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9/11/08 9:47 P

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Well, usually. My edema was first really noticeable when I was wearing a size 5 dress (I'm 5'3", so that was not too small for my frame, but was the smallest I've ever been). Hypertension was the diagnosis at the time, and the doctor put me on a pretty strong diuretic. that was not surprising to me because just about everyone on my dad's side of the family had hypertension. NOW, however, I've been diagnosed with sleep apnea. Just about the time my edema cropped up, my spouse noted that I was snoring (my grandmother, father, and aunt also snored). Had I known about sleep apnea then, I might have connected the two, as sleep apnea and hypertension - and weight gain, too - often are related. Obstructive sleep apnea might have been the underlying factor in both the hypertension and the (later) weight gain. However the snoring just wasn't taken very seriously back in the 70's when this started. Still, summertime weather really seems to make my edema worse. And drinking extra water does not "flush out" the problem: it just seems to make the edema worse. When I was young I rarely perspired, even though I was quite physically active. I think that's another genetic thing that's involved that science has yet to understand. We need much more investigation into the lymphatic system and its variables!

Today, in addition to a bike ride, I've cooked plain chicken breasts and plain green peas, so am keeping the sodium level down. The weather is much cooler this week. My rings have been easy to get off and on.

The bike ride the other day might have helped

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9/10/08 3:20 P

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Your naturopath is correct, less weight, less sodium, more exercise, more potassium intake(if you have healthy kidneys), adequate but not too high protein intake, and drinking adequate water all help edema.

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9/10/08 2:24 P

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I once saw a natureopathic doctor who told me that simply losing weight would alleviate my edema because with less downward pressure in my system, the water would more easily flow back up out of the legs and be processed as waste.

Since then my weight has fluctuated, but always the edema has gone down or away when my weight dropped and returned when my weight went up.

Currently I'm on a low-sodium diet and my edema is less than it would normally be at this weight. On the other hand, this is just a personal observation, your mileage may vary.

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9/7/08 1:59 P

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As noted by others on this post, I also note that higher sodium intake than my average really makes my ankles swell. I don't have heart disease or hypertension, but I do suffer thyroid disease and my mother is notoriously sodium sensitive. Exercise and sweating does not always help me. Does anyone have success with green tea or dandeloin tea as gentle diuretics? Other suggestions?

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9/6/08 9:09 P

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Unfortunately, that is a big problem with processed foods. emoticon
Good job on the bike ride!

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9/5/08 10:40 P

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Wow! I really ate a TON of sodium today. I ate two servings (one can) of Hormel Turkey Chili for lunch, and ended up with over 3000 mg of Na. I went for a bike ride this evening, and I'm hoping I lost some of it in sweat. My ankles aren't swollen yet. I'll see how my face and fingers are in the morning. I started thinking about a sad situation, and seemed to just have a craving for that chili.... It's quite low in fat for the protein you get, but WAY too much salt in it!!!

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9/4/08 11:31 P

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Participation as a study subject is a great contribution! Several years ago, I was a subject in a Tamoxifen study, based in Pittsburg, which showed that Tamoxifen helps prevent first breast cancers in patients who have an increased risk. Well-run scientific studies benefit everyone. Thank you for doing that!
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A year or so ago I read about a study that showed that slow breathing can alter the way our bodies process sodium. I haven't heard much about it since, but I'm convinced it probably can work. I think my edema and related hypertension all started about the same time as my sleep apnea - which is interrupted breathing while sleeping. I believe they're all interrelated, but I'm not sure scientists have studied it thoroughly. Now I try to remind myself a few times each day. Guess I should make that one of my Spark goals.
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9/2/08 7:06 A

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I'm in a study through the University of Pittsburgh that is exploring the correlation of sodium intake and vascular health. It is set up like Weight Watchers, in that we have group meetings, weigh-ins and diet advice. My calorie goal (and sodium goal) is 1300 per day. They did blood pressures, sonograms of my veins, etc. at the beginning of the study, at six months and will again this month for the year. They are also comparing us to a control group. This is a nationwide study, so once the data is in, if their hypothesis that a lower sodium diet increases the flexibility of the veins, I think we will see a lot of changes. The FDA will probably make mandates that foods be lower in sodium. This is already happening in England. emoticon

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9/1/08 11:00 P

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WOW! 24 pounds is something to brag about, that's for sure! I think we need lots more attention paid to lower sodium in foods, just like there are many low-fat or no-fat versions of foods in the stores. I'm not certain, though, of the best way to go about accomplishing that. Somehow the food industry latched onto the fat problem, but hasn't caught onto the sodium situation. I notice Healthy Choice has been listing sodium content on the front of some of their boxes, so that's one encouraging development.

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8/30/08 10:10 P

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I'm doing pretty well avoiding processed foods, which was a major goal of mine. I am really happy to see that usually when I fear I'm over in sodium for the day, once I track in the meal tracker I usually am within bounds.

Most of my weight loss has been due to the steps I'm taking to manage sodium. I really haven't been worrying about fat, cholesterol, carbs or calories at all and have taken off 24 lbs to date.

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8/26/08 1:41 P

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I did do my bike ride in the afternoon on Sunday. The weather was cooling down, and when it got down to around 75, I went out. I enjoyed riding for 2 miles on the nearby bike trail. Altogether my trip was a total of almost exactly 3 miles, but I had to walk for a block that was steeply uphill. I'm suspecting that, because I'm sweating a lot when I'm riding, my sodium and potassium levels might be lowered somewhat, so I drank some Propel fitness water. Yesterday I rode the bike to do a couple of nearby errands. I'm learning to watch for road hazards like potholes and pieces of glass, and to plan ahead when approaching intersections.

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It seemed so much easier when I was a kid!

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8/25/08 7:32 A

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Well, I survived the 22 mile bike ride. We had the most perfect day too! A funny thing happened when we went out to dinner afterwards. The place my friends chose was a smorgasbord, which nowadays I try to avoid any kind of buffet. I reluctantly went along, only to find that they raised their prices from what their website posted. Luckily, there were other options, and I was able to just order their soup and salad bar. I decided to try their chicken noodle soup, fully expecting to take one sip and push it away because it would be too salty, but surprisingly it wasn't. It was definitely homemade, and I had my confirmation that the sodium was low when one of my girlfriends said, "I can't eat this soup. There's no flavor!" Funny, but I thought it was delicious!

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8/23/08 5:00 P

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Still doing OK on my sodium intake for the day today. However, I didn't get out of here early enough to do my bike ride. By the time I left, it was up to 86 already, so instead of biking, I went to a Meijer superstore and walked in their air conditioning. Tomorrow's supposed to be cooler, but I have to produce the church bulletin in the morning, so maybe tomorrow evening. The mosquitoes have been bad, so I'll spray with repellent before I go.
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I know exactly what you mean about food tasting too salty! Once you get used to milder flavor and being able to really taste the food, it's very unpleasant to have all that salt in there.

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8/23/08 7:25 A

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There are so many things that I've switched over the last year to make my sodium intake lower, that I allow myself little splurges here and there. What I noticed, and you will too eventually, is that when I allow myself a salty food, I will end up eating less of it. This is because it will just taste too salty to me and won't be as appealing as it once was. I've actually been disappointed at the flavor of some of the things I once loved...but that's a good thing!

I'm going to go on a 22 mile bike ride with some friends today. I haven't been bike riding all summer, so I know I'll be sore tomorrow! I need to remember to stretch! lol

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8/22/08 11:41 P

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I've been watching that tropical storm Fay down there in Florida. One of my daughters lives at Gulf Breeze, FL, on the penninsula across Pensacola Bay, so I'm wondering how that storm will track.

We had a little thunderstorm here today (not nearly enough rain, though), and then it heated up, so I didn't ride my bike. My first day to ride was yesterday, so maybe I'll try to get out there tomorrow morning. It's supposed to be hot (88) by afternoon. My water weight was still good today, but I wasn't very good about sodium this evening (taco salad). emoticon

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8/21/08 6:28 P

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Summertime just makes water retention a much bigger problem for me. This morning, though, I rode my new bicycle to do my running around town, and when I got done, my ankles and fingers were nice and thin.

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8/20/08 5:10 P

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I definitely notice a weight difference if I eat too much sodium. I never really paid attention to the humidity and barometric pressure though. Hmmm... I'll have to pay more attention to that!

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8/20/08 4:12 P

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My weight just goes up or down 5 pounds in a day depending on my sodium and potassium intake levels, but also depending on the weather: temperature and humidity, and maybe the barometric pressure? Does anyone else have this problem?
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8/20/08 4:06 P

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Seems to me maybe we need a thread where we can just communicate with each other on a friendly basis about whatever's happening....
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