevia being bitter, I am trying to eat clean, so I brought my big box of Splenda packets into the cafeteria in work, all ready to embrace my new Stevia packets & I had trouble drinking my tea & coffee w/ the Stevia in it, I wasn't sure if it was me. I purchased Purevia brand Stevia, I am wondering if the Truvia tastes any better, the one thing I can't seem to give up is sweetening my coffee & tea, any suggestions on a better brand?

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Cant do Stevia. :( I just can't handle the bitterness.

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Okay, so I hear all this stuff about Stevia- how it's not chemical, how it's better for you than sugar, how you don't need much. So I get some. And I use it.

I hate it.

It's bitter.

But at least it was expensive.

Is there some trick with Stevia I'm not understanding? I use a tiny bit. Are there things it should and should not be used for? Wondering if I'm putting it in the wrong stuff (tea, oatmeal, protein shakes).

I gave up and went and got Agave necter. It has calories, but I've heard it tastes better and is still natural.

Opinions? Ideas?

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