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11/6/15 10:48 A

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I wonder how this court case turned out. I know I'm not willing to take anything like Phentermine that isn't from a doctor and a reliable maker. The biggest problem with most diet drugs has been the people who take way more than the prescribed amount. Follow the doctor's orders.

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10/7/08 8:27 P

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From the Department of Justice about Fastin's makers:

Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals & 11 Indiciduals Indicted for "Generic" Pill Fraud Scheme
Defendants Allegedly Sold Millions of Pills Over the Internet

ATLANTA - Eleven individuals and an Atlanta-based company have been indicted by a federal grand jury on multiple felony charges relating to a scheme to sell adulterated and unapproved new drugs over the Internet. Four of the defendants are scheduled to appear at a bond hearing before U.S. Magistrate Linda Walker at 1:45 P.M. EDT.

"The indictment’s allegations are disturbing because customers thought they were getting legitimate and safe prescription drugs over the Internet from Canada at cheaper prices, when in reality they received adulterated fakes that were crudely made in an unsanitary house in Belize," said U.S. Attorney David E. Nahmias.

The defendants named in the indictment are Jared Robert Wheat, 34, of Alpharetta, Ga.; David Dalton Johnson, 37, of Pinehurst, N.C.; David Alan Brady, 40, of Pinehurst, N.C.; Stephen Douglas Smith, 38, of Duluth, Ga.; Thomas Holda, 43, of Duluth, Ga.; Sergio Ronaldo Oliveira, 46, of Hoschton, Ga.; Brad Neal Watkins, 38, of Birmingham, Ala.; David Watkins, 40, of Norcross, Ga.; Steven Blinder, 42, of Aberdeen, S.D.; Michelle Young, 38, a citizen of Belize; Guillermo Pech, 28, also a citizen of Belize; and Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals, a company based in Norcross, Ga.

All of the defendants are charged with two different conspiracies: (1) conspiring to import controlled substances into the U.S.; and (2) conspiring to violate the wire and mail fraud statute and to introduce into interstate commerce adulterated and misbranded prescription drugs. The indictment charges each of the defendants, except David Watkins, Brad Watkins and Steven Blinder, with different substantive violations including mail fraud, distribution of controlled substances and introducing adulterated and misbranded new drugs. The indictment also charges the lead defendant, Jared Wheat, with engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise. The indictment seeks to forfeit numerous properties, automobiles and bank accounts, and seeks a money judgment of not less than $19.8 million.

According to the indictment, Jared Wheat, the principal owner of Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals, and the other defendants opened a drug manufacturing facility in Belize in approximately 2002. The defendants allegedly used Hi-Tech funds and Jared Wheat’s own funds to cover the costs of operating the Hi-Tech facility in Belize, and would travel to Belize to manufacture various prescription and controlled substances. The defendants allegedly made approximately 24 different drugs that they marketed through so-called "spam" advertisements over the Internet as authentic generic versions of those drugs being imported from Canada. The drugs included steroids such as "Oxymethelone" and "Stanazolol," along with unapproved versions of controlled drugs such as "Ambien," "Valium," and "Xanax." The defendants also manufactured versions of prescription drugs such as "Viagra," "Cialis," "Lipitor" and "Vioxx." From 2002 through 2004, the defendants allegedly ordered enough active ingredients to manufacture millions of pills, many of which were then shipped into the United States to individuals who purchased the drugs after receiving Internet "spam" and also to various wholesalers of drugs.

Members of the public are reminded that the indictment only contains charges. The defendants are presumed innocent of the charges and it will be the government's burden to prove each defendant's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt at trial.

This case is being investigated by Special Agents of the DEA and the Food and Drug Administration’s Office of Criminal Investigations, with the Henry County Police Department. Valuable assistance has been provided by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF), the Customs and Border Protection Foreign Mail Facility in Miami, the Postal Inspection Service, Doraville Police Department, Roswell Police Department, City of Atlanta Police Department, Spalding County Sheriff's Office, Cobb County Sheriff's Office, Clarkston Police Department, East Point Police Department and the Duluth Police Department.

Assistant U.S. Attorneys Aaron M. Danzig, Randy S. Chartash and J. Russell Phillips are prosecuting the case.

Members of the public are reminded that the indictment only contains charges. The defendants are presumed innocent of the charges and it will be the government's burden to prove each defendant's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt at trial.

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10/7/08 6:40 P

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My mother in law was looking to but fastin online (although I suggested that might not be a good idea) and she ended up ordering some. She said she hated it! She said that she felt more hungry than she ever did before and that she spent most of the weekend in the bathroom.
I don't know exactly what she got or the dosage that she had. I don't think I would order meds online like that. I have heard too many stories about people getting something different from what they thought.

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10/7/08 5:35 P

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I don't know exactly what the answer is, but I know this: Fastin is NOT Phentermine. Fastin's main ingredient, so to speak, is caffeine, while Phen has an actual narcotic-type drug that is not available OTC. Believe me, if it was just a generic form of Phen, I would buy it in a heartbeat!

Leslie is our resident expert on FAstin, so let her try and answer better! LOL


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10/7/08 4:33 P

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OK - I'm confused ...

I thought Fastin and Phentermine were the same thing. Fastin being the brand name for generic Phentermine. Both only available through a prescription.

I just googled "GNC Fastin" and now I'm even more confused ...

Apparently there are two products available...

1) Fastin (Phentermine) from a pharmacy

2) Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Fastin™ (Beta-Methyl Phenylethylamine) from GNC. I think Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals advertising is pretty deceptive.

Anyone try both (not at the same time) and a have an opinion or comparison?

Leslie: "I just took some today, and I am not sluggish anymore. It helps with energy and appetite."... Would you say Beta-Methyl Phenylethylamine works as well as Phentermine?


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10/7/08 3:07 P

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I have heard of Fastin but have never tried it and I do not know of anyone who is using it..It it works let me know

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10/7/08 11:53 A

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I use 1-1/2 tablets in the morning and 1 around 2:00. It works great, but you will probably need to stop drinking caffeine. It has caffeine in it. But I recommend it if you are not on any prescription for weight loss. I just took some today, and I am not sluggish anymore. It helps with energy and appetite.

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10/7/08 11:48 A

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Leslie from this group says it works well, but I haven't tried it yet. I think $70 a month is a LOT.

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10/7/08 11:26 A

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Hey Guys!! One of my girlfriends purchased Fastin from GNC and was wondering how it works, so I told her I would ask around here and see if anyone has used it and what results they got. Any information will be helpful that I can relay back to her. Thank you!!

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