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3/5/10 10:25 A

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Wow--I think the first open water swim is the same day as the DC tri. That doesn't help you much...

They also have a beginner's tri group, where there will be an open water swim, geared more towards newbies. But I don't know if that date's even been planned yet, let alone whether it will work for you.

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3/5/10 10:23 A

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I think you are right on target.

Also, the Baltimore Area Tri Club has open water swims, about once a month. I'm not sure if they start in May or June. They are open to non-club members as well. Here's a link to the website:

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2/21/10 6:34 P

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I went with the DC Tri.

The DC Tri is on June 20th.
THe Zooma Half MArathon & 10K is on June 6th.

A few of the ladies from my running group are doing the Zooma Half Marathon. Seeing that the HM is two weeks before my tri, I opted not to do it because I was worried my body wouldn't be fully recovered for the tri. I thought about the 10K but I think just doing my club's weekly 10K run would be easier because its not a "race". I already have a half marathon on May 2nd that I am registered and currently training for.

I felt guilty for saying no but I wanted to make sure my body was rested. Am I right for taking such a conservative approach?


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-stay consistent in my workouts
-strengthen my recently broken ankle

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-completed a 10 miler, 10K and a half marathon
-sorry my year ended in Maym 2 weeks after my half marathon when I crash on my bike shattering my ankle. I had surgery and ortho put in 8 screws and a plate.



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2/4/10 11:20 A

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Here is the race official answer to my questions about time, temp and wetsuits. I put my questions right above the answers they gave me.

1. Question: What is the average temp on race day?

ANSWER: The water temperature will be around 70 degrees.

2. Question: Will it be wetsuit legal on race day?

ANSWER: We anticipate that it will be wetsuit legal, but won't know for sure until we test the water on race morning.

3. Question: Swim waves start at 5:30 and the course closes at 11am. If I swim at 8am and my friend swim wave is at 6, would it mean I get 3 hours and she gets 5 hours? Is that correct?

ANSWER: Yes, that is correct. The first sprint wave goes off at 5:30, the first Olympic wave at approximately 6:30, the race will be small, so the last wave should be in the water around 7:30, giving the last person 4:30 hours to finish the Olympic race.

Lovey



2013 Goals:
- lose 50lbs
-stay consistent in my workouts
-strengthen my recently broken ankle

2012 Accomplishments:
-cosistent training after healing from a stress fracture in my foot
-completed a 10 miler, 10K and a half marathon
-sorry my year ended in Maym 2 weeks after my half marathon when I crash on my bike shattering my ankle. I had surgery and ortho put in 8 screws and a plate.



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2/4/10 10:45 A

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Lovey, can you give me an idea of how cold the water is for the inaugural race date? I am in Florida and have no idea - i assume this is a wetsuit race. That is something I will need to learn about and practice!

Thanks, Beth

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TDSLOVEY's Photo TDSLOVEY Posts: 1,192
2/4/10 9:22 A

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I am less than an hour by car but I would take the train on race day.

I am a member of a local tri club so I will be doing open water swims with them. Funny thing the DC Tri is our biggest rival. My club has a mentorship (I signed up) for people doing various tris. The DC Tri club mentorship has the DC Tri as the goal rest.

If I can't do my club's open water swim due to schedule, I will ask the DC TRi if I can join them if they fit my schedule.

I sen a question to the triathlon oranizers about the time. Swim waves start at 5:30 and the course closes at 11am. If I swim at 8am and my friend swim wave is at 6, would it mean I get 3 hours and she gets 5 hours? I am waiting for a response since the website didn't have an answer.

Lovey

2013 Goals:
- lose 50lbs
-stay consistent in my workouts
-strengthen my recently broken ankle

2012 Accomplishments:
-cosistent training after healing from a stress fracture in my foot
-completed a 10 miler, 10K and a half marathon
-sorry my year ended in Maym 2 weeks after my half marathon when I crash on my bike shattering my ankle. I had surgery and ortho put in 8 screws and a plate.



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2/4/10 6:58 A

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Lovey,

You don't need to train in the open water, just train in the pool and do a couple of open water swims. Grab another person, and get to an open body of water, so you can practice sighting. That said, I'm horrible at keeping a straight line when I'm the only one swimming, but I did fine when I was with a whole wave of people... My advice is "follow the bubbles". It totally worked for me.

Another option - If DC isn't too far away, the DC triathlon had several links to their tri clubs and might be open to a non-member joining them for an open water practice. I'm guessing that they'd offer you plenty of local, experienced tips too.

6/7/09 Great South Bay Sprint Triathlon (750m, 11mi, 5k), 1:43:45
6/20/09 Diamond Dash for a Cure 5k, 32:45
7/5/09 Independence Triathlon (500m, 8mi, 5k), 1:12:30
11/15/09 Damon Runyon 5k Yankee Stadium, 39:44


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2/3/10 10:43 P

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Both events are inaugural but Celebration doesn't really feel like it because its the same as Iron Girl. The men probably complained there no sprint in the area that they could do so they created one.

Time limits:

Celebration Sprint has the same rules as Iron Girl.
SWIM: 1 hour from the start of your wave.
TOTAL (Time to complete the triathlon): 4 hours, 30 minutes from the start of your wave.

DC Triathlon:
1.The first swim wave starts at 5:30 AM. Swim waves and times will be released approximately one week before the race.
4.Course closes promptly at 11:00 AM.

They didn't give specific times for the DC Tri. Here are my suggestions. Taking extreme exhaustion and fatique into account, I will allow 1:00 to 1:15 to finish the flat 12.5 miles bike course and an hour for the run. If my wave starts no later than 8am, I will have an hour for the swim.

I am still giving the nod to the DC Tri for the shorter swim and fresh approach.

P.S. If Celebration is run like Iron Girl, there will be a practice swim 3 to 4 weeks before the race.
The DC Tri practice swim is the DAY BEFORE the race!! I don't get that. I would have to do a lot of open water swim with my tri club. Maybe I can squeeze into the practice swim of the other one...hmm.

Lovey

Edited by: TDSLOVEY at: 2/3/2010 (23:06)
2013 Goals:
- lose 50lbs
-stay consistent in my workouts
-strengthen my recently broken ankle

2012 Accomplishments:
-cosistent training after healing from a stress fracture in my foot
-completed a 10 miler, 10K and a half marathon
-sorry my year ended in Maym 2 weeks after my half marathon when I crash on my bike shattering my ankle. I had surgery and ortho put in 8 screws and a plate.



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2/1/10 12:50 P

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I'm with everyone else. DC Tri. As DRC's a local, I defer to her...

You are swim limited so at least the shorter swim will let you get to the bike-run bits. There's no point in signing up for a "tune-up" race and have the worry that you'll be pulled before even getting on the bike.



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I vote the DC tri as well. Sounds like it would be better for you in the fun departement and the confindence as well. Good luck.

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2/1/10 9:37 A

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I vote for the DC tri as well. You can continue to train on Columbia's course, and you know there are some training opportunities that will let you get on the course. The DC one will let you boost your confidence--which I think is a very important part of training! The river swim will mean that you are going with the current, so even if you have to rest during the swim, you'll still have some forward motion.

Besides, it's an inaugural event--that doesn't happen very often!

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2/1/10 6:51 A

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Lovey,
I think what's great about triathlons is that there are so many different experiences out there - and the other great thing, is that you can see your improvement from year to year. Since you'd be doing the same course with only 2 months apart, you may not see much improvement, and the only difference will be the competition. So I vote you do the DC one.

BUT - Since the swim time is your biggest obstacle, I would check if either race has a swim deadline, and go with the one that has the easier pace, so you can be sure to get that finisher's medal.

Good luck with your decision, and let us know!

6/7/09 Great South Bay Sprint Triathlon (750m, 11mi, 5k), 1:43:45
6/20/09 Diamond Dash for a Cure 5k, 32:45
7/5/09 Independence Triathlon (500m, 8mi, 5k), 1:12:30
11/15/09 Damon Runyon 5k Yankee Stadium, 39:44


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I have my major triathlon, Iron Girl Women's Sprint on August 22nd. Its a .62 mile swim (1100 yds), 17.5 mile bike and 3.4 mile run. Its longer tham most sprint. My first attempt last year was a DNF because I exceeded the swim time limit with 200 yards to go. Race officials felt I was too exhausted and a safety liability to allow me to finish.

I plan to do a sprint in June or July to help boost my confidence. I had 4 to choose from but eliminated two because I would have to overnight it or drive 2 to 3 hours to get there the morning of the race. Now I am left with two:

The Celebration Sprint on June 27th - Its a .62 mile swim (1100 yds), 17.5 mile bike and 3.4 mile run. Its the same race directors and exact course as Iron Girl except that this race is coed.
This is a lake swim with both hilly bike and run courses.

The new INAUGURAL Washington DC Triathlon on June 20th. - .8k swim, 20k bike and 6.7k run.
In miles that's .50 mile swim, 12.4 mile bike and 4.2 mile run. This race is organized by the same group who organize the very big and very popular Nations Triathlon. The swim and bike are a little shorter but the run is longer. This is a river swim, flat bike course with 180' turns and run course that's supposed to be mostly flat but has two steep climbs.

Would it be better to do a race (Celebration) on the same course as the one I will be doing?

Would it be better to try a different race (DC Tri) for a fresh start?

Does it matter or am I just freaking out?
I was waiting for the new tri details before I made my decision.

Lovey

2013 Goals:
- lose 50lbs
-stay consistent in my workouts
-strengthen my recently broken ankle

2012 Accomplishments:
-cosistent training after healing from a stress fracture in my foot
-completed a 10 miler, 10K and a half marathon
-sorry my year ended in Maym 2 weeks after my half marathon when I crash on my bike shattering my ankle. I had surgery and ortho put in 8 screws and a plate.



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