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MARY1313
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10/28/08 12:40 P

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Having been a breeder of beagles and also having a german shephard, I had to get really aggressive myself in letting them ALL know that I am the pack leader and not them. When the little one growls, a firm drill sgt. voice saying "NO WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT NO!" and the same with the bigger dogs. Also, for the first 3 or 4 months, don't let them chase things together. Because it is a competition right now. They have to learn that there is plenty of affection for all of them from you. If you have this game that you play with the little ones, wherein your husband acts like he is going to touch you and raider then growls, stop the game, because he is taking it seriously with others.

I think they will work things our with a little help from Mommy the boss! The big poodle is probably used to having to fight for food and anything else he got. It will take him a while to realize that this is not the way things are anymore.

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10/26/08 11:09 P

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Good advise from everyone. Raider snaps at Major everytime Major comes near me. He's very protective of me even though Major is just wanting to be loved on. I'm reprimanding Raider tho. Yesterday when that happened with the ball, they were fighting and Major actually had Raider in his mouth! It was frightening to say the least. We'll give them some more time as this is still an adjusting period I know! I can tell Major just wants to play with the smaller dogs, they're not accepting him yet. I hope they do as he seems to be accepting them, not the other way around.

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10/26/08 9:31 P

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Was Major playing or attacking? We have two cats and Lady a standard. The cats were here first. Lady has a different relationship with each cat. With Beauty, Lady chases and barks and the cat runs and hides but this is their regular nightly game and they both seem to enjoy it. With our older cat Lucky, Lady is very close. They sleep together and share beds. They also play and I've caught Lady grabbing Lucky in her mouth and dragging her across the hardwood floor. Clearly this doesn't hurt the cat because she allows the play but it does make me uncomfortable.

The other suggestion I'd make is to correct the behavior. Poodles are smart and if he learns what is wrong he may stop the behavior you don't like.

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Hi Kelly, Sorry to hear they are fighting. Usually that starts out with growelling first, but when play goes into attack, you always hate to see dog fights. Like the others have said here, Major is probably just trying to be dominate in the pack. Raider and Major will probably work things out, now each one knows what the other can and will do. They may just have figured each other out, and might not fight any more. But like you said you don't want your little guy to get hurt. Just keep your guard up, Major may just want to control the ball. My Silver, our only dog will play ball constantly for 45 minutes, only stopping once or twice, its his favorite thing to do. Maybe playing ball with them separately might help for a while, until they are really accustomed to each other. My best to you in this transition time for you all.
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10/26/08 3:30 A

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Hello Ladies and Poodles! The best advice our standard poodle breeder gave us when we bought our 5th poodle almost 2 years ago was, "Let Allegro (the older dog, age 10 at the time) be the teacher, she will teach him if you let her." Wow, understatement as we have learned by watching her train the puppy. When they play fetch, Allegro still has to remind Louie that she is the boss every so often by just putting her in his place with the growling. Fascinating, isn't it, to watch and learn from the animal world of training. I hope your dogs learn to be friends like my 2 dogs finally seem to be doing. Also, I make such a point to not favor the younger dog, they are so intuitive!



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10/26/08 2:00 A

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That is such a shame. We still have that problem with our dogs no matter what breed they are. They are trying to establish their place in the pack actually. just make sure you separate them when you are gone to make sure nothing happens. As they get older, it happens less and less. I actually keep the pecking order when I give treats also. Each one gets their treat in the order that they established. Since he is the big one, he will fight to be top dog. once he makes sure the little ones know this, he might try to push you also since you are a member of the pack. Just keep working with him and always be firm that he will never be above the humans.


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Major attacked Raider today. Raider ran after the big ball when I threw it and Major attacked him and bit him. I thought he was going to break him in half! My little poodles have NEVER been agressive towards other dogs and up until today Major had seemed gentle spirited. I'm afraid that if it happens again, we'll have to return him to the vets office because I don't want anything to happen to my little dogs and Major is just so big he could hurt them so easily.

I've heard that the standards can actually become agressive towards the little ones but didn't know how truthful that was. Has anyone ever heard of that? It would break my heart if anything bad were to happen to my little ones, yet we've already let this big one into our home and into our hearts.

Any advise?

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