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4/27/08 6:56 P

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I use canola oil as an alternative to olive oil. I have never really like the taste of olive oil (even on salads) and found that canola oil is much lighter in fats than vegetable oil, has a light taste and can withstand high cooking temps. I used to use butter sparingly when I cooked, but I eliminated it once I "discovered" canola.

For those that can't stand egg whites only omelets, I usually use one whole egg and then 2 or 3 egg whites. I also like to add just the boiled whites to my tuna for extra protein power!!

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4/26/08 9:20 P

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Cheriebabe, Thanks, I could not remember where I had read that you needed the white and the yolk, now I remember it was on Mercola. I agree it is a great site. I enjoy reading all the posts people make after his articles.

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I agree...never eat raw eggs.

I do, however, feel that eating cooked egg whites without the yolk is just fine.

Thanks for the info! Ewww...who eats raw egg whites? emoticon

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4/26/08 9:34 A

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Just came across this info on Dr Mercola website about eating eggwhites raw."If youre in the habit of only eating the egg white,be aware that controlled diets of only eating RAW egg whites can lead to severe Biotin deficiency.Why?Because when you consume egg whites alone without the yolk,a component in them binds to the B-Vitamin Biotin,potentially creating a deficiency in your body.He also says that 23% of caged hens eggs tested positive for salmonella.You can google in Dr Mercola as this is a great website with amazing info on health topics.

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4/26/08 9:13 A

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Thanks everyone for your responses to my original question! I knew about the smoke point of olive oil, but had never heard anyone recommend butter as a healthier replacement.

What I didn't mention is that this same person told them not to eat grains (at all) for three weeks to "cleanse" their bodies and also told them not to do any strength training until after their bodies were cleansed (so the lactic acid wouldn't screw up the cleansing process, according to him). They paid this guy a LOT of money for his "system." You can probably see why I was so skeptical. Anyhow, they are past their 3 weeks and are back to eating they way they used to, so...there you go.

Thanks again for your responses! As always, I learn a lot from you all!
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4/25/08 10:54 A

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I was thinking the same thing UrbanMommy. Bodybuilders and fitness competitors eat many, many egg whites to get quality protein and they seem to metabolize it just fine. Thanks for pointing that out!

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I've heard the same about olive oil: cook it at lower temperatures. Flaxseed oil should NEVER be heated. As far as using butter, well, I know it's natural and all, but the saturated fats concern me. I would use it very sparingly.

And the eggs? I LOVE EGGS!! From my own research and experience, eggs are a perfect food and can be eaten several times a week. For my pre-contest diet, I consume close to a dozen egg whites a day. I would never want to include that many yolks,however. It's the protein I need, not the fat and carbs. As far as the metabolism of the egg being better with the yolk? Tell that to all the bodybuilders who have eaten egg whites alone for years. Their results prove that the protein can be broken down just fine by itself w/o the yolk.

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4/24/08 10:01 P

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Wow... that is so surprising. I am in shock.

Supposedly, according to our government (take that for what it is worth), Splenda is considered safe for children and pregnant women... but, that is not the case for nutrasweet or saccharin. Like I said, this is according to the FDA, but they also allow trans fats in our foods and growth hormones and HFCS... so, it's hard to take stock in it.

And from personal experience... back in the 80's I was drinking a lot of diet soda and I noticed I had these bumps inside my earlobes. It was weird and somebody said, stop drinking the diet soda. I did and those bumps went away.



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4/24/08 9:47 P

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Sparle2008, Believe it or not she was a registered dietitian who works at the local hospital. I am still shocked she would say that artificial sweeteners are ok for kids to use. I know someone who was using so much that she started to have heart palpitations and went to the hospital and they made her stop using them and now she is fine. Someone else I know suddenly went blind when driving (how scary is that) and is now legally blind, and the first thing they asked was if he used artificial sweeters. These were both adults, I can't imagine the damage it could do to a young child.

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4/24/08 1:57 P

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One thing we all need to be aware of:

Anybody and I mean ANYBODY can hang a shingle and call themselves a nutritionist. Sad, but true.

If you want good, solid nutrition advice based in science the experts are Registered Dietitians. They are required to have a minimum of a 4 year degree in nutrition with 900 or more hours of practicum experience and then they sit for a credentialing exam (much the way a lawyer must sit for the bar exam).

So, maybe the person you saw did not have the proper background. Probably a good thing you did leave.


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4/24/08 12:52 P

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I am new to this group, this is my first post, I have been reading and learning from the previous posts, I just got my book and ordered the magazine.

I have heard in the past, not sure where though because I tend to read a lot of medical type stuff, that you do need both the white of the egg and the yolk because of the enzymes.

As far as nutritionists go, I went to a group nutrition talk and when one of the people asked the nutritionist if it was safe to give kids aspartame or splenda and she said "yes", I figured she was not very good, and I left. So I would take what they say and then do my own research in order to make an informed decision that was in my best interest.

Have a great day!

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Interesting topic..I have also heard that it is okay to eat four eggs per week. Eggs are very nutritious, but I am not sure about the enzyme thing. I would do my own research before eating anymore than the recommended weekly amount.

I have heard of the olive oil and butter thing though.

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4/24/08 3:27 A

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We have several varieties of free range and hormone free eggs available where I shop. In Florida pasteurized eggs are available in some stores. That kills salmonella bacteria and makes it possible to eat eggs over easy or to use the egg whites not fully cooked in meringue.

Growth hormone is given to animals to increase the speed at which they are ready to market (slaughter) and to increase egg production in chickens and milk production in cows. One study linked early sexual development in children to growth hormone in chicken in Puerto Rico. I saw that on a show on PBS. Perhaps our being overweight is from growth hormone in animals. I buy organic hormone free milk and try to eat very little meat. It is available without hormones in some stores, Whole Foods for one, but it costs much more.

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4/22/08 3:20 P

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What could the hormones do to you?? Are eggs something to be avoided if you don't have access to a more natural egg?


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I eat the whole egg, but no more than several times a week. As mentioned earlier on this thread egg yolks are very high in nutrition. Egg yolks also contain lecithin a natural emulsifier. Studies show that soy-derived lecithin has significant effects on lowering cholesterol and triglyceride, while increasing HDL ("good cholesterol") levels in the blood. I would reason that the lecithin in eggs might counteract the egg cholesterol in the same way. My information is from the wikipedia on lecithin.



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4/18/08 9:22 A

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Im studying to be a nutritionist and agree fully with the facts on olive oil only to have cold and butter is actually full of goodness especially Vitamin A just not too much.Ghee is one of the better oils to cook in as it heats to a very high temp and is full of goodness but same as butter,not too much.God made yolks inside eggs for a reason not just to make chickens,I think we need to use a bit of common sense.I have my own healthy hens but would never touch those in the supermarket as they are full of hormones,even the whites girls.

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4/18/08 2:01 A

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Those are new ideas to me too. I am not buying into it. There is so much out there that says olive oil is better for you than butter. I am not sure about the nutrient factor change with heated, but I know that olive oil can not sustain very high heat and will begin to smoke. That is why tey suggest canola oil for higher heats.


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4/17/08 9:21 P

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These are the guidelines of the American Heart Assocation. Of course, don't forget that this 4 yolk guideline includes any food that may have eggs in it already. It's not nuts, it's based in science.

The other thing to keep in mind is that it what you really want to keep low is your intake of saturated fat. That's what really pumps up your cholesterol (besides genetics, that is).


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I eat about one real egg every week to week and a half, but I wouldn't eat 4 a week. If you're eating other things with cholesterol, I think that'd be nuts to add in several eggs a week. I've been eating low cholesterol anyway because I figure if I'm trying to eat everything else healthy, I'd just assume try and keep my cholesterol intake low too.

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4/17/08 9:08 P

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I haven't heard those things either. I cannot eat just egg white -- it gags me -- I cannot get past the texture. Somehow to me, a whole boiled egg is just easier and better tasting. If I have to choke it down it just isn't worth it!

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The American Heart Association says it is o.k. to eat up to 4 egg yolks per week (even when you have high cholesterol). I had recently heard news (and need to verify) that an egg a day (the whole thing) is o.k. for you. Looking into that one, as I'm not sure what or who the source of this information is from.

As far as olive oil goes. It does oxidize when it is heated too high. There are oils out there that can be used at higher cooking temperatures (like peanut oil ~ can't imagine cooking eggs in that though). Butter does not oxidize at a higher cooking temperature like olive oil does (although it will burn if it gets too hot), BUT it is mostly saturated fat and that means it clogs your arteries. I mean anyone who has cooked something in butter can plainly see butter coagulates in the pan once the pan has cooled. Imagine that in your arteries. Ick!

I don't know about this enzyme that is in egg yolks, but I do know that the fat content of eggs is in the yolk as well as iron, vitamin A, vitamin E, and of course, cholesterol.


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The yolk of the egg has the vitamins in it - whites don't. If you have a cholesterol problem though, you don't want to be a whole egg eater. If you're looking for protein, you can still eat the egg whites.

I use Pam and a non-stick pan. Olive oil isn't meant for high temperature cooking, so if you cook on too high a temp it will burn.

I've been too a nutritionist too - I made sure she was a registered dietician. There are all different kinds of out there. I'm surprised anyone is promoting butter, although it's better than margarine from what I've been told. I don't use butter at all now. But a good dietician will help you with your goals and what works with your body, but there are specialty nutritionists out there who do holistic eating or certain areas.

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Strange about the eggs...will be an interesting discussion!

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I heard a little butter & a little olive oil. I also heard, not to heat olive oil. I do at just a low temp. if it smokes at all its ruined. Holly I always heard to eat the egg and yolk!, thats how God made it!

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Interesting.....my sister swears the minute you heat olive oil it loses it nutritional value and that it should only be used on food that are not cooked! She always tells m butter is better for making eggs! I am not sure where she got her info but ii is an ongoing argument with us!! Would like to see what others say!

But I have to tell you...I never heard the other part about eggs...I am sure you will get some good answers though!!



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4/17/08 10:06 A

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OK, so my sister-in-law and her husband went to a nutritionist (so they called him) who put them on a 3-week detox diet. The detox aspect aside, this person told them that it is healthier to cook with butter than olive oil (but that olive oil is better for salads or other instances where you are not cooking). He also told them that it is pointless to eat egg whites without the yolks, because the yolk has an enzyme that is required by the body to absorb the protein in the egg white.

Now, everything that I've ever read contradicts both of those things, and I feel like they've been duped by this person. I'm just wondering if anyone has ever heard those statements before?

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