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AQUAJANE
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9/19/09 9:20 P

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I don't want to be disagreeable, but I disagree somewhat with Deb about the vinegar and lemon juice. I don't think it has the enzymes that break up the odor-producing molecules in poop and pee. Though the acid in both can help clean up the mess (vinegar's my favorite "green" cleanser), the acetic and citric acids can also harm some fabrics. Plus, some dogs with sensitive noses might be able to smell through the lemon mask. That's why I buy the enzymatic cleansers for this task.



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9/19/09 8:11 P

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So glad...we love our poodles, doodles and cockapoos! Kelly

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9/17/09 9:29 P

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I wanted to say that I've read a lot of good things on this team's site. Glad I joined.

Edited by: ROSE251 at: 9/17/2009 (21:31)
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Thanks for the tip about the vinegar and lemon. Also the "potty" pad, I had wondered about that. Kelly, thanks for your info. We haven't rubbed Scooter's nose in his poop but I have thought of it, it is a training tool we used years ago. Where it came from I don't know. Today was another good day, and when I say good, I mean he did not do anything in the house. He has been his same sweet self and we are making it a point to pay more attention to him. I want to buy the kennel but my husband is very against it. He thinks it's cruel but I don't. My dtr has one for her 2 dogs, it's a big cage and they're small so they both go in there. Not sure what she says but they go right in. Thanks to everyone for the helpful advice.
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9/17/09 1:14 P

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I definitely agree about them smelling the spot and going back to the same one. You could even try putting papers or a "potty pad" down in that spot AFTER you clean it just in case...just a suggestion.


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9/17/09 11:51 A

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Deb, That's a fantastic idea about the vinegar and lemon juice! We use a spray cleaner with enzymes in it, but I have never felt great about using it. I would feel much better about using the vinegar and lemon.


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9/17/09 9:22 A

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And Kathy...NEVER rub scooter's nose in his feces. That is NOT a deterent. Something that people in the 60's or so came up with, but it's not a training tool.

I agree with the other ladies...enzymatic cleaner needs to be used to clean the area. And remember, Scooter is still relatively young. Snickers has dumped a well placed turd in the house on occasion and she's almost 5 years old, but if he's going back to the same place, that has become his bathroom of choice. So sorry you're having to deal with this.

Kennels aren't a bad thing at all really and they can be used as an excellent training tool. He won't like it at first, believe me. Use small treats to train him to enter the kennel while at the same time saying "kennel" and praise him each time he enters the kennel during the training time. On all three of ours, that's how we housebroke them and their kennels were their beds. This may sound cruel, but they would whine and whine unless we placed a blanket/drape over the front of the kennels kinda like you place a cover over a birds cage when it's time to go nitey nite. They used their kennels as recently as one year ago...even with us having a doggie door. We didn't trust them at home alone to use it properly. Once they realized they were suppposed to "go outside to do their business" even when weren't home, then the kennels became a non-neccesity. They all sleep with us now. I know folks still use their kennels for their sweet one's bed, and that's fine. To this day if I were to bring the kennels into the house and instruct mine with a simple "kennel" they would all three enter their respective kennels. They won't soil their sleeping area either. On a rare occasion when they're sick and in it for an extended period, they might have an accident, but it's not purposeful cuz that's where they sleep!

Kinda lengthy, but I hope this all helps. The youngest, Buffy stayed in her kennel the longest. We would let the other two come to bed with us, but she had to sleep in her kennel until we were sure she wouldn't jump off our bed or soil it in the middle of the night. They're all doing very well now.

Kelly

Edited by: KR2165 at: 9/17/2009 (09:26)
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9/16/09 11:17 P

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Jane reminded me of something my vet told me when Boo was little, if he made a mistake in the house he told me to clean it with lemon juice & vinegar. The vinegar cleans it while the enzymes in lemon neutralize it even to his nose.

It really works to!

Edited by: DEBBEV at: 9/16/2009 (23:18)

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9/16/09 11:01 P

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Thanks for that tip AquaJane, we didn't do anything but wash it with paper towels and some spray cleaner and he did go back to the same spot 2 times. He's been ok yesterday and today. We're keeping an eye on him. He has access to the patio even when we're away, a doggie door, so we just can't figure this out. I've been making an extra fuss over him today, maybe he feels neglected. We were away a long time on Sunday, it was unexpected, thought we would return sooner. From some things people have said, maybe that was a trigger. I wish I was a dog whisperer. Thanks for sharing.
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AQUAJANE
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9/16/09 10:25 P

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Just checking that after the first poop, you thoroughly cleaned the area, including using an enzymatic odor remover. Otherwise, the area smells like a potty to the pooch. It's a useful mindset sometimes (there's a go-to public area I walk Tara when she hasn't pooped, which seems to work most every time), but darned annoying in instances like this. Ordinary cleaning products, from selzer water to vinegar even to detergents, aren't enough. The enzymatic products are available at every pet store (though check the label carefully). One used to be available at Wal-mart, though some in my area have switched to a major brand cleaning line with odor masking rather than enzymatic properties. That might be attractive to humans but doesn't fully do the job since canine noses are so much more sensitive than ours.



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9/16/09 1:56 P

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In most instances(tho there are exceptions) chicken & turkey (white meat) is O.K.

If Scooter is otherwise well house trained, the first thing that I would do, would to check with his vet. He/she will run blood tests to determine if the prob is physical & how to treat it.

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9/16/09 11:40 A

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Good point...maybe he is just sending a message that he wants something! And yeah, don't get him too accustomed to chicken. My little guy loves it, but I rarely give it to him (he is on a prescription diet).

Pet him, play with him, hug him!

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9/16/09 11:37 A

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Toji and Chiyo sometimes will poop in the house although they both go for frequent walks. We have come to the decision that they are looking for attention. My husband and I both work away from home and we have noticed a pattern that when we are overly tired and are not paying enough attention to the little ones, that's how they let us know. While you are walking Scooter quite often, are you playing with him enough? Is he getting lots of cuddle time? If you stop the chicken and give him lots of attention and he's still doing this, it may be time to check with the vet to make sure there's nothing physical going on. Good luck and let us know how things progress.


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ROSE251
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9/16/09 11:15 A

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The walking routine for Scooter is the same. As for his food, it's the same food and every once in awhile I might put in a few pieces of chicken breast. I've done that the last few days, I can't imagine that would do it but who knows. I don't give him many treats, 1-2 dog biscuits a day, once of those green things for his teeth a few times a week. I'm going to cut out the chicken, I always have some leftover as we eat alot of chicken, I'll hold off and see what happens. It's very frustrating, his walk in the am is 1.3 miles, and during the day totals another 1/2 mile, also before bed is another half mile. We're at least getting our exercise. I measure everything with the SP fitness map.
Thanks to all that respond.
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MITEJOE
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9/16/09 10:09 A

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Did you change his food? Is the walking routine new? Or any other changes to a 'normal' day for that matter?

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9/16/09 8:56 A

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I have no clue myself as the why of it.
You could try putting him in one area, say the kitchen and putting a gate in front of the entrance.
Sorry but I really don't know
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ROSE251
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9/15/09 11:40 P

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Scooter is a joy but he's coming up with a new problem and we don't know exactly what to do. We take him for walks 4-5 times a day. For the last few days he has been pooping in the house. WHY?? Should we rub his nose in it, we never catch him in the act. He does his AM poop outside but not always during the rest of the day. This has just started in the last 2-3 days. Nothing else has changed. Last night was the clincher, after his evening walk we went to bed and during the night I had to go to the bathroom. No need to tell you all what happened. GROSS. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. We've put off getting a cage, my husband doesn't like the idea of caging him but I think we have to.
Kathy

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