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I lost 10 pounds during the month of June following "The Plan" but then things stalled and I've gained back 2 pounds. I have learned a lot about the food I'm eating and how they affect me. I have gotten much better about drinking water. I think the biggest progress I've made so far is being able to tell when a particular food is bad for me. For example yesterday I had a chocolate covered banana and within about half an hour I was feeling irritable. I've tried chocolate a couple of times this month and both times I had a reaction so I have to admit I need to stay away from chocolate if I want to feel well.

Happy journey everyone. If you are like me this is more than just losing weight. Its about not being depressed and sick and being able to enjoy the people I love.

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I'm having this issue as well of not being able to lose weight as quickly as someone with a thyroid (I had my removed because of cancer almost a decade ago). Rather than looking at it from one angle, I'm taking a three-pronged approach. I'm working with a personal trainer, made some discoveries about emotional eating so I'm seeing a therapist about that, and in a couple of weeks I'm going to see a nutritionist. I've lost inches, but it doesn't reflect with my weight particularly. It's like three months to lose one pound.

It's extremely frustrating, but having a good support system definitely helps. When I'm at the gym, I try really hard not to compare myself to other people. I don't know if I work harder than they do or not. I'm not in their skin and they're not in mine.

As to heart rate, I've been told that the higher your heart rate the more calories you're burning. For an accurate read of what you're burning when working out, a heart rate monitor is going to probably give you the best result. I'll plug in my workout somewhere, here or on a different sight and it'll tell me that I burned through 1000 calories or more when in reality it's probably around 500-600 depending on what I'm doing.

I wish it was easy and I hope all of you find solutions that work for you.

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6/28/13 8:09 A

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I don't get sleepy on vitamin d, I take 2000 iu in the morning and at night.




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6/7/13 9:12 A

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Hi,
Maybe you could try some form of intermittent fasting ? It's cheap, easy and according to some studies even healthy. If you diet the ususal way i.e. cutting calories or food groups for a long period of time, your body will adapt to that regime. If you fast for 24 hrs, once or twice a week you're body won't feel it necessary to adapt because you eat 'normal' the other days.

It's the only thing that has worked for me (in 10 years). If you want more information you can check out the sites of Dr. Michael Mosley (BBC medical journalist) www.thefastdiet.co.uk or Brad Pilon www.EatStopEat.com

And regarding working out, I have always wondered about the fitness heart rate recommondations : if you want to lose weight you have to limit your HR during exercises to a certain percentage and I really had to be careful not to overdo it. So if I did a Zumba class I was way over the HR meaning I didn't lose any weight ? Probably so because I actually didn't lose any weight working out ... ! Any one know what you're supposed to do ?

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My doctor had to cut me back on vitamin D because I was getting really bad headaches. Strange, but when he did they stopped. I was taking 5000 ius so he dropped me down some. Haven't had one for a while now they were way different than a migraine so I knew something was up.

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I think a lot of people have food allergies and they don't even know it. Definitely a valid point.
It's not always something that is easy to trace. For me, I can't have a lot of dairy and I know bread makes me sick. Even just being around it. The other day I was grocery shopping with my family and we went to the bread aisle and I had to get out of there! I think that an issue for a lot of people is that they cannot necessarily afford to eliminate everything that makes them ill out their diets. A lot of people would say that it's an excuse but we all have to realize everyone has different income levels. If you are able to cut or eliminate that stuff out your diet, I definitely would. When I significantly limited wheat, I felt *A LOT* better but I did not lose any weight. I also wonder how many people have other medical conditions that mimic Hypothyroidism but aren't diagnosed because the symptoms are too similar. A lot of doctors think if they uncovered one diagnoses, that's the answer but who is to say it can't be several issues?

I hope we can all figure out what works for us and feel our best again. :)

Good luck! :)

I don't get sleepy when I take vitamin D but i do notice taking vitamin B and D helps. so maybe try adding some vitamin B.








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5/26/13 9:50 P

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I just bought "Why do I Still Have Thyroid Symptoms When My Lab Tests are Normal?" By Datis Kharrazian. Has anyone read it? He says people who's labs are in the "normal" range but are still not feeling well have food allergies, hypoglycemia, etc. He says many people diagnosed as hypothyroid are actually suffering from one of these other causes. I know I have sensitivities to gluten. But what comes first? Anyway, I know I need to stay away from gluten so I will try to stay away from it for six months because he says it can take that long.

My story is I was 40 when I was first diagnosed as hypothyroid after many years of working nights and raising a family. I was cold, tired and gaining weight. I was prescribed synthetic Levothyroxin but really didn't feel much better and gained another 10 pounds. Over the years I gained another 30 pounds for a total of more than 50 pounds and have mild depression and anxiety most of the time. I was better for the 2 years I was on Prozac but I didn't feel like I should stay on Prozac forever. Looking back I wonder if it was Adrenal fatigue.

If I take 5000 IU of Vitamin D I get sleepy. Does this happen to anyone else?


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Mzz, I have basically taken grains and white carbs out of my
diet except when I allow myself a few cheat days.
Since February, I have lost almost 4 kg -slowly but steadily
and staying off. Another 200 grams today. I was almost 90 kg
in October and am now 81.8. I am really wrapped. Gives me
motivation to keep going on this lifestyle change. Must mention
that in March I also changed my meds from 100mg of Oroxine
to 75mg. I had been on 100 for years. Staying positive and not
giving up is also a big plus.

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I agree. Everyone has to find out what works for them. It gets under my skin when people say.."well, I have those conditions and can lose weight, so you should be able to as well."

Well, that is pure ignorance. That would work if we all had the exact same type of body but that is not the case. Our body chemistry is different and we will all react differently to different things. Yes, you can have the exact same conditions as me but you don't have my body so don't tell me what my body "should" be able to do.

I feel good taking Armour but someone else may feel awful. Just because someone else is able to lose weight more easily doesn't necessarily mean they are putting in more effort and hard work either.

I know all of us who posted here are trying our hardest and trying to figure out what works best for us. It is frustrating but all I can say is keep trying and putting forth your best effort because it's all any of us can really do. It does make me feel a little better knowing that a lot of people feel the same way I do & I am not the only one. If I find something that is helpful, I will post it.

Thanks for sharing everyone. :)








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5/21/13 4:34 P

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Well, not going to argue with the scale, I am down 2 lb. emoticon
I haven't eliminated GF pasta or quinoa or rice. I may consider reducing.
We travel a fair bit and eating out being GF.....I had to add fish and seafood to my plan of eating because it became too difficult. ( I was a vegetarian for 24.5 years)
I will consider reducing starch and grain., thanks👏

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Anyone or anything -- whether it's a board-certified endocrinologist, an integrative MD, chiropractor, vitamin store clerk, herbalist, a patient advocate, a Twitter feed, a book, a blog, a webinar, a celebrity, a magazine article, the "Latest Thyroid Cure" video or ebook, or even your best friend - claiming to have one diagnostic approach, one proven answer, one amazing solution, one cure, one supplement, one miracle diet, one diet plan, one food, or one medication that works for everyone is, simply, wrong. Because when it comes to thyroid disease, one size does not fit all.
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Mzz I did look up fiber and hypothyroid and found a few things that backs what you are saying. Just a few questions for ya:
1. I have high cholesterol too so increased fiber to lower my numbers should I stop taking a fiber supplement?
2. I eat low carb (eliminating simple carbs as much as possible) so loads of veggies is this ok?
3. If the fiber is interferring with your medicine wouldn't your levels be reported as high? My tsh is around 1.2 last time i had my blood work done. So a good range.
4. I also lift weights so try not to let the scale rule me, try to determine my progress on inches rather than pounds. Weight training will make a person more muscular and therefore they will weigh more. But can you explain the supplement you said we should take if we are weight training?
Hope I didn't overwhelm you. LOL


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I do all of that , no constipation... and mary S.. the thyroid expert says to get fiber in... I try for 25 grams ?? but doc says take fiber caps with gall bladder out



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Have you guys cut all grains and starches from your diet?

If not, I'd give that a try.

Another thought is to make sure you're getting the RDA or iodine and selenium.
Even when you are optimized on thyroid hormone, you need these two. Iodine for general health and breast, salivary glands, lungs. Selenium for peripheral conversion of T4 to T3 and to make glutathione peroxidase, a powerful antioxidant.

Other supps that might help is cod liver oil for its A and D, a multi-B vitamin taken in two divided doses, C. Zinc is important as well as copper.

Those who are weightlifting, trying to build muscle, try l-leucine and whey after a workout.

Anyone with constipation... try magnesium citrate, taurinate, malate... drink more water, and take a probiotic. I highly recommend milk kefir and Tibicos (water kefir), its easy to grow at home.

Throwing fiber into the mix is not a good idea for people who are hypothyroid. It sits in the gut and ferments.

I'd try cooking on a cast iron pan to increase your iron. Peeps who are having problems regulating their iron, it usually means you have absorption issues. Best thing for that is bone broth. Check my blogs for how to make it... also look in members comments, cuz they generally have some great contributions to make.

Gotta run... have a fun evening ya'll.
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I have not lost any weight in the last 15 months. In fact I have gained almost 13 pounds. I have had my TSH checked as well as my T3s and T4s, In fact all my tests have come back over that time period (they are checked every 3 months) and everything seems fine. If my thryoid numbers changed much more I would be moving into the hyper department because they are that good and have remained so for the last 6 months. At my last visit to my doctor (last week) I shared my frustration with her. We went over my diet and my fitness routines and based on that information I should be losing weight, even a bit at a time rather than struggling to not gain anything. My daily food calorie consumption is good for the amount of exercising I am doing and the calories burned - I use a heart rate monitor to more accurately determine my calorie burn. I have tried everything low fat, low carb, supplements, etc and nothing is changing. We have now decided to look into what else it could be. The next thing we are going to be checking for is Syndrome X also known as Metabolic Syndrome. She is going to contact one of our area Internists, share all the information I gave her and we will move forward from there. I am not really sure what Metabolic Syndrome is so I need to start educating myself on this.

It can be - no it is - extremely frustrating and spirit-breaking at times. I keep telling myself that the only indicator of my success is not the number on the scale. It is so much more. It is how I feel, how my clothes feel, how I carry myself, how my medical tests are, etc. It is just hard to remember these other measures at the time we stand on the scale and see disappointment in the number that flashes back at us. We are more than that number and I for one, refuse to be defined by that number. I guess what I am trying to say is don't let the frustration take over your journey.

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5/19/13 10:44 A

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I'm having the same, no wgt loss despite eating within my calorie range and exercising.
I have decided that I will be a stubborn mule and not give up on myself.
I'm not gaining....( ;.
I'm going to keep reading, keep looking for answers and attempt to remain positive. emoticon

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I hear ya! A few years ago I tried the Lindora diet and had great success but over a period of a few years I gained the weight back plus another 10. Now if I try that diet I get really constipated. So I think I am ready to try another experiment but this time I'm adding Vega One. (you can find it at Sprouts). As you can tell from the name this is plant based but has no soy. 15g protein and only 11g of carbohydrates. I've used this for a few weeks and my digestion does improve when I use it. So now comes the test. Will it keep me from having constipation if I use it on the Lindora diet?. I don't use any of the Lindora products because the last time I checked they used soy protein and they are expensive. If this works for me I'll let you all know.

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I have the same problem !!!!! and hate it - other can drop weight doing what I am doing but I do not - I did atkins fat fast and never hit ketosis.. the doc I saw said she losses on atkins.. sooooo... I do not are you calling me a liar ????? I did HCG as posted on about.com thyroid thread and the 1st round worked the 2nd round I gained back all if it in 2 weeks.. 10 pounds...
will waiting longer and try again it was the only thing I could do to loose.... 700 cals and 50 carbs I lost 1/2 - 1 pound a week....... and don't give me the crap of starving - bypass people have to stay below 1,000 cals a day and are on 200 for the first few weeks... my cousin died from it- so I am not having it - 2 other people did ok- my close friend is having it done monday - upset but wish her well... nothing she has done worked..
so I understand your frustration and sympathize ... but have not answers- be nice if some one did !!!!!



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My iron is not good. I am Anemic and taking treatment for that. I appreciate the response and I do have more to look into. I do want to say (respectfully) that everyone's body is different and their bodies will react differently to the same conditions. Hypothyroidism and PCOS could be the culprits but before that is determined, I do have other things to rule out. I appreciate all of the things you listed because it gives more of an idea what to look for and what to ask my doctors about.

All I know is that I didn't have as many issues before Hypothyroidism. I have had PCOS for years and always managed to lose weight with it. I also stay away from wheat as well because it makes me ill. I have had my cortisol tested 3 times and it was normal twice and low once. The other numbers, I don't have all of the numbers on hand at this moment but I know they weren't bad.








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Purr you don't take armour anymore?

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When you say your numbers are good what are they? Have they tested Free T4 and Free T3? ON armour that is the only thing that matters really. Also, on armour itself I don't do well, they reformulated awhile back and changed out dextrose for microcrystalline fiber. Fiber isn't good...it binds to thyroid. On acella brand NP thyroid...some of us do better. Have you also got your cortisol in line? What are your B12 levels, D levels? Calcium? Magnesium? Iron? There is more to this picture than just thyroid and PCOS. I deal with both as well and now menopause on top of it. Get the answers to these and we can look more into things!

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My thyroid level is excellent & I am now being treated for the Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome.
I began working out toward the end of March and this month, I almost have 1,000 fitness minutes in but my weight will NOT budge. I make wise choices with what I eat and I don't know what else to do.

Before I was diagnosed with Hypothyroidism and PCOS, I weighed 218 lbs. That was after losing 30 lbs so I was overweight but okay with my weight at the moment. Then Hypothyroidism invaded my life and during the time I wasn't diagnosed, I gained 60+ lbs!!!
It was not from overreating. I even had a spark coach try to tell me it was and she said I would have had to be eating 3,000+ every day BUT I WAS NOT. I know what happened. I live in my body. Doctors say Hypo causes a modest, 20 lb weight gain but that is a LIE! The weight gain is only modest if doctors find hypothyroidism in a decent amount if time. The longer someone goes undiagnosed, the fatter they will get!! When I gained weight, I called my doctor immediately. Of course, she thought I was just stuffing my face but now that's not the point anymore.
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I feel so much better and doing more so why won't any of the weight come off???
I want it off! I am working my tail off to get it off but nothing! I know the exercise is good for my overall health but I want to look better too! This is too much weight for me. I go up and down and I never though I would be this big. My weight is sitting at 277-279 lbs and it is very upsetting. The doctors tell me to lose weight. Wow, I haven't thought off that! That is exactly what I am trying to do.

There are people with the same conditions and on top of it other things and they can lose weight. I have been on this site longer than a lot of people and then someone signs up and in 6 months, they are down 40 lbs! I can't even lose 5 lbs in 3 months. I just stay the same. Stay the same. Stay the same. I am not going to be happy with my weight until it is back to where it was before Hypo!

I hate to admit it but it's hard working out with my sister and seeing results. She has already lost 10-15 lbs and I do 2x the work. I workout 3x as hard and I eat 2x as healthy.
I don't mean to feel jealous but it just makes me want to burst out in tears!!

People are on this site to lose weight. Not to stay the same weight. A lot of people recommend special diets but it's not an option for me because I can't afford. People say you can you afford to not get healthy? Well, I am not making an excuse. If I had the $ to buy certain things, I would. I do the BEST I CAN with what I have and it's not like I am sitting here eating fast food and drinking a bunch of soda!

Please don't tell me you have lost 50 + lbs so I can do it too. Different people. Different bodies. I take Armour and I feel good but NOTHING is helping me with weight loss.

I am frustrated and don't know what else to do!!!! I work hard just like everyone else and I want to see a payoff too! I want to see it in my physical appearance. It's nice that it's good for my organs and preventing disease but lets face it....most of us want to lose weight to improve our appearance along with our health.

I am afraid of gaining more weight even with taking these healthy measures and I am afraid my sister is going to get thin and I will be stuck and fat land forever!




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