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TRACYB37's Photo TRACYB37 Posts: 222
10/1/08 10:20 A

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I think the most punk rock thing I do is blend when I need to, and stay true to who I am on the inside all the time.



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CRAZY.ME Posts: 9
9/14/08 11:16 A

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I realized that the "punk rock" lifestyle is often just a cover for a self-destructive lifestyle. I mean, I really loved it - the partying, the shows, the drinking, and hanging out until all hours of the night. But, when you think about it - when you conform to that sort of lifestyle - you're really just conforming either way. It sounds pretty stupid, but it took me some time to balance myself out to where I could say "Yeah, this is my lifestyle, but I don't want to shorten my life with bad habits."

We should ignore the "Shoulds." I "shouldn't care about my weight." "I should say f**k this." blah blah blah.

Eventually, you have to do what makes YOU happy. If not drinking will make you happy - then don't drink!! I used to smoke a pack of cigarettes every day and drink a bottle of vodka every other day. Now, I'm some nerd studying biology who does yoga every week.

Remember - being rebellious is doing WHAT WORKS FOR YOU regardless of your scene, subculture, or people. :o)

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MYNAMEISSMILE's Photo MYNAMEISSMILE SparkPoints: (59,952)
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9/3/08 8:23 P

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I love this discussion. Sometimes I like to rebel against all the healthy females at my work and eat like 5,000 calories in one day. What an accomplishment.
What? no..I'm working on getting back to being a hardcore runner...and maybe trying to rebel against the fat girl in me a little more.

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"Somewhere out there someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win."


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GONZO.SPIRAL's Photo GONZO.SPIRAL Posts: 29
8/30/08 2:03 A

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Remember that being punk is all about doing whatever the hell you want to do because you want to do it, and anyone who wants to be a snivelling little cockroach about it to you can just piss off. :D

Edited by: GONZO.SPIRAL at: 8/30/2008 (02:03)
Go, go, go, go, go, go, GO.

Every little ache and pain I suffer used to be cause for a panic attack, a trip to the doctor's, and three or so months of living like a recluse. Now, my fear of death is eclipsed by my loathing at the thought of living in fear. Everyone's gotta' go some time, and I'm going to make sure every second until I do is amazing.


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8/23/08 11:48 A

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I'm having the same problem... i usualy drink A LOT and i really don't want to be straight edge, lol. I don't touch drugs, i just drink and my friends really pressure me to drink. School is going to start and theres going to be mad parties. aaaghagahgah, help. Give up drinking completely? I've sort of been toying with the idea of just filling up an empty bottle of vodka with water and carrying that around. haha

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BABYPOP's Photo BABYPOP Posts: 825
2/21/08 10:09 P

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Liza - I try to set a few specific goals each month, and a specific reward, if I succeed. Usually, my reward has been something sort of practical - a haircut, a craigslist Mp3 player to use at the gym, etc. But now that I am making a goal to also save money like a fiend, I'm eating out a lot less and buying a lot less crap like music, clothes, etc, I will probably treat myself to things like that. Of course, considering all the junk I need to get rid of, maybe I need to do a reverse reward - every 10 lbs I lose, I have to get rid of 5 t shirts and 5 books!



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RUBBAMUFFIN's Photo RUBBAMUFFIN Posts: 181
2/20/08 6:33 P

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My hubby plays in 2 bands and I really thought going out to shows would be a problem. It seems I can work though it with no problems. I manages my calories in the day if I have to go out to a show and usually only have 1 or 2 drinks now. Sticking to stuff like Vodka & Soda w/fresh lime. The problem is they go down like water so, I have to watch it! I figure if I really want this, and I do, I will MAKE it work for me!!
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2/19/08 10:46 P

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how you feel about your looks is what really matters most. it's not about conforming to one side or the other, it's about choice. that's why we fell in love with this lifestyle, it gave us the freedom to choose and didn't tell us who to be or how to feel. if i choose to have blonde hair or wear makeup or loose weight it's not conforming to anyone's idea of beauty but my own. that's f'n rock n' roll.


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2/19/08 2:22 P

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My husband and I have always been big into the scene-he was in a hardcore band for 13 years. That's how we came to know each other. Our first bond was being the only 2 in the joint who ordered a shot of Jack with a Jack back! We've slowly been fading out of the scene both to save money and to lose weight. We realized that when we went OUT to the bar, we inevitably spent too much on booze and were lazy about what we would eat for dinner (i.e. carry-out).
Here's what changes we have made in recent months:
We signed up for an unlimited Rhapsody account (it's like an online jukebox where you can listen to anything you want)
We bought a Jamlab (USB guitar amp with drum tracks)
We bought an electronic dart board
We buy 1.75 liters of our favorite liquors.
Then we just party at home and cook ourselves healthy meals and snacks while we're at it.
People tend to call our apartment "O'Hayflea's Pub" and it's just like going out without the temptations of tater tots and cigs!

As far as working the booze into my weight loss goals; I count points (wt watchers) so I tend to save my 35 Flex points for booze. With the average cocktail costing me 2 points, that leaves me a leeway of 17 drinks a week-- if I need it.

Edited by: HAYFLEA at: 2/19/2008 (16:16)
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2/18/08 3:06 P

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I have to say, this is definitely a problem that I have encountered. I've always had an "I don't care what people think" attitude regarding my looks...but that doesn't mean I don't strive to look a certain way. Going to shows can also be tricky...the alcohol and smoke, the staying up late, etc. I've been struggling with trying to "reward" myself for my weight loss without breaking rules that will effect my weight loss - like going out for a drink or whatever.
How do people here reward themselves? So far I've come up with getting a new cd or new tattoo when I lose a certain amount of weight....but not much else comes to mind (at least nothing healthy).

If you can't be a good example, you'll just need to be a horrible warning.


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1/16/08 11:32 A

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I DEFINATELY find this a problem!

Another thing is that there is a great deal of connotations when buying sports gear as well.

I have a friend who is naturally slim and it was a real struggle being around her when we would go out to punk gigs. I just didn't feel like I was comfortable.

You're right about the beer aswell. Now I have IBS so I can't even drink beer without gettin stomach cramps. I am also in a band and it's so easy to drink all the time...especially to lose nerves before we go on stage.

I think being a punk/alt teaches you to be strong and independant...and you have to know that whatever you choose...it's your choice. If someone tries to push you into drinking when you think you would be better off not doing...you've gotta remember that punks are rebels and don't follow the crowd...so surely you're a more true to punk than anyone else!


It''s only when you have let go of everything that you are free to do anything.


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11/9/07 10:19 A

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That's a good idea, Atomeve. I know if you brew your own, this is probably sacrelige, but NA beer has a lot fewer calories as regular, so you could always alternate.



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11/8/07 3:04 P

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The alcohols is an issue. Not only do I enjoy havign a drink at shows, or out with friends, but I brew my own beer as well, which means ther is always a lot of good home brew around the house.

I can't say I've got the solution down yet, but whenever I get a ticket to a show, or know I'm heading to the bar on the weekend, I put a few drinks into my menu planner, even weeks in advance, so I don't go over earlier in the day. A beer or a glass of good wine is almost always in my calorie counter at teh end of the day. BUT JUST ONE!

I also try and remind myself I'm there for the music and friends. I'll also go with cash and leave the card so I don't open up a tab. At the end of the show, when you've got to decide between another drink or supporting the band you just loved by grabbing some merch, the answer is easy. Plus you save money!



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11/3/07 11:41 P

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hmmm...i tend to run w/ the straight edge punks (no drugs/alcohol). plus i loved sports in high school and had a dysfunctional upbringing that led to eating disorders. so, i am on the opposite end of the spectrum. my music helps me cope w/ the negativity and energizes me to care enough to work out despite the severe depression.

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11/3/07 9:58 P

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I totally agree with the idea that living the rock lifestyle does often suggest rebellion against the "norm".

I too am a victim to the pitfalls of alcohol and I know it stems from 2 different places. 1st: The Rock Lifestyle and 2nd Work. We all know how the rock lifestyle can get to us, but personally, the combination of that along with my job adds to the whole drinking issue.

For example, my office has Happy Hour every Friday where they provide the alcohol and snacks. Its so hard not to take a beer or two because the bosses are often passing them around left and right. It is also hard knowing that the one thing that you need to cut out of your diet to lose weight is a main source of socializing in the workplace. I know that if a consultant or a client throws a party that there will be alcohol flowing and it is often seen as rude to not accept such an invitation from a business standpoint.

Events like these on top of my constant concert schedule are screwing up my dieting and I know that. I have been trying to lessen the alcohol intake when going out as well as at work. I try to remind myself that part of the reason I am here today is because of the long nights of partying at both work and with friends along with those early morning runs to DENNYS. So if I cut that out then I will be better off healthwise.

Besides I also have a cliche, vanity reason for wanting to do this too. I want to become thinner so I can look good in a swimsuit next summer and so I can get my next tatto on either on my thigh or ribcage.

I have a friend who is an amazing seamstress and I would loooove for her to make me a su it for next summer. I can't take advantage of her services if I can't fit into the outfit.

The tattoo is another minor vanity moment.. But it is also a prize for accomplishing my goal.. a new tattoo to celebrate a new body emoticon

It's not enough to have lived. We should be determined to live for something.
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SKINNYONSTAGE's Photo SKINNYONSTAGE Posts: 22
11/3/07 12:43 A

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What a great topic. Three of my "blockages" to losing weight are loving my rock lifestyle as a musician and fan of live shows, that sense of rebellion that I shouldn't care about being thinner because that's something all those preppy college girls obsess about, and also the feminist in me that tells me I shouldn't let cultural ideals shape my self image.
And how is it that so many girls I know that party and drink all the time are so thin?!

But yeah, the alcohol needs to be seriously cut back if I want to loose the weight. I'm congratulating myself for drinking very little or none when I go out. It's great for the waistline, the wallet and not waking up with a hangover is fantastic.

Also, I remind myself that being thinner is just as important to my health as it is to my appearance. And, I don't have to talk about it with anybody. If people notice I can just say thanks and drop it.

It's also totally acceptable to want to look better!

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11/2/07 7:15 A

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Hmm, you bring up a valid point, LLA.

I'm pushing 30 so I don't really drink that much any more anyway, but I do know it was my lifestyle when I was younger (college and after when I was in bands) where I'd drink a lot and just not give a crap. I know that's when I started packing on the lbs. big time.

For me, the biggest, I guess, philosophical issue, has to do with reconciling body image (being fat-positive) and my feminism with wanting to lose weight and look good/be skinny. I know ultimately I just want to be in better shape and feel good physically and mentally, but part of it is conforming to 'conventional' standards of beauty, too, I guess.



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11/2/07 2:17 A

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I am feeling that at the moment no one is really addressing the specific problems of being a punk rock fan and trying to lose weight. I feel there is a massive conflict of interest with trying to lose weight when you are a naturally rebelious person. I dont know if its the same in America but in the UK rock music is very much associated with rebellious behaviour such as drinking alcohol, doing drugs and generally not caring how other people feel about what you do. Now if I was actually into drugs I wouldnt be here as in the main drug users are thin, but as for the alcohol it really is a major element in our music tastes and I know that for me my rebellious side makes it hard to lose weight. I would love to hear how other people deal with these sides of themselves, when they seem to have such different interests. I want to lose weight but it seems near impossible to do when drinking so at the moment most of my weight loss is just based in exercise and depriving myself of calories for most of the week so I can drink occasionally.

 
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