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8/29/07 10:20 P

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Deb,

I'm not currently trying to go completely meat free. I would like to find myself having fish or maybe chicken about once a week or so and MAYBE red meat once a month or so. Kind of Mediterrainean style. I have to admit that after I had about five days in a row of no meat, it felt kind of wierd at the first meal that had meat in it.

As for the Pizza crust, I don't have a recipe, but I think if you add some wheat gluten (not sure on the spelling), it will lighten it up a little and make it a little less chewy.

I just read a good article here tonight on 'The Vegetarian Way' --- that talked about substituting legumes, etc. for meat to go meatless. I'm trying to do that some, but there is a definite decrease in flavor when the meat is not there.

I did have some luck with spaghetti sauce and my son and his wife even liked it a lot. Instead of meat, I took a back of frozen vegetables (broccoli, cauliflower, and carrots) and chopped (pureed) them in the food processor, and mixed in the sauce. No one missed the meat. Now if I can find ways to do that in other meals. emoticon

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8/29/07 9:38 P

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Dee,

I don't consider myself vegetarian but several years ago, I decided to cut back on greasy foods, cholesterol, saturated fat and naturally went meatless (stir frys, soups, vegs w/rice, bean salads, vegetarian chili/spaghetti etc) which forced me to look for new ways to cook using beans, grains, fresh produce and to bake without eggs, dairy and oil. On occassion, I"ll use a product that includes dairy or eggs but I try not to.

I've heard about the "fake" meats that actually look just like real chicken, beef and shrimp and you just warm it up or add it to your recipes, haven't tried them, but I've seen them used in recipes.

I've tried those veggie deli meat slices (salami and bologna) during my transition to meatless and they're pretty good for a substitute. Don't eat them anymore but I keep boca burgers in the freezer for those times I want something close to a burger without the cholesterol and satur. fat.

Haven't tried quinoa, though I've seen it in stores. If anyone has a good pizza crust recipe that uses whole wheat flour...give it up, please. Mine uses half white and whole wheat flour, is tough and chewy, but taste quite good but I'm looking for something that won't break my jaws...lol


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8/29/07 7:32 P

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Thanks Deb,

I've Googled Vegetarian and the like many times and found many recipes. It's a challenge to choose one (and sometimes to recognize all the ingredients.) -- I"m really bad at finding the time sometimes too.

One of my problems ... and the reason I don't go Vegan, is I'd LIKE to keep it all natural and whole -- to the best extent I can. I've LOOKED at the health food section at Krogers at the 'vegetable meats' -- then backed off from buying them b/c it seems like just another processed food.

I do have some 'recipe pieces' (or something like that) which is soy that is supposed to taste like chicken -- that I got from a food pantyr overflow give-a-way at church.

We only really have about 1.5 Health food stores in the area. Both about 20+ minutes away in opposite directions. One is MOSTLY supplements, and the other is a grocer ("Naturally Yours") but still seems to have a rather limited selection.

In fact, I was going to ask about the Quinoa. I did discover I had some on hand - remembered I'd bought it to try a granola recipe (which I never did). I had a hard time finding it, the clerk had to help me, and then all we found was this 'Quinoa Flakes' ("for ceral and much more!" according to the label)- which I bet is not exactly what you all were talking about.

WOW! The more time I spend here, the more I realize I DON'T know !!! emoticon

Dee

"All things can be done for the one who believes." Mark 9:23

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MS.SPWALKER Posts: 101
8/29/07 6:09 P

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Dee, you are so right! When I decided to go meatless and cook healthier, I was lost. I googled vegetarian and found a local vegetarian society in my state that sponsored a tv program and tuned into their cooking demonstrations. Also found a local meatless cooking tv program that visited vegetarian restaurants or eating establishments that offered meatless entrees in my state, which made it easier to make the transition.

My health food store also offered store tours so I signed up. They explained what their products were, offered me taste samples and simple tips to put a few things together to make a meal to get me started. They also have a buffet with meatless dishes and I always try something different for the flavors and textures. It's fun, interesting and a good learning experience.

I'm still learning...believe me. But time and money is a factor so I tend to stick with things I've tried and liked, unless I hear good things about a recipe, then I'll make a point to try it.

One thing that's helped me when I first started was taking a basic family recipe that everyone liked and change it slightly and don't say anything.

For example chili...I substituted the ground beef with textured vegetable protein. It looks and feels like ground beef and it absorbs all the spices/flavors of the chili sauce. Did the same thing with spaghetti sauce.

For me, the main challenge wasn't going meatless or eating whole foods, but learning about the new spices and different foods out there and how to use them. That's where the cooking demonstrations, store tour and trying out the different dishes at the health food store helped.

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8/29/07 3:40 P

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Since I'm new to whole foods, I have plenty of 'old basics' to fall back on. The challenge is to find a way to prepare whole foods that is healthy and tasteful so that we all will like them.

I'm probably more open to new things than my hubby or my 23 y/o daughter who lives with us, but even I've not been to happy with some of the stuff I've cooked. I really need to learn how to season things better or something.

Dee

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8/29/07 9:56 A

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i think a lot of this is trial and error. i make food and my kids don't like it. so i've had to find some basics that we all like. i still slip back into hamburger helper and mac and cheese every so often. they're usually meals that i fall back on when i'm short on time. also, hamburger helper is great with textured vegetable protein. yum! i think maybe a lunch box thread would be helpful. i have a copy of "vegan lunch box", but i'd still like some other ideas for my daughter's lunches. she has asked for cheese sandwiches for the past two days. that makes things a little easier for me!

also, i know we're focusing more on eating whole foods, but would anyone like any weight loss threads? like a biggest loser challenge with teams or something similar?

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8/28/07 10:11 P

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I love soups -- and got on a soup kick a couple years ago. Ended up having to freeze a lot and eat most of it myself. LOL

Same with the 'healthy' foods. I end up feeling guilty (selfish) after two or three nights in a row where everyone's appetites seem a bit tiny -- and an hour after dinner, they're raiding the kitchen for bowls of cereal, etc. emoticon And *blush* I have to admit -- on some of those nights, I've found the food pretty bland too.

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“Even if you are on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there.” --Will Rogers
MS.SPWALKER Posts: 101
8/28/07 8:31 P

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Dee, I know what you mean. Hubby's welcome to eat what I make (meatless meals)...but half of the time, he'll pass and make something else...lol Last night, he took out the leftover lentil soup and warmed it up for dinner. I watched him go back for seconds but I pretended not to notice, although inside I was saying thank you God.

The thing about the lentil soup is that it's not beany tasting...more like a hearty veg soup. I think that's why he likes it.

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8/28/07 10:32 A

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Deb,

Thanks. That's the one that was in the email. I'll have to give it a try. I'm hoping that if I do the recipes well enough, maybe hubby will develope a taste for some of the healthier stuff.
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"All things can be done for the one who believes." Mark 9:23

“Even if you are on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there.” --Will Rogers
MS.SPWALKER Posts: 101
8/27/07 8:50 P

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Dee,

There's 2 Lentil soups at Spark's recipes. The one I've made several times and love, is the Lentil Vegetable Soup with the tomatoes, onions, celery and carrots. Sometimes I'll substitute the veg broth with unchicken broth which is just as good.

The other recipe is Lentil soup...basically lentils, water and flour to thicken. Haven't tried that.

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8/27/07 12:01 P

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I like Kashi GoLean. And I just printed out the Lentil soup recipe - it was in my e-mail.

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8/25/07 6:24 A

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Try adding just a touch of balsamic vinegar to the end product. You'll be amazed at how good it is!

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MS.SPWALKER Posts: 101
8/24/07 9:34 P

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51 now!

It'd be nice to have a thread on tips. I'm always looking for healthy tasty recipes or product that someone actually tried.

I like the Lentil Veg Soup that's at spark recipes. I omitted the vinegar and doubled the recipe to last the week and it's really good with brown rice.

Another one of my favorites is Kashi's Go Lean Crunch cereal made with 7 whole grains(190 cals per cup, 3 gms fat, 95 sodium, 8 fiber, 13 sugar and 9 protein). I eat it with a little almond milk and it's a nice break from oatmeal and so crunchy and chewy.

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8/23/07 9:56 A

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I love tried and true recipes --- ones someone actually prepared and ate:)

Whole grain ideas are always a plus since I use them in my home.

Sites and such supporting whole food eating and diets.

Also, I have been on the whole foods paths for years now and I still LOVED the idea DEEANN8 posted! Sharing helpful whole food cooking tips, how-to, and time savers. Things like that are awesome.




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DEEANN8's Photo DEEANN8 Posts: 5,123
8/23/07 8:40 A

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I'm really new to 'whole foods' and could use a lot of guidance with meal ideas for the family. Not just recipes, but with tips. Seasoning ideas and food prep ideas, etc.

Maybe a 'Did you know?' thread where established whole fooders could post tips.

For example ... a tip I got from Lybbe..... Did you know ... you can cut the time it takes to cook rice to about 15 minutes by boiling it rapidly in a large amount of water,then draining it.

I also got a tip from another SP member that gave me about 3 ideas for seasonings ... curry good on rice, garlic good on anything, and a couple others I can't remember off the top of my head.

Anyway, Thanks for asking Flo. I'm really looking forward to some increased activity here .. and all that I will learn from it.

Edited by: DEEANN8 at: 8/23/2007 (08:41)
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8/23/07 5:45 A

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Flo - it's great to see a leader willing to put so much effort into a team! I believe there are a lot more people interested in whole food now than there were even a couple of years ago. So many people suffer from food-related allergies - if only the medical profession in general would start realizing that!!

Meal plans would probably be a great help to some folk - not necessarily recipes, but a day's food consumption.

There are lots of exercise teams on Spark, but a thread for posted daily movement can never be a bad thing - especially when it involves people you're getting to know.

Thanks so much for doing this - I think you have the beginnings of a very vibrant community going here!

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8/23/07 2:38 A

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When I started this team, about seven months ago, I never would have imagined this response.

I knew that I had not found a team on SparkPeople that was supportive of my dietary goals. I hoped that I might find a few others, and that we could encourage one another, and maybe offer accurate information to others willing to consider this way of eating.

I feel prompted to ask again a question I asked early on: What are you looking for from this team? What would help you stay the course?

One thing that seems to come up from time to time is meal plans. What else?

When I've participated on other online sites in support of this way of eating threads along the lines of "What's cooking?" have been very popular. Members go online and post either their dinner plans or their intended food for the day. Those threads did not make a big difference for me, but if some of you would find them helpful, I could make it a point to start them each day. (Or evening...I'm in the Pacific time zone. By the time I get up some of you have already eaten lunch.)

There was similar support for "Who's moving?" threads. Basically, members posted their activity for the day: walking, swimming, strength training, etc.

What would make this a place that makes a difference in your ability to achieve your goals?

Thanks!
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