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BELLE!'s Photo BELLE! Posts: 16,607
10/17/07 9:43 A

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Yes it is a daily process as none of us where born yesterday and alot of us came into this world with negtive energy,SO it is all about each day and be proud to say i banished another negtive today an I was able to share the secert in the way I did not let the usual reaction come out it was replace with a positive as I stop it before it happen.That in it self shows alot of folks there is something better about u and they want to see and know more.

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10/14/07 3:22 P

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Privateeye, I think even the most advance practitioner has to work on keeping negative thoughts at bay. Keep an eye on the positive thoughts. Blessings on your life's journey.



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10/14/07 12:23 P

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Hi everyone!
I'm just catching up and it is no coincidence that most of us read the same stuff. The Celestine Prophecy, Wayne Dyer, Debbie Ford, etc. etc. etc.
Thanks, this topic is about who we teach (I sat and watched the movie with my daughter and grand daughter) and you've all taught me something just by reading your comments.
I feel that if I "mention" and "offer the movie" to everybody they'll adopt it when they're ready.
I am trying very hard to practice it and have to constantly catch myself and banish the negative thoughts.
Thanks everyone.

We only live once, but once is enough if we do it right!!!


 
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BELLE!'s Photo BELLE! Posts: 16,607
10/12/07 10:27 A

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Thanks.

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10/12/07 10:02 A

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Very good point Belle, people do want to know what our "secret" is! We lead by example...

The universe tells you:
"YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND"


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BELLE!'s Photo BELLE! Posts: 16,607
10/11/07 10:09 A

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No Tami, I do not think u did.As we all know some folks take this and make it into some get rich scheme.Which we know it is not it is about more than material things.And u can have all the material mess in the world but your real life be crap.It does make life easier but it does not guarantee u what matters most real happiness and PEACE of MIND!
I think those of us that follow the secret do share it in all we do with out at times knowing cause it is a part of us and we are being more relaxed and more able to cope with things we struggled with before.Those that know us Notice that and want us to share how,we do it.That is part of it as well is practicing what u know and learned so others learn from your actions.

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10/9/07 10:13 P

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Oh, I agree. I didn't mean to imply that the only way to use the secret is for material gains. I just see that a lot of people became interested in it for that and the marketers marketed for that. The truth is that the prinicals work in all areas and are fantastic. I also believe that it is ok to use it for materialistic things-i'm not into the vow of poverty. I just don't like to see the materialistic as the primary thing. But again, I love the idea that something got it to the masses.

tami

"If you're going through hell, keep going"--Winston Churchill
Be not afraid of going slowly, be afraid of standing still. --Chinese proverb
Even the darkest hour only has 60 minutes--Morris Mandel
Sometimes a door opens and a human being becomes a way for grace to come through. Rumi


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JEWITCH's Photo JEWITCH Posts: 18,857
10/9/07 9:19 P

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I have a bunch of teenagers that come over to my place for tutoring in the late afternoon. One day they came over when I was watching the 'The Secret'. They asked if they could watch it with me. After that a couple of the kids that are struggling in school asked me to help them apply 'The Secret' to their class work. So we setup a plan and they started working on it. They are finding that they are have success with the classes. To me I think there is many ways to use 'The Secret' besides trying for material gains.




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10/9/07 7:34 P

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The secret wa a nice affirmation of things I had learned previously. And i'm glad it brought it mainstream. Dr. Wayne Dyer is probably still my favorite teacher on LOA, although, he never really called it that.

I think it is great to get these messages out in a variety of ways because then more and more people can learn and benefit. The secret movie was intentional geared towards materialism because it was designed to "sell". it was a brilliant title and marketing campaign and it did get people involved who would not have previously been involved. It is my hope though that people explore the depths of the message and use the movie as a beginning.

I am amazed as I sit back and observe what is becoming popular beliefs in the world. It is exciting to me. It makes me feel like the celestine prophecy is coming true.

tami

"If you're going through hell, keep going"--Winston Churchill
Be not afraid of going slowly, be afraid of standing still. --Chinese proverb
Even the darkest hour only has 60 minutes--Morris Mandel
Sometimes a door opens and a human being becomes a way for grace to come through. Rumi


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BELLE!'s Photo BELLE! Posts: 16,607
10/9/07 11:01 A

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So True alot time we need to see it or hear it somewhere else to really get it and do it.

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10/9/07 10:09 A

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I always said that The Secret doesn't say anything I didn't know before...
BUT it is said in such a powerful way, it really pushes the message through.

Be not forgetful to entertain strangers...therefore have some entertained angels unawares...

Whether you think you can't do it, or of think you can, either way you are right. (H. Ford)


 
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10/8/07 10:00 P

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Peony I have read that the movie purposely stressed materialism as they thought the message would be more universally accepted.

I happen to love the messages from Abraham told through Esther Hicks, Wayne Dyer, Jack Canfield and years ago Tony Robbins, Og Mandino books and even Norman Vicent Peale. One of my favorite books was Shad Helmstetter what to say when you talk to yourself about positive affirmations, etc.

It definitely makes life easier and happier to focus on the positives rather than the negative. I guess my point is the information contained in the secret is not new and just repackaged and expressed in a slightly different way than many others beforehand. Napolean Hill, Wattles, etc. have all been credited with inspiring it. The main way the Secret itself has benefitted me is the reminder of how we think and phrase things definitely shapes our reality.

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A cheerful heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit makes one sick.
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BELLE!'s Photo BELLE! Posts: 16,607
10/8/07 7:51 P

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So very true as I posted in the thought of the day it is "Rome was not built in a day."
It also applies to this chat.

-John Clarke (1596-1658)

I've always heard this quote, and never knew who said it, so I was happy to come across it this time around. How appropriate! In this fast-paced society we tend to expect instant gratification. How often do you hear people complain about how slow their computers are, or their dial-up, or the pizza guy? And all that spills over into our expectations for ourselves. We want that great job NOW, that dream relationship NOW, enlightenment NOW! But we have to remember that there is always divine timing involved. The seed needs time to sprout, the sprout needs time to grow. We are like that sprout that needs to keep pushing up the dirt, keep reaching toward the sun. We're growing every day.

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10/8/07 7:36 P

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I think it is great to use this principal in your work. I think if you are living by it, you will naturally share it by the living example even if you don't "teach".

I agree with not liking the emphasis on "materialism" that is in the movie. However, I realize that the real principals behind the secret and that have been taught for centuries go far beyond materialism. If someone tries to use it just for materialism and aren't in true alignment, i don't know how effective it will be for them. Not that material things are bad in an of themselves. Like Oprah says, money isn't everything but it is nice.

I figure that for myself I benefit in any way that I can implement the principals. And when I can't, it just points to an area of growth should I want to pursue the growth.

I am all for having people take responsibility for their lives and stop taking the victim role. that has been a wonderful life lesson for me. And at the same time, i realize that thre might be some times that it is appropriate to "indulge" the "victim" role for a brief period of time. I don't know really how to explain it but i see people using positive thinking and law of attraction as a way of totally avoiding any "negative" feelings. And I believe that it is important to deal with those feelings rather than sweep them under the rug. That isn't to say that you have to drown in the feelings.

What is that old saying??? There is a time for happiness, a time for tears.... (something like that).

Tami

"If you're going through hell, keep going"--Winston Churchill
Be not afraid of going slowly, be afraid of standing still. --Chinese proverb
Even the darkest hour only has 60 minutes--Morris Mandel
Sometimes a door opens and a human being becomes a way for grace to come through. Rumi


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10/8/07 3:50 P

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I have never seen the movie, but have read the book and others in the same vein, like the Hicks' "Law of Attraction," Joe Vitale's "The Attractor Factor," and so on. I have offered to share my books with others, but I don't think they're quite ready.

The advice I give is always based on the ideas behind these books, though, and when I talk about my life and my experiences it's always from that point of view. (Well, most always...sometimes you just want to VENT.)

I know I am helping my partner, although I avoid "coaching" him, because I don't want to fall into a whole teacher-student dynamic. But he has seen these principles work for me, and is working to be more positive and take control of his life :D

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10/8/07 1:07 P

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If you listen carefully, it is not only materialism. They use money as an example, because it is pretty much measurable, but what James Ray said about Harmonic Wealth??? If one is rich, but their personal relationship stinks, that is NOT wealth. Just as not wealth if one is spiritually rich, but their health is down...
They do put som emphasis on relationships and health, and the world's affairs too.

Be not forgetful to entertain strangers...therefore have some entertained angels unawares...

Whether you think you can't do it, or of think you can, either way you are right. (H. Ford)


 
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I'm the odd one but I personally LOVE the message contained in the secret but abhore the materialism of it. It really is wisdom of the ages that many before have espoused in terms I relate to much better. I share other authors and books and hope I lead by example.

Personally I loved Down the Rabbit Hole or whatever it is caused. When the scientist showed how water molecules were changed by the messages displayed on their storage containers that just gave me chills.

It's great that you can share in your work. It's amazing how that perception from victim to empowerment can change someone's life.

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A cheerful heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit makes one sick.
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10/5/07 10:08 A

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Great to hear we are passing it around! My mom was the one who first showed it to me!

The universe tells you:
"YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND"


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10/4/07 2:59 P

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I got it from a good friend of mine (actually my boss, not direct boss though), when we were talking about my life/problems and he gave the DVD to me with "Well this will probably help you"
I added subs and made a lot of copies and gave them to my friends I thought would understand.
I gave it to my brother and of course my father. For the three of us it was like..."well they don1t say anything we didn't know before, but sure the DVD is so powerful it really pushes the messages through...

Be not forgetful to entertain strangers...therefore have some entertained angels unawares...

Whether you think you can't do it, or of think you can, either way you are right. (H. Ford)


 
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What a great idea. It is nice to share 'The Secret'.



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BELLE!'s Photo BELLE! Posts: 16,607
10/4/07 10:09 A

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Great Topic, I have not really thought as much about it as I should but then when I seen Your post I was like wow I do it with everyone that comes to me for guidance as I am also in the line of calling.It is amazing how I can pull something that I have read here or int he book and apply it to them and help them and usually I don't say this is the way the secret does it as so many folks are unsure of it or not sure what it is and then later on I will say u know u should check out the secert after they are like wow how did u know that is what I should do.I do hope others will think on it and share all the ways that use the secert to help in ways they don't even realize as well.Sounds like u ahve done some great work with your clients with it as well.thanks again.

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I am a substance abuse counselor who works with a lot of people on probation, in halfways houses, and who are felons.
I have found that having them watch "The Secret," followed by discussion, has been a great tool in helping them overcome "victim" and "stuck" attitudes and positions.
We can then refer back to key concepts learned from "The Secret" during future groups; just the other day, when a member commented, "It always seems to go wrong for me..." another member piped in, "And it always will, as long as you put that out there into the universe!"
Great stuff, and I am just wondering if anyone else out there has experiences with sharing "The Secret" as well?

The universe tells you:
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